Represented by Alanna Bondy, parents of children sexually abused by bus driver sue CCSD. [RJ]
Unlicensed medical director of Nevada prison system on leave, facing termination. [Nevada Current]
One of our commenters posted the following: “I need help. I’m having a hard time. If you’re purposefully making someone’s life harder, stop. I wish there was someone to intervene. Stop being so awful to people. This isn’t a game.” What kind words of advice or comfort do you have for this commenter?
Please reach out to Lawyers Concerned for Lawyers. Im sorry you are struggling. This profession is full of nastiness. The civility element packed up and left long ago. You are not alone.
See, e.g., SB of MI program SOLACE. Not sure it’s applicable on Original OP’s facts, but it’s worth a thought. https://www.michbar.org/solace
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June 3, 2024 11:08 am
U are not alone my friend. Seek private help through friends n family. Sadly the current nsb is not there to help u and may hurt u. Do seek help but if u believer career steer far from Obc n nsb unless of course u work for a large firm or have friends there. Good luck.
This just makes me sad. This profession is stressful enough and the SBN and OBC don’t make any of our lives any easier. We can do our jobs and zealously represent our clients without acting like assholes 24/7. To the commenter – please reach out to a friend or loved one. You’ll get through this.
At the risk of sounding cheesy, we should all reach out to a colleague this week and ask how they’re doing.
This is one of the most positive posts I’ve ever read on this blog. I will commit to check in with a colleague and see how they are doing. I will also report back to the blog.
I accept and will check in with one fellow atty this week n report back
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June 3, 2024 11:50 am
Best advice – don’t take things so personally. We get opposing counsel is an asshole and it is usually because they are miserable themselves. Just ignore their nastiness and keep moving forward with your case. If they make personal attacks, address them in a professional manner as needed in the pleadings, but sometimes simply saying you are not going to partake in the personal attacks is the best route as all Judges hate this shit and most will address it right away. Ultimately, if you can learn to seperate the attacks from who you are as a person it helps.
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June 3, 2024 11:58 am
Off-topic but an ongoing matter of interest…
What is going on with the big issue at family court in which many (all?) of the Judges were miscategorizing divorce and/or custody cases so they would be invisible to searches on Odyssey?
Recently tried to pull up a 2019 case and could not find it. I know recently, a few months ago, D cases were viewable, and all of a sudden yesterday, trying to login to get documents for a case and it’s not even viewable with a username/password. The case simply was not even coming up.
Wasn’t someone suing in state or federal court to make sure the Judges don’t keep pulling unfortunate administrative trick?
It’s not just the judges. The clerk’s office is doing it too. They are converting all custody cases to P-cases. The P designation indicates that it is a paternity case and they are all “super sealed” so you cannot even see that the case exists. I know it’s the clerk’s office who is doing it because someone in my office had a relative involved in a pro se custody dispute. Dad filed the complaint for custody using self help forms and clearly marked that paternity is NOT in dispute. Before the Falconi writs came down, that case would have been a C-case (C indicating custody), but now the clerk’s office is automatically filing all custody cases as P-cases, even when paternity is not in dispute. Family court is trying to get around the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Falconi writs because they’re a bunch of scum sucking bottom feeders and they don’t want the public to know exactly how corrupt it is down there.
Here is what the family law comittee stated: There is no “custody case.” These were “judge-created.” Look at the EDCRs, NRCPs, NRSs, etc. None of them mention custody cases. Only divorce and paternity. Thus, whether clever or conniving, the current position is that “C cases” do not exist and therefore every C case is actually a P case.
@4:23 weird huh? The self help center still has custody complaint forms up. They’ve been filed for decades. Suddenly they’re all paternity cases. It’s like magic.
4:16 here. I’m not taking a position, just explaining what the position of those who make the decisions. Custody cases “just happened” even though they were never statutorily mandated anywhere. Also, this position was taken when the new family court EDCRs went into effect, not after the Falconi decision.
I am going to start immediately filing and Emergency Motion to Unseal and classify as a “C” case on an OST, calling out the clerk’s office’s erroneous actions. Enough of these get filed and someone will get involved.
CJ Jerry Weiss follows this blog. I know it for a fact. FKG Fix it.
Tell me again how Family Court thumbing its nose at the Nevada Supreme Court after the ONJ Decision by reclassifying cases is any different than Ballou simply coming up with excuses to ignore the Nevada Supreme Court’s directives to her.
