Like anything else, it won't be equally applied. If you're a person of influence (or the "correct" political opinions) it won't apply to you. If you're not either of these, it will apply to you.
I'd rather be in downtown Detroit or Philadelphia than the cesspool that is the strip.
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July 28, 2022 5:03 pm
>In one instance from May 2021, a company executive suggested a list of ways to “get rid” of a past-due tenant in San Antonio, the report states. That included swapping her working air-conditioning unit with a broken one, having security knock on her room’s door at least twice a night, and calling child protective services “to come out” if there were too many people in her room.
I'm generally sympathetic to landlords with unpaying tenants, but this does seem a little, uh, extreme
Yeah, Siegel are a bunch of dirt bags. Most people reading this will never stay at a Siegel property, but they also own pink box doughnuts and bagelmania, so I would avoid those places.
#IstandwithSiegelSuites! They provide the market a service no one else provides, including and especially bleeding heart liberals and their billionaire buddies. (Is there a Soros Suites? A Bezos Suites? No? Why not?) Unlike all of you, Siegel Suites provides housing for the poor at reasonable rates. If you could do better, then go do it. But you won't, because you lack the strength and commitment of Siegel Suites.
I am so amped up, I think I will drive to the Siegel Suites down the street from my office and drop off a box of donuts with the office. Thank you for your service!
11:59– I am generally pro-business and understand the niche that a discount residence/short term tenancy facility can have. But I don't recall the same problems with Budget Suites when Bigelow owned and ran them. That you serve a niche does not mean that you serve it properly. Siegel's business practices are reprehensible when it comes to tenancy law.
Fine. Serve a niche. I agree that there is a segment of the population that would not be housed otherwise. But follow the law and be honest. Shouldn't be that tough.
Just because you serve a niche doesnt mean you are necessary or moral. Seigel Suites is the Payday Loan of weekly rentals. I have a family member that has been trapped in the "weekly" rut for the better part of 20 years and has paid more in rent than the mortgage on my 4,000 sq foot 5 bed/3 1/2 bath home.
I know of Seigel Suites' illegal lock-out process. Don't pay your rent, instead of a legally required pay-or-quit and complaint for summary eviction, Seigel Suites will do an immediate lock-out of the delinquent tenant by re-programming the apartment's electronic locks. No notice, no due process, no nuttin.
Yes, Seigel Suites provides a necessary niche service ("food for bedbugs" is the niche they serve), but I think the laws are supposed to apply to Seigel Suites.
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July 28, 2022 5:14 pm
The Strip is the engine that feeds all of us, directly or indirectly. We should all be concerned when vagrants, ne'er do wells and petty criminals are making tourists feel unsafe. I am for aggressively sweeping these people off the Strip by any legal means necessary. Surely we are not going to self-immolate by prioritizing the rights of these people to be on the Strip over the economic interests of the entire city. I say this as someone who normally cheers the ACLU on.
We have one of the top ten highest rates of homelessness per capita in this city. In cities with real winters, the city/state has to shelter them because they freeze to death in winter if they aren't sheltered. Here the government entities get away with not sheltering people because while our weather might be uncomfortable, you don't generally die outside here. There is a tremendous amount of money flowing in this city. There is absolutely no reason for our homeless issue to be as bad as it is. Years ago Utah effectively ended involuntary homelessness and found that actually housing the population reduced medical and law enforcement expenses (amongst others). Also, by housing people, services can be centralized. Social workers and rehab counselors can find and maintain contact with housed individuals, get them clean and get them enrolled in job programs. Utah's right wing legislature has stopped funding the programs, but the data is still there. We already have strong entry-level jobs programs in this city through the unions. We have the money if we wanted to put it to use. There is simply no excuse for the homelessness in this city to be as bad as it is. It is cruelty, plain and simple. A big portion of our homeless folks could be working, contributing members of the community if they could just get a foothold.
Uh – yea….you know I, hate this town and state, uh, if you gonna cause trouble on the strip you better be grate – full, that I don't smack yo azz, outta here, to the next town, cuz trobuble on the strip, yo I ain't down.
"So, civil rights only apply when it allegedly protects your golden calf: "tourism"."
It's not a golden calf, it's the goose that lays the golden egg. Hey, let's let every vagrant onto the Strip and drive away tourists. In the end, the only thing that matters is that we protected the civil liberties of aggressive pan handlers and street performers.
No.
Clean it up, push them off the Strip. A good solution to this is to just deed the sidewalks and rights of way to the casinos. Private property, problem solved. Now the Constitution is not only not an impediment, it's a tool we can use in the clean up.
