Mine too. The journalist had fun crafting this sentence: After determining who owned the property, officers cross-referenced a phone number associated with Ho and discovered multiple online advertisements for prostitution with Asian females, the report said.
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Anonymous
August 26, 2022 6:35 pm
Trump warrant redacted released. Upshot: it's even worse than speculated. Those law commenters that predicted neither classified dispute nor Presidential Records Act were at issue proven badly wrong. (Certain law tubers come to mind). Upshot: Trump sent 15 boxes to the Archives on request (though he didn't legally have to), and they used what was in those records to claim some sort of crime in ever having the records in the first place. That's really it. That's the legal pretext for the warrant. What a joke.
I read the released affidavit. Seems to me that substantial cooperation was acknowledged, including sequestering documents in specific locations at the request of the FBI/DOJ. Even though the affidavit claims personal knowledge, there seemed to be a lot of hearsay.
A more even handed approach would have been to subpoena, or accept Trump's invitation to come on over and look around, as has been reported.
I still have the sense that this smells of jackboots and long leather coats.
Setting aside the legality of the libertarian candidate's eligibility for AG, the real story is that Chattah blew the deadline to object to the liberterian AG candidate by a matter of months. Nevada bar admission is a matter of public record. Isn't this sort of basic background research into your opponent the first thing you would do as a candidate? Aren't deadlines important to attorneys? What does her failure to timely object in this circumstance say about how well she would run the AGs office? If she repeats this sloppy performance as AG, will she shift blame to others the way her lawsuit reportedly does here, instead of taking responsibility for her own failure to do basic background research and timely object?
I think the basic fact that Trump claimed to give back all the documents, and then the FBI went and found another 15 boxes of classified material, shows that cooperation was certainly not "ongoing."
>On June 3, Bobb and Corcoran [Trump's lawyers] met with a senior Justice Department official and three FBI agents, turning over the records they had gathered. “We turned over everything that we found,” Bobb told Fox News host Laura Ingraham earlier this month.
>Around that time, Corcoran and Bobb together provided the Justice Department with a written assurance about Trump having returned classified materials, a person familiar with the matter said. The person did not provide the specific wording of the letter, which was signed by Bobb
>Trump’s lawyers said in their court filing that following the June 3 meeting, the FBI conducted another round of interviews with personal and household staff to Trump.
>On June 22, the Justice Department handed a new subpoena to the Trump Organization, which owns Mar-a-Lago. The subpoena sought surveillance video to help show who might have been coming and going from the storage area where Corcoran and Bobb had indicated boxes of records taken from the White House were being stored.
I mean, you tell me – is the guy really acting in good faith if he's making the government issue multiple subpoenas and contact his lawyers multiple times to retrieve these documents? How hard is it to just give them back? Regardless of any declassification argument, the documents belong to the government, not the former president.
Did someone get unredacted copies? How can we make judgments on the validity of issuing the warrant based on the affidavit when most of the relevant portions of the affidavit are redacted? It's possible that there is nothing there but it's also possible that it makes clear the search warrant was necessary.
@4:28, don't worry, he voluntarily locked the storage room where the documents were in June 2022 after he was asked to (please disregard that they had been there since Jan 2021)
I would just like to see what is in one Mara Lago trash can.
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August 26, 2022 8:13 pm
Re: @12:42p Chattah/AG. If the requirement to be a candidate for AG is be a licensed attorney in Nevada, why isn't the Secretary of State requiring that condition to be met before placing the candidate on the ballot? Why is it up to the other candidates to object to someone listed on the ballot? If that non-attorney was elected AG and they have to be a NV licensed attorney, then they'll never be able to sit in the position as AG and we'll have completely wasted an election. Are you saying that the NV Secretary of State should not be required to check eligibility of a candidate to be on the ballot and the other candidates are required to do so?
I had the same reaction as 1:13. Ballots are long since printed and the General Election is just a little over two months from now.
