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In the July issue of Nevada Lawyer magazine, new President of the State Bar of Nevada, Ann Morgan writes about “Why I’m Involved.” Towards the end of her piece, she says, “However we make our living, we are part of a noble profession.” What are your thoughts on that statement? Is the law still a noble profession? Was it ever? Is it true that it is noble regardless of the nature of your practice? (For fun, here is a post from 2014 on a related topic.)

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July 21, 2021 4:54 pm

Can anyone tell me where the new guidelines for submitting Orders to EJDC can be found? I remember seeing that you just include a blank signature line and not a date? But I'm looking for the rule/guideline and cannot find. TIA

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July 21, 2021 5:05 pm
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Administrative Order 21-03 Pages 12 and 13, and you are correct about a blank signature line and no date. The date is added when the Judge e-signs the order.

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July 21, 2021 5:01 pm

Blank signature line, no date. You are correct.

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July 21, 2021 5:04 pm
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Thanks. It annoys me to no end that these Admin Orders are scanned and not optimized, and doesn't allow me to search through them easily.

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July 21, 2021 10:18 pm
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Stop being a cheap ass and spend the money on Adobe Acrobat Pro.

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July 21, 2021 11:30 pm
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July 21, 2021 5:04 pm

The profession is noble. The practitioners, by in large, are not. IMHO.

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July 21, 2021 5:28 pm

Depending on my answer, is the State Bar going to charge me more if I say that the profession is noble or not?

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July 21, 2021 5:34 pm

Bar dues have not been raised for 10+ years

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July 21, 2021 10:33 pm
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And the State Bar was sued for running a public relations campaign on your nickel 19 years ago.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1249896.html

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July 21, 2021 6:11 pm

I have an opponent who brought a case that's absolutely foreclosed by the law. He won't ever address any of the cases that say he should lose, and he resorts to personal insults when I talk to him. He has subpoenad my law firm and has suggested that I'm changing witness testimony. I go home every day and tell him he needs to work on his math/science/reading so he doesn't have to endure the misery of being a fucking lawyer. So yes, super noble profession.

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July 21, 2021 6:12 pm
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OOPS, EDIT: I go home every day and tell **my son that** he needs to work on his math/science/reading…

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July 21, 2021 6:14 pm
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To be honest, the thought of you going home and calling opposing counsel to tell him to work on his math/science/reading so he doesn't have to endure the ongoing misery of being a worthless lawyer kind of made me giggle.

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July 21, 2021 6:28 pm
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"Dear Opposing Counsel,

As we close another contentious day, I just wanted to remind you — work hard at your math, science, and reading so you don't have to endure the misery of this fucking profession. I will see you at the hearing on the umpteenth stupid motion tomorrow.

Warmest Regards,
Noble Lawyer
"

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July 21, 2021 10:55 pm
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Not gonna lie…gonna steal this and make it a template

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July 21, 2021 11:32 pm
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When I first read it I thought it was a rather flex move to email OC and tell him he needed to get out of law; glad that was cleared up.

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July 21, 2021 6:26 pm

Law could be a noble profession but for the biglaw influences in the state bars across the US

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July 21, 2021 6:42 pm
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My experience is the opposite. Big law lawyers (and government lawyers) can be pompous or bullies. But they usually have too much at stake to be outright unethical. There are bad apples to be sure. But in my experience, it's LA plaintiff's lawyers that went to very low-ranked law schools that will routinely do or say whatever it takes to extract some settlement or a win.

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July 21, 2021 6:57 pm

Whether the profession is "noble" or just a trade is up to you, my fellow members. It's all about attitude and self-belief. I believe that law is a profession with a noble purpose. I acknowledge that it is sometimes hard to believe in it with the daily grind. Remember that your nasty client or nasty opposing counsel is not going home with you, nor is the nasty non-lawyer troll that inhabits this blog. Find your Zen.

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July 21, 2021 6:59 pm

I consider it a calling, not a profession. As I tell my kids, if you listen closely, you will hear God calling. Answer.

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July 21, 2021 7:56 pm
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Sometimes I feel noble. Sometimes I feel dirty. I always feel exhausted and tired. Sometimes I accomplish noble ends. Other times I act legally but achieve an advantage for my client that most lay people would not consider justice.

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July 21, 2021 11:30 pm
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Yep, this pretty much sums it up.

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July 21, 2021 7:29 pm

Sometimes I think I help people, but most of the time I think this job sucks and there really isn't anything noble about it.

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July 21, 2021 11:53 pm

For all you branch covidians. From your favorite conspiracy theorist

Marilou Danley, the girlfriend of Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock, worked for the FBI, according to credit application data the Australian national reported as part of a loan application.

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July 22, 2021 12:00 am
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What inference do you want us to draw from this? When did she work for the FBI? What does that even mean? Why does it matter? Why do you do this?

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July 22, 2021 2:44 pm
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Just another piece of evidence that 10/01 was a False Flag. Insert tin foil hat here.

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July 22, 2021 4:26 pm
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That information never came out locally. As I recall LVMP had some interest in the girlfriend. She lived with the guy and certainly knew something about the large amount of weapons and ammunition. Then the FBI took over the case and not much was heard after that about the girlfriend.

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July 22, 2021 4:29 pm
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Only a coincidence. Paddock was the guy who hated his existence so much that he hated everything that was in existence. If he had left a message or manifesto, then it would read like the message left by the Columbine shooters. People like this hate their own reality so much that they begin to blame anything else for their self torment. Their belief is that nothing deserves to live and that is why they do what they do. There is no other explanation.

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July 22, 2021 6:26 pm
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Tin hat, or coincidence. If the 4:53 post is true, then it is really interesting that law enforcement's interest in an FBI employee who was intimately involved with the shooter, suddenly cools when the FBI takes over the case.

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July 23, 2021 2:24 pm
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Or, objectively speaking, the whole thing was a setup and Paddock was a patsy and the reports of multiple shooters from multiples levels are accurate. I'm not sure what is true, just that we have never had the full story.

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July 23, 2021 3:20 pm

Too many personal injury attorneys employ and unethically split fees with non-lawyer "cappers" to make the profession honerable.

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July 23, 2021 4:14 pm
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Its called "REFERRAL FEES".