The vagrants are not going to likely be banned from the Strip. The ban is a separate issue from the homelessness problem. No doubt we are headed he way of San Francisco in many respects.
@1:46 (who is presumably @10:38) – many thanks for this.
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July 28, 2022 6:45 pm
the real problem is that Las Vegas has been operating like a small town. after the boom and semi bust of 2005-2009, Vegas has slowly realized that its not a small town anymore, and must change the way it does things. However, many locals resist the change needed to adapt to this place being a proper big city. We want sports teams, but not to help incentivize them to come. we want better education, but not raise property taxes to fund them. We want cleaner streets, but wont enact measures to have them. although through much complaining we have achieve some measure of progression, Vegas has a long way to go before we run things like other similarly sized big cities (Portland, SLC, Denver, Austin, St Louis, Indianapolis, etc)
11:45 AM–Better education–raise taxes. Have been in this town for over 40 years and they have been complaining about the education system/funding for forever. We have thrown more money at the CCSD and elsewhere and it has not helped at all. Raising property taxes won't help except add to inflation and higher housing costs. The system is broken beyond repair. Money will only make the problem worse because it has not helped. The School District gets everything they need and then some but has nothing to show for it. Reason: Wasteful spending. Top heavy management. Lets let everybody get stoned on pot and improve education with funding. Ain't gonna happen.
@12:03 you undermine your point with the weird comment about getting stoned. That has nothing to do with CCSD. Makes you sound like a bitter old boomer. Don't do that. CCSD is a hot mess. You're right – it's top heavy, bloated, and ineffective. But that has nothing to do with getting stoned on the pot.
12:11PM–Getting stoned misses the point. All the dough from legalized pot was supposed to solve the education problem in Vegas with more money. Was being facetious. The point is raising the sales tax and creative funding has not solved CCSDs problems. Mismanagement. Wasteful spending. Too many tiers of management.
3:12 PM–Split up CCSD into smaller parts. The Legislature authorized that and it never happened. What they need to do is to offer vouchers so parents and children can chose their schools. The teachers union and the School District don't want this because it would bring an end to their government funded monopoly.
"We have thrown money at CCSD." Nevada has the second lowest per-student spending in the country. Money isn't a panacea but it's simply wrong to say that properly funding our schools has failed. We've never tried.
We don't have to try. Where has throwing money at the problem worked. There's a documentary about NY schools showing resolutions without additional funding. A lack of parent involvement and discipline at home are two issues money won't solve, but vouchers will allow parents who actually care to get their kids into a better school.
Vouchers and charter schools just divert money away from public schools. The right has been trying to privatize the mail, SS, medicaid, and education for decades now. Vouchers are a scam. We should fund public schools and scrap the CCSD administration.
Money is never the solution. All it does is get diverted to admin and bureaucratic fluff, never to the students. Vouchers are just plain equitable. Why should my property taxes be sent to a system that that I choose to bypass by homeschooling or private schools? As for the charter schools of today, they are just public schools with uniforms. Gone are the days of charter schools being worth a damn.
Money is never the solution? Hahaha Ok. Go ask the smartest college grads why they don't want to be teachers. Only people with money say it's not the solution. Your property taxes should fund education because you live in this community and it is your obligation. The amish pay property taxes that fund public schools that they don't use – you can too. Charter schools are NOT public schools. They self-select the best students so their numbers look better than public schools. Reality is that they just take the best, smartest, wealthiest students and exclude disabled children and children with behavior problems. I do not have children and I am happy for my taxes to fund public education.
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July 28, 2022 7:23 pm
The Class of 2020/21 PDs strike again. Watching them learn civil law on the fly has been nothing short of amazing.
I am with you. When I read the story in the RJ about Trujillo ruling on the case, I pictured a little league umpire calling balls and strikes in Dodger Stadium.
Watching the hatred on this blog against the 2020 judges is what has been nothing short of amazing. For years, judges like Kephart and Smith made absolutely garbage rulings in civil cases and no one batted an eye or blamed their gender or the fact that they were former DAs.
But a handful (yes, handful) of female PD judges is elected in and suddenly every decision is wrong simply because they are “Part of the 2020 class” and is attributed to their former employment.
Trujillo wasn’t the first judge to rule against the city on this issue. Tim Williams was. So, is it “Tim Williams strikes again?” Is he also a little league umpire making calls in Dodger Stadium?
Or do you only have a problem with the ruling if a female former PD made it?
Smith and Kephart were absolutely (rightly) pilloried. But we have an entire slate elected together that rises and falls together. No one is saying Yeager falls in that category. I am not blaming Trujillo's gender. I am blaming the absolutely mind-numbing rulings that she makes (this is not the first or only case where her is subject of scrutiny).