Let me guess who is on the family law committee? Someone whose name starts with M? What a joke! The Nevada Supreme Court has approved custody complaint forms. There have always been custody complaints. This is a pathetic and naked attempt by the family court cabal to skirt around the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Falconi writs. Pro se litigants cannot even access their own cases to find out when they have a hearing because of this nonsense. This amounts to a denial of due process. Again, they would not be fighting so hard if they didn’t have something to hide. The family court bench and bar need to be brought to heel.
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June 3, 2024 1:03 pm
KNPR had an hour on the nastiness in Family Court this morning.
Guests: Alexander Falconi, founding director, Our Nevada Judges; Athar Haseebullah, executive director, ACLU of Nevada; Stewart Chang, professor of law, UNLV’s Boyd School of Law; Marshal Willick, family court attorney
To the person asking the question: Good for you! Not good for you that you need help but good for you for reaching out for help. The answer is to stand up to evil. Band together and stand up to evil. There is strength in numbers. There are other good people who are going through what you are going through and who will stand with you.
“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”– Mill
So its OK to put Dan Hooge’s and Phil Pattee’s initials but God forbid any real lawyers get their initials put on here.
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June 3, 2024 1:36 pm
This profession corrodes everyone. We all need help at some time. All of us. Reach out to at least one other person. Asking for help is an act of courage, not a sign of weakness.
I think that there is an expectation by the firm and clients that your attorney has to be a hard ass in disputed matters. How often have you been trying to work with the other side and they say “file a motion”.
Is there a line when working with the other side, and not bringing or opposing motions on every little thing, is malpractice?
I would expect that he’d probably not want people discussing him or his situation on here. I don’t believe I’ve ever met him, but I can only imagine he and his coworkers have been traumatized and deserve privacy while figuring out how to move forward.
Not 8:31 a.m., but gotta say: There was nothing wrong with 8:31 a.m.’s question. 8:31 a.m. was just asking what firm Kevin Strong is going to (or is he going solo, taking a sabbatical, etc.), not asking for Mr. Strong’s or his coworkers’ (8:31 said nothing at all about coworkers) private thought processes about “figuring out how to move forward.” Jeesh. Maybe 8:31 is interested in hiring Mr. Strong if Mr. Strong has not already taken a job elsewhere. It’s information that will eventually be disclosed anyway, and Mr. Strong is a big boy who can speak up for himself if he takes exception to anything said about him on this blog. As for discussion of him or his situation here – it is the result of a huge news story of particular interest to the intended audience of this blawg. Information and knowledge is good for the public in the long run.
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June 3, 2024 3:05 pm
Getting my ADHD diagnosis taught me about Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria. Not sure the commenter is dealing with that, but it came to mind reading the comment about not taking things personally. I have a physical reaction to negative behavior from others and it is so hard not to take it personally. Understanding RSD helps me pause and consider whether it is really directed at me personally. Some people enjoy being mean and a disproportionate amount of those people become lawyers.
The ultimate mean person is a sadist. I have met a few people in this profession who have the characteristics of a sadist.
DEFINITATION OF SADIST:
A sadist is someone who enjoys inflicting pain on others, sometimes in a sexual sense. Sadists like seeing other people hurt. A sadist is the opposite of a masochist, who enjoys being in pain. A sadist is all about hurting others, usually to get off sexually. However, this word is about more than sex.
I left a firm in which the Managing Partner took pride in inflicting pain on others. Last week, 2 of their top employees left for the same reason I did. The partners are baffled and actually hurt because they cannot fathom why no one wants to stay.
I’ve been fortunate in 30-plus years to have only had to deal with this a couple of times. I’m a solo now, which brings its own challenges, but a toxic office environment is not one of them.
Opposing counsels, competitors, people in the profession, the OBC… some of them can be mean, downright evil, sadist, or whatever.
I have those days as well and have been in a deep place as well. We all have except for those people who lack feelings. Those with dark triad traits.
Here is what helps me.
1. Talk to a trusted friend. And I mean a trusted friend. Not everyone can be trusted. Certainly not the OBC, SBN, etc.
2. Remember that tomorrow is a new day. I often feel better the next day or two days.
3. Remember that you can’t let evil prevail and if you give up…evil wins. Learn to beat them at their own game. Be the better attorney or whatever.
4. Remember this isn’t a short game. It’s a long game. In time, evil will fall on it’s face. People will turn on them. They will get caught with their pants down, etc.
5. Everyone fails. It’s how you get up and learn from it and become stronger.
Please reach out to Lawyers Concerned for Lawyers. Im sorry you are struggling. This profession is full of nastiness. The civility element packed up and left long ago. You are not alone.
