Chio winning money race against Bonaventure in LV Justice Court race. [Nevada Current]
Judge Susan Johnson granted an injunction barring search of German’s devices. [RJ]
Prosecutors say no case was submitted after councilwoman’s assault claim. [RJ]
Competency hearing ordered for man accused of stabbings near UNLV. [News3LV]
Preliminary hearing for Henry Ruggs delayed again. [RJ]
Raiders’ Davante Adams charged with misdemeanor assault in Kansas City following Monday Night Football incident. [8NewsNow; RJ]
Federal judge ends lobbying suit against Steve Wynn. [Las Vegas Sun]
A July bar taker tweeted @Nevadabar asking why the code/seat number he was given on first day of bar doesn’t match what was on his results. [@CregVanEtten]
The 24th Annual Craig P. Kenny Party is on Friday, October 14, 2022, from 5-10 p.m. You’re invited and can view the invite here.
I propose a PPV wrestling match to settle this Seaman v. Fiore thing. Just the two of them in the ring, kook vs. kook. I'd pay to watch that. Proceeds will go into a purse that will be awarded the winner, thereby saving the taxpayers a ton of dough.
Took years to issue a divorce decree/findings of fact after a trial, and in the meantime she lied to the parties that the orders were almost ready. She admitted to the allegations.
Read the actual agreement that she signed off on, and particularly the lengthy list of mitigating factors, which are also incorporated in the plea agreement, or whatever it is. The parties were a mess and responsible for a good portion of the delay, but she should have been more assertive.
Hopefully this means that Natine Cutter will also be publicly reprimanded (again! I think a third time). Trial in January and no decision as of October. Now she's out on maternity leave. Parties will never be divorced.
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October 12, 2022 7:15 pm
I want to know the outcome of the bar number discrepancy. I hope he tweets what happened.
I do not know all the details (yet I will opine anyways) – the bar is graded on a "double-blind" numbering system… Test takers are given one number that corresponds to their seat (ultimately, this number is useless except in the event of reconstructing where someone was sitting in the testing room). When the exams are sent off to be graded, the tests are reassigned a separate number which the test taker is never told (until after the test, of course). This way an applicant couldn't influence a grader to "watch out for #86's essays and give them a couple extra points". I imagine Mr. CregVanEtten is seeing the double-blind number on his score sheet, rather than his seat number.
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October 12, 2022 8:31 pm
Probate Q: Clerk's Notice set hearing date for First and Final Accounting into the middle of …..wait for it…..February 2023! Uncontested, summary administration.
I looked at requesting District Court assignment, but J. Sturman appears to no longer be hearing probate matters. Does another judge have the assignment? (No, its not posted on the Probate Department's web page).
Yes, probate hearings are 4 months out. Judge Sturman is still one of the judges handling probate cases but you can't bump an uncontested probate matter to the judge. Sorry but you just have to it wait until February.
As of about a month ago, I think they finally were allowing real estate sales to go to the supervising judge for each particular probate, putting these sale hearings about 4-5 weeks ago from filing, which is a minor relief
Probate matters are assigned to Judge Sturman. However, probate matters will not be bumped up to her department until after a request is made and only after the original date of the hearing in probate court. If your matter is uncontested, you unfortunately need to wait.
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October 12, 2022 8:41 pm
Avvo is pitching a marketing plan to me. Is Avvo worth the $?. Do potential client's actually go to the Avvo web site?
I wish I had time to explain but generally no, it depends what type of law you do, what your other mkt/adv is, be careful friend, ask yourself how many people have mentioned AVVO to you in the past, IMHO (generally, not always) AVVO is made for lawyer friends to see how well you are doing haha instead of acquiring new clients
Why would any attorney ever want to pay good money to advertise in a space that is shared by thousands and thousands of other attorneys? Imagine being offered a parcel of land, on a five mile section of highway, to own and operate a McDonalds franchise. The entire highway is wall-to-wall built out with nothing but other McDonalds, Wendy's, Subway and Fatburger. No person would ever do that, so why would you advertise on avvo? It's a total scam.