The point is Kephart and Smith were spoken of as individuals. People didn’t refer to every bad decision they made as the “male DAs” striking again.
It’s fine to have issues with judges making bad rulings, but lumping them all together is ridiculous and has become a common practice around the courthouse.
They shouldn’t “rise and fall together.” Some of them are good, some of them are bad, just like all the other judges.
I too am a rare one that was born here in 1958, was raised here, went to unlv undergrad, and work here as an attorney. I too am very sad for what the state has become. It could’ve been better. Just my humble two cents.
Can't live in Utah-9:36 AM-because I would lose ten per cent of my income. Besides that there is not enough legal work in Utah and too many BYU and U of U grads. But they have an easy bar. So does Nevada now.
I don't know. But there are some hot men at my local chickfila who work there whoa
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July 29, 2022 4:36 pm
I have sincerely enjoyed the last two days of monsoon storms. The air is fresh and cooler. Hoping the meteorologists are correct that we have a chance of another monsoon today. Fingers crossed.
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July 29, 2022 6:00 pm
I finally got around to reading the Administrative Agency opinion by SCOTUS. The Gorsuch and Alito concurrence was a treat. Footnote 1 distills the argument perfectly. When I was young and dumb, I was also an elitist who thought I knew better than the masses. Now, older and wiser, I realize this is not the case at all, and that people should be free to choose.
I am not sure how I feel about the stay out orders. Seems like it could be easily abused by judges.
ACLU? Good,punish the sex trafficked. What about the pimps?
Like anything else, it won't be equally applied. If you're a person of influence (or the "correct" political opinions) it won't apply to you. If you're not either of these, it will apply to you.
I'd rather be in downtown Detroit or Philadelphia than the cesspool that is the strip.
>In one instance from May 2021, a company executive suggested a list of ways to “get rid” of a past-due tenant in San Antonio, the report states. That included swapping her working air-conditioning unit with a broken one, having security knock on her room’s door at least twice a night, and calling child protective services “to come out” if there were too many people in her room.
I'm generally sympathetic to landlords with unpaying tenants, but this does seem a little, uh, extreme
Yeah, Siegel are a bunch of dirt bags. Most people reading this will never stay at a Siegel property, but they also own pink box doughnuts and bagelmania, so I would avoid those places.
#IstandwithSiegelSuites! They provide the market a service no one else provides, including and especially bleeding heart liberals and their billionaire buddies. (Is there a Soros Suites? A Bezos Suites? No? Why not?) Unlike all of you, Siegel Suites provides housing for the poor at reasonable rates. If you could do better, then go do it. But you won't, because you lack the strength and commitment of Siegel Suites.
I am so amped up, I think I will drive to the Siegel Suites down the street from my office and drop off a box of donuts with the office. Thank you for your service!
11:59– I am generally pro-business and understand the niche that a discount residence/short term tenancy facility can have. But I don't recall the same problems with Budget Suites when Bigelow owned and ran them. That you serve a niche does not mean that you serve it properly. Siegel's business practices are reprehensible when it comes to tenancy law.
Fine. Serve a niche. I agree that there is a segment of the population that would not be housed otherwise. But follow the law and be honest. Shouldn't be that tough.
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Just because you serve a niche doesnt mean you are necessary or moral. Seigel Suites is the Payday Loan of weekly rentals. I have a family member that has been trapped in the "weekly" rut for the better part of 20 years and has paid more in rent than the mortgage on my 4,000 sq foot 5 bed/3 1/2 bath home.
I know of Seigel Suites' illegal lock-out process. Don't pay your rent, instead of a legally required pay-or-quit and complaint for summary eviction, Seigel Suites will do an immediate lock-out of the delinquent tenant by re-programming the apartment's electronic locks. No notice, no due process, no nuttin.
Yes, Seigel Suites provides a necessary niche service ("food for bedbugs" is the niche they serve), but I think the laws are supposed to apply to Seigel Suites.
The Strip is the engine that feeds all of us, directly or indirectly. We should all be concerned when vagrants, ne'er do wells and petty criminals are making tourists feel unsafe. I am for aggressively sweeping these people off the Strip by any legal means necessary. Surely we are not going to self-immolate by prioritizing the rights of these people to be on the Strip over the economic interests of the entire city. I say this as someone who normally cheers the ACLU on.
So, civil rights only apply when it allegedly protects your golden calf: "tourism".
I was born, raised and educated here and I have, of late, begun to hate this town and state.