A somewhat similar issue, which appears to have ben dealt with a lot more efficiently and a lot more timely than this matter is being dealt with, is the issue of an attorney not being licensed long enough to run for certain judicial seats. Usually this information was ferreted out before the candidate signed up, and they thus were precluded from signing up, or it was discovered very shortly thereafter. In a couple borderline close call cases(such as clarifying whether someone is truly licensed for a full ten years, or was it more like a nine year licensing period) an opponent mounted a successful challenge very soon after the sign up period ended, and long before ballots were printed.
So, if Chattah is right about the current situation, why are we only discovering it now?
That all said, although I am not necessarily a huge Chattah fan, nor am I delighted with some of her campaign statements and representations, I totally agree with her strategy. This could be a real close race, and the Libertarian candidate is far more likely to siphon more votes from the republican candidate than from the democrat incumbent.
It is not the SOS's job to check qualifications. The role is ministerial; her job is to file the paperwork if it is correctly filled out and the correct fee is paid.
There is a statutory process for filing a challenge to the qualifications of a candidate. See NRS 293.182. So, yes, it really is up to private citizens to investigate a candidate's qualifications.
As 12:42 mentions, usually one's opponent is more than happy to do so. Chattah dropped the ball. (And now we will all have to suffer through it when she loses and she tries to make this into some nonsense election fraud / corruption conspiracy theory.)
@ 1:13, those are fair points, and as I said, I was setting aside the legality of the non-attorney candidate. I'll assume he shouldn't be on the ballot. My point is not that the SoS shouldn't verify a candidate's qualifications, but simply that looking into bar status is pretty basic candidate opposition research which is a matter of public record, and deadlines are important to attorneys. One would think blowing a deadline by several months says a lot about the level of preparation, work, and commitment Chattah would bring to the AG's office if elected. If Chattah wants to pass the buck and say it wasn't her responsibility to do some digging on the candidates in her own race, and use that buck-passing an excuse for objecting months after the deadline when all of the information she needed to object was readily available, maybe she just doesn't have what it takes to be in a position of authority.
Kind of like purging deceased / moved voters from the rolls. By cross checking with Vital Records and DMV. Not brain surgery.
But, also "Not My Job"
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August 26, 2022 8:37 pm
Why do the short male attorneys in this town have to make it so damn obvious that their whiny and bitchy attitudes are part of their overcompensating? It’s really embarrassing. Buy some lifts for your overpriced shoes and sack it up, Fellas.
200? My ex-wife had that beat.
Mine too. The journalist had fun crafting this sentence: After determining who owned the property, officers cross-referenced a phone number associated with Ho and discovered multiple online advertisements for prostitution with Asian females, the report said.
Trump warrant redacted released. Upshot: it's even worse than speculated. Those law commenters that predicted neither classified dispute nor Presidential Records Act were at issue proven badly wrong. (Certain law tubers come to mind). Upshot: Trump sent 15 boxes to the Archives on request (though he didn't legally have to), and they used what was in those records to claim some sort of crime in ever having the records in the first place. That's really it. That's the legal pretext for the warrant. What a joke.
Obvious political attack, one step closer to the third world, FBI weaponized, truly staggering
So it is exactly what you MAGA guys have been bitching about prosecuting Hilary for for years then? I totally understand your outrage…
So the FBI planted all of the documents that were marked Top Secret or SCI?
Or Trump is allowed to just have those hanging out at his house?
@Ben
Do these records = Classified and deleted emails?
I think not.
I read the released affidavit. Seems to me that substantial cooperation was acknowledged, including sequestering documents in specific locations at the request of the FBI/DOJ. Even though the affidavit claims personal knowledge, there seemed to be a lot of hearsay.
A more even handed approach would have been to subpoena, or accept Trump's invitation to come on over and look around, as has been reported.
I still have the sense that this smells of jackboots and long leather coats.
Yeah. Not sure this affidavit warranted a raid. Cooperation seems to have been ongoing.