See, e.g., SB of MI program SOLACE. Not sure it’s applicable on Original OP’s facts, but it’s worth a thought. https://www.michbar.org/solace
U are not alone my friend. Seek private help through friends n family. Sadly the current nsb is not there to help u and may hurt u. Do seek help but if u believer career steer far from Obc n nsb unless of course u work for a large firm or have friends there. Good luck.
Not to be mean, but your message reads like a high school student wrote it.
Texting w left hand at stoplight. So i understand what ur saying haha
11:21 “not to be mean”
You are embarrassing and a bully
11:08 is right
This just makes me sad. This profession is stressful enough and the SBN and OBC don’t make any of our lives any easier. We can do our jobs and zealously represent our clients without acting like assholes 24/7. To the commenter – please reach out to a friend or loved one. You’ll get through this.
At the risk of sounding cheesy, we should all reach out to a colleague this week and ask how they’re doing.
This is one of the most positive posts I’ve ever read on this blog. I will commit to check in with a colleague and see how they are doing. I will also report back to the blog.
Who else will take the challenge and report back?
I accept and will check in with one fellow atty this week n report back
Best advice – don’t take things so personally. We get opposing counsel is an asshole and it is usually because they are miserable themselves. Just ignore their nastiness and keep moving forward with your case. If they make personal attacks, address them in a professional manner as needed in the pleadings, but sometimes simply saying you are not going to partake in the personal attacks is the best route as all Judges hate this shit and most will address it right away. Ultimately, if you can learn to seperate the attacks from who you are as a person it helps.
Off-topic but an ongoing matter of interest…
What is going on with the big issue at family court in which many (all?) of the Judges were miscategorizing divorce and/or custody cases so they would be invisible to searches on Odyssey?
Recently tried to pull up a 2019 case and could not find it. I know recently, a few months ago, D cases were viewable, and all of a sudden yesterday, trying to login to get documents for a case and it’s not even viewable with a username/password. The case simply was not even coming up.
Wasn’t someone suing in state or federal court to make sure the Judges don’t keep pulling unfortunate administrative trick?
It’s not just the judges. The clerk’s office is doing it too. They are converting all custody cases to P-cases. The P designation indicates that it is a paternity case and they are all “super sealed” so you cannot even see that the case exists. I know it’s the clerk’s office who is doing it because someone in my office had a relative involved in a pro se custody dispute. Dad filed the complaint for custody using self help forms and clearly marked that paternity is NOT in dispute. Before the Falconi writs came down, that case would have been a C-case (C indicating custody), but now the clerk’s office is automatically filing all custody cases as P-cases, even when paternity is not in dispute. Family court is trying to get around the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Falconi writs because they’re a bunch of scum sucking bottom feeders and they don’t want the public to know exactly how corrupt it is down there.
Here is what the family law comittee stated: There is no “custody case.” These were “judge-created.” Look at the EDCRs, NRCPs, NRSs, etc. None of them mention custody cases. Only divorce and paternity. Thus, whether clever or conniving, the current position is that “C cases” do not exist and therefore every C case is actually a P case.
So tell me why for 20+ years there have been “C” cases and judge approved self help forms for “C” cases.
https://www.familylawselfhelpcenter.org/forms/84-custody-paternity-child-support-forms
@4:23 weird huh? The self help center still has custody complaint forms up. They’ve been filed for decades. Suddenly they’re all paternity cases. It’s like magic.
4:16 here. I’m not taking a position, just explaining what the position of those who make the decisions. Custody cases “just happened” even though they were never statutorily mandated anywhere. Also, this position was taken when the new family court EDCRs went into effect, not after the Falconi decision.
I am going to start immediately filing and Emergency Motion to Unseal and classify as a “C” case on an OST, calling out the clerk’s office’s erroneous actions. Enough of these get filed and someone will get involved.
CJ Jerry Weiss follows this blog. I know it for a fact. FKG Fix it.
Tell me again how Family Court thumbing its nose at the Nevada Supreme Court after the ONJ Decision by reclassifying cases is any different than Ballou simply coming up with excuses to ignore the Nevada Supreme Court’s directives to her.
It isnt.
Let me guess who is on the family law committee? Someone whose name starts with M? What a joke! The Nevada Supreme Court has approved custody complaint forms. There have always been custody complaints. This is a pathetic and naked attempt by the family court cabal to skirt around the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Falconi writs. Pro se litigants cannot even access their own cases to find out when they have a hearing because of this nonsense. This amounts to a denial of due process. Again, they would not be fighting so hard if they didn’t have something to hide. The family court bench and bar need to be brought to heel.
KNPR had an hour on the nastiness in Family Court this morning.
