Craig Drummond. I think he does a lot locally for Veterans.
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November 11, 2016 4:32 pm
I second Drummond
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November 11, 2016 5:03 pm
Ugh. Sorry enough with the Veterans stuff. If we want to celebrate the people who made the ultimate sacrifice, absolutely. They can have Veterans Day but stop making Memorial Day and Independence Day and pretty much every holiday another celebration of the same goddamn thing. Secondarily if you did a 3 year tour in some domestic port or base during peace time, that doesn't make you a hero. That makes you someone who did your job for the paycheck you signed up to get. This is the reason our firm doesn't close down today merely to celebrate people doing their job.
9:03 AM, spoken like a person that was never in the military, and no one in their family was ever in the military (which would have then instilled some respect). I bet your grandparents and parents went to college to avoid military service, and in turn, created you who thinks that service in the United States military is just a "job for a paycheck."
9:37– Actually my Grandfather served in WWII. My Father served in Vietnam. As I indicated below, I committed myself to service after college in a different way. Guess what? They were drafted. They did not choose to go. Today's military (as well as the last 40 years which means anyone below the age of 60 basically) is made up of an all-volunteer force. I am not bashing Veterans. By saying that we do not need multiple holidays to celebrate people doing their job, that is not bashing them. Kudos to all people who do their job and do it well in all contributing parts of society.
Except this isn't Memorial Day or Independence Day, it's Veterans Day. It's ironic that you're the one complaining when it's only the ill-informed like yourself who don't know the difference. Oh, and BTW I did 21 years. So, on a personal note: Kiss my ass.
11:53 – I assume you're also 9:03. You keep using the word "hero" but I never used it. I happen to agree that serving in the military doesn't make you a hero. But it does come with sacrifice. Long hours, low pay, dangerous work (even in peacetime), time away from home and family. For the length of your service you are subject to going where you're told, when you're told. Defiance of those orders is illegal. So, it's not just a job. You can quit a job without going to prison. Now, continue to act like a douche if it makes you feel better. Whether you appreciate my service or not doesn't matter.
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November 11, 2016 5:10 pm
9:03 where did you serve? Why not give these men and women 1 day? I think 1 day is fine. I agree abt the vets who really didn't do anything but I don't know how you distinguish.
9:03 here– I agree with you. Give them one day. I would love to honor Veterans today if today was the day to do that. But today is one of at least 5 holidays where you will hear "Make sure you stop and say thank you to all of the Veterans today." Frankly today has become so diluted that it has no meaning. If they called it Armistice Day, it might have more meaning (although its meaning would be on par with Pearl Harbor/V-E/V-J Day). As far as where did I serve, I served after college in the Peace Corps. Sure it was not shining jeeps or marching in line in Texas but it is service. I don't need a day, let alone multiple days, for people to pat me on the back for a job I did 20+ years ago.
No. Memorial Day honors those who died in service to the country. Independence Day celebrates the day that the country declared independence from England. There is great honor in serving in the Peace Corps. You shouldn't tarnish it by denigrating the service of others.
9:56, It used to be called Armistice Day, and still is in countries throughout the world. And if you don't use the day to celebrate living vets, use the day to reflect on the horrors of war, and in particular, the end of The Great War. Which was the War to End All Wars, until it turns out it didn't. If you don't to be thanked, that's fine. Wear a poppy, instead.
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November 11, 2016 5:31 pm
Just because an individual signed up during peace time (or served their entire enlistment during peace time) makes them no less honorable than those that serve during times of war and conflict. Soldiers are always at risk. The girl that enlisted on September 10, 2001. How is she less heroic than those that enlisted on September 12, 2001. Get a clue.
That someone took a job in the Military does not make them honorable. It certainly does not make them heroic. Honor and heroism are shown by acts you do, not the job you hold. And yes, our military is a profession. You are not honorable or heroic because you joined the legal field merely because there actually are people in the legal field who do honorable and heroic things. You get a clue.
Enlisting itself is honorable because that individual is agreeing to sacrifice their life for their country and to kill for their country. Like literally DIE, or shoot/stab/maim another human being merely because that human being is the other. Lawyers, not so much. We may work long hours for ungrateful clients, but we do not, for the most part, face death or the prospect of having to kill/harm another human because our boss tells us to do it. So the comparison is pretty ridiculous.
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November 11, 2016 5:57 pm
Amy Coffee
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November 11, 2016 6:13 pm
Why are we bashing vets. Give them credit. They agreed to defend us rather than just try to make money. The fact that they volunteer means they deserve more credit. If you want to knock them then pick up a gun and man a post. Otherwise fuck off.
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November 11, 2016 6:17 pm
The fact someone served and took shit $ and have to deal with a shit VA is more honorable than most. How do you think we protect this country? All these people want is a "hey thanks for what you did." Seems simple enough. If you have a problem with that then move to Canada you arrogant ass.
Sure. Lets have a Cops Day, and everyone can get off work. And then a Firefighters Day, and everyone can take off work. In fact lets have a day so that everyone can be patted on the back for signing up for a low-paying job. If you want to pay soldiers commensurate with the work they perform, you have my support. If you want to clean up the VA and make it run more efficiently, you have my support. If you want blathering orthodoxy that just because someone signed up for the Military they are a hero, you lose me.
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November 11, 2016 6:27 pm
Seems like Jeanne Winkler has been continuously disciplined or investigated or sentenced for as long as I can remember. Was she ever a real lawyer? Or has her whole career been just one scam after another? What a waste of a career.
Here is one for Vet Day. Name your favorite local attorney who is a Veteran.