We have one of the top ten highest rates of homelessness per capita in this city. In cities with real winters, the city/state has to shelter them because they freeze to death in winter if they aren't sheltered. Here the government entities get away with not sheltering people because while our weather might be uncomfortable, you don't generally die outside here. There is a tremendous amount of money flowing in this city. There is absolutely no reason for our homeless issue to be as bad as it is. Years ago Utah effectively ended involuntary homelessness and found that actually housing the population reduced medical and law enforcement expenses (amongst others). Also, by housing people, services can be centralized. Social workers and rehab counselors can find and maintain contact with housed individuals, get them clean and get them enrolled in job programs. Utah's right wing legislature has stopped funding the programs, but the data is still there. We already have strong entry-level jobs programs in this city through the unions. We have the money if we wanted to put it to use. There is simply no excuse for the homelessness in this city to be as bad as it is. It is cruelty, plain and simple. A big portion of our homeless folks could be working, contributing members of the community if they could just get a foothold.
Uh – yea….you know I, hate this town and state, uh, if you gonna cause trouble on the strip you better be grate – full, that I don't smack yo azz, outta here, to the next town, cuz trobuble on the strip, yo I ain't down.
"So, civil rights only apply when it allegedly protects your golden calf: "tourism"."
It's not a golden calf, it's the goose that lays the golden egg. Hey, let's let every vagrant onto the Strip and drive away tourists. In the end, the only thing that matters is that we protected the civil liberties of aggressive pan handlers and street performers.
No.
Clean it up, push them off the Strip. A good solution to this is to just deed the sidewalks and rights of way to the casinos. Private property, problem solved. Now the Constitution is not only not an impediment, it's a tool we can use in the clean up.
The vagrants are not going to likely be banned from the Strip. The ban is a separate issue from the homelessness problem. No doubt we are headed he way of San Francisco in many respects.
You will miss me when I am gone.
@10:46 the 9th already ruled on that idea…several years ago. Not that this is a law blog or anything, but sure. 1A for the win.
We should do what Reno did. It seems to be working great for them. https://360newslasvegas.com/360-news-undercover-expose-of-renos-dangerously-failed-homeless-program/
@10:38 – I'm genuinely interested in learning more about what Utah did. Do you have a cite to anything that would have data, etc.?
1:41 – this is a decent start: https://www.npr.org/2015/12/10/459100751/utah-reduced-chronic-homelessness-by-91-percent-heres-how
It's pretty legit
@1:46 (who is presumably @10:38) – many thanks for this.
the real problem is that Las Vegas has been operating like a small town. after the boom and semi bust of 2005-2009, Vegas has slowly realized that its not a small town anymore, and must change the way it does things. However, many locals resist the change needed to adapt to this place being a proper big city. We want sports teams, but not to help incentivize them to come. we want better education, but not raise property taxes to fund them. We want cleaner streets, but wont enact measures to have them. although through much complaining we have achieve some measure of progression, Vegas has a long way to go before we run things like other similarly sized big cities (Portland, SLC, Denver, Austin, St Louis, Indianapolis, etc)
Shining examples of what Vegas can become.
11:45 AM–Better education–raise taxes. Have been in this town for over 40 years and they have been complaining about the education system/funding for forever. We have thrown more money at the CCSD and elsewhere and it has not helped at all. Raising property taxes won't help except add to inflation and higher housing costs. The system is broken beyond repair. Money will only make the problem worse because it has not helped. The School District gets everything they need and then some but has nothing to show for it. Reason: Wasteful spending. Top heavy management. Lets let everybody get stoned on pot and improve education with funding. Ain't gonna happen.
Defund CCSD!
@12:03 you undermine your point with the weird comment about getting stoned. That has nothing to do with CCSD. Makes you sound like a bitter old boomer. Don't do that. CCSD is a hot mess. You're right – it's top heavy, bloated, and ineffective. But that has nothing to do with getting stoned on the pot.
12:11PM–Getting stoned misses the point. All the dough from legalized pot was supposed to solve the education problem in Vegas with more money. Was being facetious. The point is raising the sales tax and creative funding has not solved CCSDs problems. Mismanagement. Wasteful spending. Too many tiers of management.
Best way to fix the issue. Split up CCSD into smaller sub-parts. Most other school districts do not cover nearly as many schools as CCSD does.
3:12 PM–Split up CCSD into smaller parts. The Legislature authorized that and it never happened. What they need to do is to offer vouchers so parents and children can chose their schools. The teachers union and the School District don't want this because it would bring an end to their government funded monopoly.
"We have thrown money at CCSD." Nevada has the second lowest per-student spending in the country. Money isn't a panacea but it's simply wrong to say that properly funding our schools has failed. We've never tried.