Just an FYI – attorney marketing is well studied and there are many resources, the typical path is that people ask friends for references or their other attorney, then they Google, then they look for reviews and the website, if all is well they get a consultation, if your typical path of how they find you deviates then adjust, the trick is to make sure you have this path locked down – I am no expert but have a family member who is a practice development manager for a medium sized firm and this is what I get from many beer-drinking bbqs over the years, once again if you put in the time there are many resources but steer clear of all those "package deals" that the "experts" will offer you, you can do this
My recommendation is to build relationships with attorneys outside your practice area and be accessible to your current clients. I have more work than I know what to do with and it is 100% referral based. Most clients are shocked to even get me on the phone because they're so used to talking to assistants instead of attorneys. That alone gets me referrals. If you don't know how to meet attorneys outside your area, rent an office from one. Tons of attorneys have office space for rent. Avvo sucks. Don't give those vampires money.
3:02 is right. Additionally, a good blog will communicate your knowledge, communication style and give prospects/referrals a chance to get to know you before they call. AND, a blog post every week (best) or two (acceptable) will keep your blog at or near the top of a google search.
Damn, I just signed a marketing plan with them last month. I’m a solo practitioner and needed to do something to get some clients in the door. I don’t think it was a good choice in hindsight after reading these. I think it’s a one year contract too. Ugh
Sorry. Avvo's best days are very much in the past. They sold out to a major corporation maybe three years back, all downhill since. Except their marketing dept., alive and well and call no matter how much you say no. If you are new and insist to spend money getting leads, you can literally buy leads (4legalleads.com etc). Sure to be a better value than Avvo. Whole books can and are written on the subject of starting your own firm.
We can debate the effectiveness of various electronic and on-line attorney advertising, but one thing is for sure–the most prevalent attorney advertising method of 20 years ago or so, that being the yellow pages, is now essentially worthless.
If we take our time machine back to the early 2000's and earlier, well over 90% of attorneys could not afford any major television advertising buys, and could not afford any billboard advertising, etc.
Thus, unless the attorney was confident that they had a steady referral base, they usually had a regular yellow page ad–either a quarter page, half page, or whole page. Whole page was like $1,200. or $1,500. per month, meaning that even this form of advertising was quite expensive, but still nothing when compared to television advertising.
And this was the manual, book-form yellow pages-not the on line yellow pages which is available today.
Now, I recently noticed, somewhat to my surprise, that book form, physical yellow pages are still being printed–at least for particular regents or subdivisions of town(e.g. North West yellow pages, South East yellow pages, etc.
Problem is that I believe most people who still use the physical form yellow pages directory are retried people. But I don't mean 65-year-old retired people, most of whom are passable as to computer skills. I am talking about retirees in their 80's and beyond. Now people in that advanced age group certainly need attorneys, but if one's advertising market is essentially limited to advanced age retired demographic, is it cost-efficient to still advertise in book form yellow pages?
I guess there are situations where it might be, such as attorneys who practice Elder Law, etc.
True. I don't think yellow page ads are nearly as viable for attorneys as they were 20 or so years ago.
But as to your premise that such attorney advertising in yellow pages may be totally worthless and is a money pit, I guess it depends on the circumstances.
You kind of start off with thee premise it is totally worthless , but then you indicate that it might be worth doing depending on what types of clients one is attempting to attract.
On that point, yes most users of the manual yellow pages tend to be older, and that is often a good target group depending on an attorney's circumstances and field of practice.
Also, because this type of advertising, even if not obsolete, is much more limited, and far less used, than years earlier, it may very well be more-affordable. Perhaps it is not like it used to be, like when you reference $1,000. or $1,200. per month for a full page ad, which are accurate numbers as I remember what some colleagues were paying back in the 90's.
The single best way to get clients is to form relationships with other professionals who will refer them to you. For instance, what estate planning clients, you need to build relationships with CPA's, real estate agents, etc. They will not only send you people, but those people will be automatic clients because the person who sent them is already trusted by them and so they will trust you. That is the best way. Want PI cases? Form relationships with Drs.
