Why would be do that? What does he owe Judd and the others?
I mean I get trying to protect his wife. But, in all seriousness, I think that the timing of this letter is important. If it was a year ago, alot has happened since then. It it was recently, it might be legit.
Said it before and will say it again (to the people who said I was crazy last week and did not know of which I spoke). Those that said that Beasley was rolling against Judd have it backwards. Judd is and has been cooperating with authorities.
The insistence that the attorney in the scheme is some stinking genius "playing chess while others are playing checkers" is as bad to those that keep insisting that Telles has the District Attorney right where he wants him. Sometimes a thief can be a thief without it necessarily having to involve and take down everyone who ever knew him.
I get the idea of protecting his wife, but why the loyalty to Judd? Judd is not a lawyer, but in that he was seeing the whole elephant in terms of the breadth and scope of this (whereas others may have only been experiencing bits and pieces of it), it should have been obvious that something was not right. Wasn't he (or one of his underlings) the one who was so adamant that "investors" not seek to directly contact anyone involved with these supposed cases? Even if it wasn't, the red flags were everywhere.
Maybe (just maybe) Judd did not know anything. Who said Judd saw the whole elephant? Whereas other might have seen feet, Judd might have seen feet, torso and tail. Those lines between (a) knew; (b) should have known and (c) could have discovered upon reasonable investigation is a very murky one. I dont know Beasley or Judd. I dont go to their church or have any insight other than the well-known fact that financial frauds often correspondingly cluster with religious communities. I know the points reported by the media and the points being discussed second hand through people who claim to have knowledge. But lets leave open the possibility that Judd was just as snowed as the rest of them.
I know Judd personally and have done for well over 30 years. He is a smart guy. Zero chance that he didn't know. Maybe not the depth of the specifics, but he definitely had to know the broad brush strokes of the scheme.
Also zero chance that he doesn't do time along with Beasley. IMO.
"Think about how many financially savvy people lost money to Madoff."
Exactly. We humans tend to grossly overestimate our ability to avoid falling victim to something like this. There were many savvy business people who fell for this. I have a good friend among them.
Apples and Oranges. If any practicing lawyers looked this over, it would take about 3 minutes to determine that something wasn't kosher. Before dropping $80k on a PI – Payday Loan.
But Jeffrey Judd is not a practicing lawyer so what makes you think that he did not rely on the practicing lawyer (Beasley) to affirm that this was kosher (to the extent that LDS people do kosher)?
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April 27, 2023 6:21 pm
Hey, whatever happened to I'm-Going-To-Sue-The-SBN Guy. Did I miss the lawsuit? Oh yeah, I forgot, it's never going to get filed.
Why the hurry? As I predicted, I will take criticism for taking so long. If u want an update, I’m re-editing per criticisms I received when releasing the draft to those I respect. I got a lot wrong on my first few iterations. Also, for this interested the AIChat thing has been very fun when asking about successfully suits against star bar associations. Anon blog postings won’t shame me into hurrying. It’s not a fast exercise to get it right.
"Anon blog postings won’t shame me into hurrying."
Thanks for clarifying. There was some confusion on this, LOL.
Seriously though, don't do this. Enjoy your retirement in St. George. Go get some dinner at the Chuck-A-Rama, take in a play at Tuacahn or maybe a round of golf. But don't do this.
My concern is that after all the bluster and promises of action there isn't much to see. A 10 year project and you don't "seek lawsuits?" Then why even post on here about it?
Vote for whoever thinks having a State Bar annual meeting 2000 miles away so a few special attorneys can have alone time with the judges is a bad idea.
Look at the stats, out of state Bar meetings get much higher attendance than when they all used to be in NV. Most of the people complaining about NYC would not go to the Annual meeting if it was in their back yard.
10:46 I have been to every SBN Annual Convention in Nevada in the last 30 years. I would challenge you to name the year that we last had it in Nevada. (HINT: It was longer ago than you think).
Same vein as the comment from last night that Larry Bertsch died….
Sal Gugino died. https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/las-vegas-nv/salvatore-gugino-11264208
RIP Sal. Good and funny guy.
Sal was a constant presence since I began practicing here more than 30 years ago. May he Rest In Peace.
I second the sentiment that he was a good guy and a good lawyer
Well this Beasley Letter changes things as far as Judd and the others go.
I still don't think that the feds will let it go and other bodies will drop and others will go to prison, including Judd.
Interesting and the hits keep on coming.
Or – it's just a ploy by Beasley to act like a martyr to take the blame for everything to try and protect his wife and former partner in crime.
Why would be do that? What does he owe Judd and the others?
I mean I get trying to protect his wife. But, in all seriousness, I think that the timing of this letter is important. If it was a year ago, alot has happened since then. It it was recently, it might be legit.
Said it before and will say it again (to the people who said I was crazy last week and did not know of which I spoke). Those that said that Beasley was rolling against Judd have it backwards. Judd is and has been cooperating with authorities.