We don't have to try. Where has throwing money at the problem worked. There's a documentary about NY schools showing resolutions without additional funding. A lack of parent involvement and discipline at home are two issues money won't solve, but vouchers will allow parents who actually care to get their kids into a better school.
Vouchers and charter schools just divert money away from public schools. The right has been trying to privatize the mail, SS, medicaid, and education for decades now. Vouchers are a scam. We should fund public schools and scrap the CCSD administration.
Money is never the solution. All it does is get diverted to admin and bureaucratic fluff, never to the students. Vouchers are just plain equitable. Why should my property taxes be sent to a system that that I choose to bypass by homeschooling or private schools? As for the charter schools of today, they are just public schools with uniforms. Gone are the days of charter schools being worth a damn.
Money is never the solution? Hahaha Ok. Go ask the smartest college grads why they don't want to be teachers. Only people with money say it's not the solution. Your property taxes should fund education because you live in this community and it is your obligation. The amish pay property taxes that fund public schools that they don't use – you can too. Charter schools are NOT public schools. They self-select the best students so their numbers look better than public schools. Reality is that they just take the best, smartest, wealthiest students and exclude disabled children and children with behavior problems. I do not have children and I am happy for my taxes to fund public education.
The Class of 2020/21 PDs strike again. Watching them learn civil law on the fly has been nothing short of amazing.
I am with you. When I read the story in the RJ about Trujillo ruling on the case, I pictured a little league umpire calling balls and strikes in Dodger Stadium.
Watching the hatred on this blog against the 2020 judges is what has been nothing short of amazing. For years, judges like Kephart and Smith made absolutely garbage rulings in civil cases and no one batted an eye or blamed their gender or the fact that they were former DAs.
But a handful (yes, handful) of female PD judges is elected in and suddenly every decision is wrong simply because they are “Part of the 2020 class” and is attributed to their former employment.
Trujillo wasn’t the first judge to rule against the city on this issue. Tim Williams was. So, is it “Tim Williams strikes again?” Is he also a little league umpire making calls in Dodger Stadium?
Or do you only have a problem with the ruling if a female former PD made it?
Don't be ridiculous. Both Doug and Kep have been vilified for years on this blog.
The "Class of 2020" is an anomaly of election shenanigans involving LILI voters that control our destinies. Its horseshit and needs to change.
Smith and Kephart were absolutely (rightly) pilloried. But we have an entire slate elected together that rises and falls together. No one is saying Yeager falls in that category. I am not blaming Trujillo's gender. I am blaming the absolutely mind-numbing rulings that she makes (this is not the first or only case where her is subject of scrutiny).
The point is Kephart and Smith were spoken of as individuals. People didn’t refer to every bad decision they made as the “male DAs” striking again.
It’s fine to have issues with judges making bad rulings, but lumping them all together is ridiculous and has become a common practice around the courthouse.
They shouldn’t “rise and fall together.” Some of them are good, some of them are bad, just like all the other judges.
Smith wasn’t a DA
I too am a rare one that was born here in 1958, was raised here, went to unlv undergrad, and work here as an attorney. I too am very sad for what the state has become. It could’ve been better. Just my humble two cents.
Exactly why I am implementing my exit strategy. Currently, eyeing opportunities in Phoenix and even Oklahoma. Went to law school there in the 90s.
1:07 back, good luck friend, I’m looking into s Utah myself
Florida, North Carolina, and Utah are all on my radar for relocation out of Nevada.
Here right now! And i think half of las vegas ex pats are in Pine Valley and Duck Creek now
So. Utah is a zoo! Traffic is unbearable. I love it there, but I can't move there.
St George is getting bad but the outskirts are still fine – anywhere north towards cedar city or towards Zion is still great
I can't live in Utah. The women are too hot, so I wouldn't be able to get any work done. Distractions.
Can't live in Utah-9:36 AM-because I would lose ten per cent of my income. Besides that there is not enough legal work in Utah and too many BYU and U of U grads. But they have an easy bar. So does Nevada now.
9:36: Don't forget the menfolk. Dreamy.
I don't know. But there are some hot men at my local chickfila who work there whoa
I have sincerely enjoyed the last two days of monsoon storms. The air is fresh and cooler. Hoping the meteorologists are correct that we have a chance of another monsoon today. Fingers crossed.
I finally got around to reading the Administrative Agency opinion by SCOTUS. The Gorsuch and Alito concurrence was a treat. Footnote 1 distills the argument perfectly. When I was young and dumb, I was also an elitist who thought I knew better than the masses. Now, older and wiser, I realize this is not the case at all, and that people should be free to choose.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-1530_new_l537.pdf