FIRST! TTHHWWAACCKK! #FreeSteveWynn
I propose a PPV wrestling match to settle this Seaman v. Fiore thing. Just the two of them in the ring, kook vs. kook. I'd pay to watch that. Proceeds will go into a purse that will be awarded the winner, thereby saving the taxpayers a ton of dough.
Could probably get UFC to host it at the Apex.
Doubt you'd fill up T-mobile for that fight lol
In thongs!
Friday Night Smackdown
I am pro-Seaman in the litigation but in the Octagon? Fiore is that special kind of crazy that you just never fight with.
Former Justice Nancy Saitta publicly reprimanded, NVSC case 85101
For those of us at lunch listening to our wife bitch about grocery prices can u give us a summary
Took years to issue a divorce decree/findings of fact after a trial, and in the meantime she lied to the parties that the orders were almost ready. She admitted to the allegations.
Read the actual agreement that she signed off on, and particularly the lengthy list of mitigating factors, which are also incorporated in the plea agreement, or whatever it is. The parties were a mess and responsible for a good portion of the delay, but she should have been more assertive.
I only had to read as far as she presided over the Ansell case and then that was all that I needed to know.
Hopefully this means that Natine Cutter will also be publicly reprimanded (again! I think a third time). Trial in January and no decision as of October. Now she's out on maternity leave. Parties will never be divorced.
I want to know the outcome of the bar number discrepancy. I hope he tweets what happened.
That is disconcerting to say the least.
I do not know all the details (yet I will opine anyways) – the bar is graded on a "double-blind" numbering system… Test takers are given one number that corresponds to their seat (ultimately, this number is useless except in the event of reconstructing where someone was sitting in the testing room). When the exams are sent off to be graded, the tests are reassigned a separate number which the test taker is never told (until after the test, of course). This way an applicant couldn't influence a grader to "watch out for #86's essays and give them a couple extra points". I imagine Mr. CregVanEtten is seeing the double-blind number on his score sheet, rather than his seat number.
Probate Q: Clerk's Notice set hearing date for First and Final Accounting into the middle of …..wait for it…..February 2023! Uncontested, summary administration.
I looked at requesting District Court assignment, but J. Sturman appears to no longer be hearing probate matters. Does another judge have the assignment? (No, its not posted on the Probate Department's web page).
Probate cases were divided between 26, 5 and 8 I believe.
Yes, probate hearings are 4 months out. Judge Sturman is still one of the judges handling probate cases but you can't bump an uncontested probate matter to the judge. Sorry but you just have to it wait until February.
As of about a month ago, I think they finally were allowing real estate sales to go to the supervising judge for each particular probate, putting these sale hearings about 4-5 weeks ago from filing, which is a minor relief
Probate matters are assigned to Judge Sturman. However, probate matters will not be bumped up to her department until after a request is made and only after the original date of the hearing in probate court. If your matter is uncontested, you unfortunately need to wait.
Avvo is pitching a marketing plan to me. Is Avvo worth the $?. Do potential client's actually go to the Avvo web site?
I wish I had time to explain but generally no, it depends what type of law you do, what your other mkt/adv is, be careful friend, ask yourself how many people have mentioned AVVO to you in the past, IMHO (generally, not always) AVVO is made for lawyer friends to see how well you are doing haha instead of acquiring new clients
It depends. Which practice areas are you looking to build?
@1:58
Looking to build Estate Planning and tax controversies
Why would any attorney ever want to pay good money to advertise in a space that is shared by thousands and thousands of other attorneys? Imagine being offered a parcel of land, on a five mile section of highway, to own and operate a McDonalds franchise. The entire highway is wall-to-wall built out with nothing but other McDonalds, Wendy's, Subway and Fatburger. No person would ever do that, so why would you advertise on avvo? It's a total scam.