The insistence that the attorney in the scheme is some stinking genius "playing chess while others are playing checkers" is as bad to those that keep insisting that Telles has the District Attorney right where he wants him. Sometimes a thief can be a thief without it necessarily having to involve and take down everyone who ever knew him.
You may be right. That said, why write the letter? Then or ever?
Step 5 of the 12 Steps is "Admitting to the higher power, oneself, and another person the wrongs done"
I get the idea of protecting his wife, but why the loyalty to Judd? Judd is not a lawyer, but in that he was seeing the whole elephant in terms of the breadth and scope of this (whereas others may have only been experiencing bits and pieces of it), it should have been obvious that something was not right. Wasn't he (or one of his underlings) the one who was so adamant that "investors" not seek to directly contact anyone involved with these supposed cases? Even if it wasn't, the red flags were everywhere.
Maybe (just maybe) Judd did not know anything. Who said Judd saw the whole elephant? Whereas other might have seen feet, Judd might have seen feet, torso and tail. Those lines between (a) knew; (b) should have known and (c) could have discovered upon reasonable investigation is a very murky one. I dont know Beasley or Judd. I dont go to their church or have any insight other than the well-known fact that financial frauds often correspondingly cluster with religious communities. I know the points reported by the media and the points being discussed second hand through people who claim to have knowledge. But lets leave open the possibility that Judd was just as snowed as the rest of them.
I know Judd personally and have done for well over 30 years. He is a smart guy. Zero chance that he didn't know. Maybe not the depth of the specifics, but he definitely had to know the broad brush strokes of the scheme.
Also zero chance that he doesn't do time along with Beasley. IMO.
Think about how many financially savvy people lost money to Madoff.
"Think about how many financially savvy people lost money to Madoff."
Exactly. We humans tend to grossly overestimate our ability to avoid falling victim to something like this. There were many savvy business people who fell for this. I have a good friend among them.
Apples and Oranges. If any practicing lawyers looked this over, it would take about 3 minutes to determine that something wasn't kosher. Before dropping $80k on a PI – Payday Loan.
But Jeffrey Judd is not a practicing lawyer so what makes you think that he did not rely on the practicing lawyer (Beasley) to affirm that this was kosher (to the extent that LDS people do kosher)?
Hey, whatever happened to I'm-Going-To-Sue-The-SBN Guy. Did I miss the lawsuit? Oh yeah, I forgot, it's never going to get filed.
He is too busy playing chess not checkers with Telles
Why the hurry? As I predicted, I will take criticism for taking so long. If u want an update, I’m re-editing per criticisms I received when releasing the draft to those I respect. I got a lot wrong on my first few iterations. Also, for this interested the AIChat thing has been very fun when asking about successfully suits against star bar associations. Anon blog postings won’t shame me into hurrying. It’s not a fast exercise to get it right.
Yawn.
"Anon blog postings won’t shame me into hurrying."
Thanks for clarifying. There was some confusion on this, LOL.
Seriously though, don't do this. Enjoy your retirement in St. George. Go get some dinner at the Chuck-A-Rama, take in a play at Tuacahn or maybe a round of golf. But don't do this.
You don't have to remind him not to do it. He's never going to file anything.
My concern is that after all the bluster and promises of action there isn't much to see. A 10 year project and you don't "seek lawsuits?" Then why even post on here about it?
How long does it take to write a complaint? Oh wait, he's not writing a complaint.
You guys are dicks. Just leave it alone.
If it happens, then it happens.
Mr. Dick here, and it ain't gonna happen.
bc you are a tool
Vote for Ben!
Vote for whoever thinks having a State Bar annual meeting 2000 miles away so a few special attorneys can have alone time with the judges is a bad idea.
I still can't believe the president of the bar just gets to pick where to go and then our dues go to that.
My recommendation to any wannabe brides is run for BoG President and have the wedding of your dreams.
Look at the stats, out of state Bar meetings get much higher attendance than when they all used to be in NV. Most of the people complaining about NYC would not go to the Annual meeting if it was in their back yard.
"Look at the stats, out of state Bar meetings get much higher attendance than when they all used to be in NV."
Link? Citation? What year did they last hold an annual conference here? Every year I've been practicing has been out of state.
10:46 I have been to every SBN Annual Convention in Nevada in the last 30 years. I would challenge you to name the year that we last had it in Nevada. (HINT: It was longer ago than you think).
2023 NYC
2022 Sonoma
2021 Coronado
2020 Cancelled
2019 Vail
2018 Chicago
2017 Austin
2016 Waikaloa
2015 Seattle
2014 Newport Beach
2013 Lake Tahoe
2012 Coronado
2011 Kauai
2010 Monterey
2009 Incline Village
2008 Santa Barbara
2007 Squaw Creek, CA
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litigation/attorneys-use-of-recordings-violated-wiretap-law
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=be53e766-1251-44e1-bba7-75c445d637ba