Mitch Cobeaga
^^^^ This
A million times yes
I think John Momot is a vet
Craig Drummond. I think he does a lot locally for Veterans.
I second Drummond
Ugh. Sorry enough with the Veterans stuff. If we want to celebrate the people who made the ultimate sacrifice, absolutely. They can have Veterans Day but stop making Memorial Day and Independence Day and pretty much every holiday another celebration of the same goddamn thing. Secondarily if you did a 3 year tour in some domestic port or base during peace time, that doesn't make you a hero. That makes you someone who did your job for the paycheck you signed up to get. This is the reason our firm doesn't close down today merely to celebrate people doing their job.
Gawd…I'm never self-describing as cynical again.
9:03 AM, spoken like a person that was never in the military, and no one in their family was ever in the military (which would have then instilled some respect). I bet your grandparents and parents went to college to avoid military service, and in turn, created you who thinks that service in the United States military is just a "job for a paycheck."
9:03, fuck you. How dare you bash veterans.
9:37– Actually my Grandfather served in WWII. My Father served in Vietnam. As I indicated below, I committed myself to service after college in a different way. Guess what? They were drafted. They did not choose to go. Today's military (as well as the last 40 years which means anyone below the age of 60 basically) is made up of an all-volunteer force. I am not bashing Veterans. By saying that we do not need multiple holidays to celebrate people doing their job, that is not bashing them. Kudos to all people who do their job and do it well in all contributing parts of society.
Except this isn't Memorial Day or Independence Day, it's Veterans Day. It's ironic that you're the one complaining when it's only the ill-informed like yourself who don't know the difference. Oh, and BTW I did 21 years. So, on a personal note: Kiss my ass.
Congrats on 21 years on the job. Doesn't make you a hero. Maybe a pension.
11:53 – I assume you're also 9:03. You keep using the word "hero" but I never used it. I happen to agree that serving in the military doesn't make you a hero. But it does come with sacrifice. Long hours, low pay, dangerous work (even in peacetime), time away from home and family. For the length of your service you are subject to going where you're told, when you're told. Defiance of those orders is illegal. So, it's not just a job. You can quit a job without going to prison. Now, continue to act like a douche if it makes you feel better. Whether you appreciate my service or not doesn't matter.
9:03 where did you serve? Why not give these men and women 1 day? I think 1 day is fine. I agree abt the vets who really didn't do anything but I don't know how you distinguish.
9:03 here– I agree with you. Give them one day. I would love to honor Veterans today if today was the day to do that. But today is one of at least 5 holidays where you will hear "Make sure you stop and say thank you to all of the Veterans today." Frankly today has become so diluted that it has no meaning. If they called it Armistice Day, it might have more meaning (although its meaning would be on par with Pearl Harbor/V-E/V-J Day). As far as where did I serve, I served after college in the Peace Corps. Sure it was not shining jeeps or marching in line in Texas but it is service. I don't need a day, let alone multiple days, for people to pat me on the back for a job I did 20+ years ago.
No. Memorial Day honors those who died in service to the country. Independence Day celebrates the day that the country declared independence from England. There is great honor in serving in the Peace Corps. You shouldn't tarnish it by denigrating the service of others.
9:56, It used to be called Armistice Day, and still is in countries throughout the world. And if you don't use the day to celebrate living vets, use the day to reflect on the horrors of war, and in particular, the end of The Great War. Which was the War to End All Wars, until it turns out it didn't. If you don't to be thanked, that's fine. Wear a poppy, instead.
Just because an individual signed up during peace time (or served their entire enlistment during peace time) makes them no less honorable than those that serve during times of war and conflict. Soldiers are always at risk. The girl that enlisted on September 10, 2001. How is she less heroic than those that enlisted on September 12, 2001. Get a clue.
That someone took a job in the Military does not make them honorable. It certainly does not make them heroic. Honor and heroism are shown by acts you do, not the job you hold. And yes, our military is a profession. You are not honorable or heroic because you joined the legal field merely because there actually are people in the legal field who do honorable and heroic things. You get a clue.
Enlisting itself is honorable because that individual is agreeing to sacrifice their life for their country and to kill for their country. Like literally DIE, or shoot/stab/maim another human being merely because that human being is the other. Lawyers, not so much. We may work long hours for ungrateful clients, but we do not, for the most part, face death or the prospect of having to kill/harm another human because our boss tells us to do it. So the comparison is pretty ridiculous.
Amy Coffee
Why are we bashing vets. Give them credit. They agreed to defend us rather than just try to make money. The fact that they volunteer means they deserve more credit. If you want to knock them then pick up a gun and man a post. Otherwise fuck off.
The fact someone served and took shit $ and have to deal with a shit VA is more honorable than most. How do you think we protect this country? All these people want is a "hey thanks for what you did." Seems simple enough. If you have a problem with that then move to Canada you arrogant ass.
Sure. Lets have a Cops Day, and everyone can get off work. And then a Firefighters Day, and everyone can take off work. In fact lets have a day so that everyone can be patted on the back for signing up for a low-paying job. If you want to pay soldiers commensurate with the work they perform, you have my support. If you want to clean up the VA and make it run more efficiently, you have my support. If you want blathering orthodoxy that just because someone signed up for the Military they are a hero, you lose me.
Seems like Jeanne Winkler has been continuously disciplined or investigated or sentenced for as long as I can remember. Was she ever a real lawyer? Or has her whole career been just one scam after another? What a waste of a career.
The article claiming that she was a "victim" of the Jones/Cercle mess is a farce. How about front and center in perpetrating it?