Just an FYI – attorney marketing is well studied and there are many resources, the typical path is that people ask friends for references or their other attorney, then they Google, then they look for reviews and the website, if all is well they get a consultation, if your typical path of how they find you deviates then adjust, the trick is to make sure you have this path locked down – I am no expert but have a family member who is a practice development manager for a medium sized firm and this is what I get from many beer-drinking bbqs over the years, once again if you put in the time there are many resources but steer clear of all those "package deals" that the "experts" will offer you, you can do this
My recommendation is to build relationships with attorneys outside your practice area and be accessible to your current clients. I have more work than I know what to do with and it is 100% referral based. Most clients are shocked to even get me on the phone because they're so used to talking to assistants instead of attorneys. That alone gets me referrals. If you don't know how to meet attorneys outside your area, rent an office from one. Tons of attorneys have office space for rent. Avvo sucks. Don't give those vampires money.
AVVO is a scam, but if you get a letter from Who's Who, then send them money.
3:02 is right. Additionally, a good blog will communicate your knowledge, communication style and give prospects/referrals a chance to get to know you before they call. AND, a blog post every week (best) or two (acceptable) will keep your blog at or near the top of a google search.
Damn, I just signed a marketing plan with them last month. I’m a solo practitioner and needed to do something to get some clients in the door. I don’t think it was a good choice in hindsight after reading these. I think it’s a one year contract too. Ugh
Sorry. Avvo's best days are very much in the past. They sold out to a major corporation maybe three years back, all downhill since. Except their marketing dept., alive and well and call no matter how much you say no. If you are new and insist to spend money getting leads, you can literally buy leads (4legalleads.com etc). Sure to be a better value than Avvo. Whole books can and are written on the subject of starting your own firm.
We can debate the effectiveness of various electronic and on-line attorney advertising, but one thing is for sure–the most prevalent attorney advertising method of 20 years ago or so, that being the yellow pages, is now essentially worthless.
If we take our time machine back to the early 2000's and earlier, well over 90% of attorneys could not afford any major television advertising buys, and could not afford any billboard advertising, etc.
Thus, unless the attorney was confident that they had a steady referral base, they usually had a regular yellow page ad–either a quarter page, half page, or whole page. Whole page was like $1,200. or $1,500. per month, meaning that even this form of advertising was quite expensive, but still nothing when compared to television advertising.
And this was the manual, book-form yellow pages-not the on line yellow pages which is available today.
Now, I recently noticed, somewhat to my surprise, that book form, physical yellow pages are still being printed–at least for particular regents or subdivisions of town(e.g. North West yellow pages, South East yellow pages, etc.
Problem is that I believe most people who still use the physical form yellow pages directory are retried people. But I don't mean 65-year-old retired people, most of whom are passable as to computer skills. I am talking about retirees in their 80's and beyond. Now people in that advanced age group certainly need attorneys, but if one's advertising market is essentially limited to advanced age retired demographic, is it cost-efficient to still advertise in book form yellow pages?
I guess there are situations where it might be, such as attorneys who practice Elder Law, etc.
True. I don't think yellow page ads are nearly as viable for attorneys as they were 20 or so years ago.
But as to your premise that such attorney advertising in yellow pages may be totally worthless and is a money pit, I guess it depends on the circumstances.
You kind of start off with thee premise it is totally worthless , but then you indicate that it might be worth doing depending on what types of clients one is attempting to attract.
On that point, yes most users of the manual yellow pages tend to be older, and that is often a good target group depending on an attorney's circumstances and field of practice.
Also, because this type of advertising, even if not obsolete, is much more limited, and far less used, than years earlier, it may very well be more-affordable. Perhaps it is not like it used to be, like when you reference $1,000. or $1,200. per month for a full page ad, which are accurate numbers as I remember what some colleagues were paying back in the 90's.
The single best way to get clients is to form relationships with other professionals who will refer them to you. For instance, what estate planning clients, you need to build relationships with CPA's, real estate agents, etc. They will not only send you people, but those people will be automatic clients because the person who sent them is already trusted by them and so they will trust you. That is the best way. Want PI cases? Form relationships with Drs.