Guests: Alexander Falconi, founding director, Our Nevada Judges; Athar Haseebullah, executive director, ACLU of Nevada; Stewart Chang, professor of law, UNLV’s Boyd School of Law; Marshal Willick, family court attorney
https://knpr.org/show/knprs-state-of-nevada/2024-06-03/nevadas-family-courts-have-issues-what-can-fix-them
To the person asking the question: Good for you! Not good for you that you need help but good for you for reaching out for help. The answer is to stand up to evil. Band together and stand up to evil. There is strength in numbers. There are other good people who are going through what you are going through and who will stand with you.
“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”– Mill
Did Mill know DH and PP?
So its OK to put Dan Hooge’s and Phil Pattee’s initials but God forbid any real lawyers get their initials put on here.
This profession corrodes everyone. We all need help at some time. All of us. Reach out to at least one other person. Asking for help is an act of courage, not a sign of weakness.
I think that there is an expectation by the firm and clients that your attorney has to be a hard ass in disputed matters. How often have you been trying to work with the other side and they say “file a motion”.
Is there a line when working with the other side, and not bringing or opposing motions on every little thing, is malpractice?
Parke Injury hit the big time. Front page of the chive https://thechive.com/
Best billboards in town. Hands down.
Dennis Prince Law Group shut its doors.
where are the various attorneys winding up?
What about Kevin Strong?
I would expect that he’d probably not want people discussing him or his situation on here. I don’t believe I’ve ever met him, but I can only imagine he and his coworkers have been traumatized and deserve privacy while figuring out how to move forward.
Not 8:31 a.m., but gotta say: There was nothing wrong with 8:31 a.m.’s question. 8:31 a.m. was just asking what firm Kevin Strong is going to (or is he going solo, taking a sabbatical, etc.), not asking for Mr. Strong’s or his coworkers’ (8:31 said nothing at all about coworkers) private thought processes about “figuring out how to move forward.” Jeesh. Maybe 8:31 is interested in hiring Mr. Strong if Mr. Strong has not already taken a job elsewhere. It’s information that will eventually be disclosed anyway, and Mr. Strong is a big boy who can speak up for himself if he takes exception to anything said about him on this blog. As for discussion of him or his situation here – it is the result of a huge news story of particular interest to the intended audience of this blawg. Information and knowledge is good for the public in the long run.
Getting my ADHD diagnosis taught me about Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria. Not sure the commenter is dealing with that, but it came to mind reading the comment about not taking things personally. I have a physical reaction to negative behavior from others and it is so hard not to take it personally. Understanding RSD helps me pause and consider whether it is really directed at me personally. Some people enjoy being mean and a disproportionate amount of those people become lawyers.
The ultimate mean person is a sadist. I have met a few people in this profession who have the characteristics of a sadist.
DEFINITATION OF SADIST:
A sadist is someone who enjoys inflicting pain on others, sometimes in a sexual sense. Sadists like seeing other people hurt. A sadist is the opposite of a masochist, who enjoys being in pain. A sadist is all about hurting others, usually to get off sexually. However, this word is about more than sex.
I left a firm in which the Managing Partner took pride in inflicting pain on others. Last week, 2 of their top employees left for the same reason I did. The partners are baffled and actually hurt because they cannot fathom why no one wants to stay.
I’ve been fortunate in 30-plus years to have only had to deal with this a couple of times. I’m a solo now, which brings its own challenges, but a toxic office environment is not one of them.
Ditto – Solo for 22 years.
Does the firm conduct exit interviews? If so, are the interviewees not being honest?
Why be honest in this situation? Best case scenario you break even, worst case scenario you burn a bridge.
I didn’t know RSD was a thing and am now going to look into it because I certainly feel this way often. Thank you for this information!
Did you steal that headline from my girlfriend? That’s what she always says.
What advice do you give her?
Opposing counsels, competitors, people in the profession, the OBC… some of them can be mean, downright evil, sadist, or whatever.
I have those days as well and have been in a deep place as well. We all have except for those people who lack feelings. Those with dark triad traits.
Here is what helps me.
1. Talk to a trusted friend. And I mean a trusted friend. Not everyone can be trusted. Certainly not the OBC, SBN, etc.
2. Remember that tomorrow is a new day. I often feel better the next day or two days.
3. Remember that you can’t let evil prevail and if you give up…evil wins. Learn to beat them at their own game. Be the better attorney or whatever.
4. Remember this isn’t a short game. It’s a long game. In time, evil will fall on it’s face. People will turn on them. They will get caught with their pants down, etc.
5. Everyone fails. It’s how you get up and learn from it and become stronger.
This is solid advice. Thanks for posting!