Ben, you know the MAGA is always right.
Setting aside the legality of the libertarian candidate's eligibility for AG, the real story is that Chattah blew the deadline to object to the liberterian AG candidate by a matter of months. Nevada bar admission is a matter of public record. Isn't this sort of basic background research into your opponent the first thing you would do as a candidate? Aren't deadlines important to attorneys? What does her failure to timely object in this circumstance say about how well she would run the AGs office? If she repeats this sloppy performance as AG, will she shift blame to others the way her lawsuit reportedly does here, instead of taking responsibility for her own failure to do basic background research and timely object?
I think the basic fact that Trump claimed to give back all the documents, and then the FBI went and found another 15 boxes of classified material, shows that cooperation was certainly not "ongoing."
@12:24 – There was a grand jury subpoena Trump's team accepted on May 11 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/23/trump-records-mar-a-lago-fbi/)
>On June 3, Bobb and Corcoran [Trump's lawyers] met with a senior Justice Department official and three FBI agents, turning over the records they had gathered. “We turned over everything that we found,” Bobb told Fox News host Laura Ingraham earlier this month.
>Around that time, Corcoran and Bobb together provided the Justice Department with a written assurance about Trump having returned classified materials, a person familiar with the matter said. The person did not provide the specific wording of the letter, which was signed by Bobb
>Trump’s lawyers said in their court filing that following the June 3 meeting, the FBI conducted another round of interviews with personal and household staff to Trump.
>On June 22, the Justice Department handed a new subpoena to the Trump Organization, which owns Mar-a-Lago. The subpoena sought surveillance video to help show who might have been coming and going from the storage area where Corcoran and Bobb had indicated boxes of records taken from the White House were being stored.
I mean, you tell me – is the guy really acting in good faith if he's making the government issue multiple subpoenas and contact his lawyers multiple times to retrieve these documents? How hard is it to just give them back? Regardless of any declassification argument, the documents belong to the government, not the former president.
LMAO. Like we don't do that every day.
Did someone get unredacted copies? How can we make judgments on the validity of issuing the warrant based on the affidavit when most of the relevant portions of the affidavit are redacted? It's possible that there is nothing there but it's also possible that it makes clear the search warrant was necessary.
12:46 stop confusing the MAGAs with facts. It gets in the way of their jackboot metaphors.
Its all fun and games until the MAGAs are running the show. More like Red Hats and Lucchese's than jackboots.
Nah, nothing concerning about him having the docs at Mar-A-Lago with a Russian spy having run of the place.
@4:28, don't worry, he voluntarily locked the storage room where the documents were in June 2022 after he was asked to (please disregard that they had been there since Jan 2021)
I would just like to see what is in one Mara Lago trash can.
Re: @12:42p Chattah/AG. If the requirement to be a candidate for AG is be a licensed attorney in Nevada, why isn't the Secretary of State requiring that condition to be met before placing the candidate on the ballot? Why is it up to the other candidates to object to someone listed on the ballot? If that non-attorney was elected AG and they have to be a NV licensed attorney, then they'll never be able to sit in the position as AG and we'll have completely wasted an election. Are you saying that the NV Secretary of State should not be required to check eligibility of a candidate to be on the ballot and the other candidates are required to do so?
I had the same reaction as 1:13. Ballots are long since printed and the General Election is just a little over two months from now.
A somewhat similar issue, which appears to have ben dealt with a lot more efficiently and a lot more timely than this matter is being dealt with, is the issue of an attorney not being licensed long enough to run for certain judicial seats. Usually this information was ferreted out before the candidate signed up, and they thus were precluded from signing up, or it was discovered very shortly thereafter. In a couple borderline close call cases(such as clarifying whether someone is truly licensed for a full ten years, or was it more like a nine year licensing period) an opponent mounted a successful challenge very soon after the sign up period ended, and long before ballots were printed.
So, if Chattah is right about the current situation, why are we only discovering it now?
That all said, although I am not necessarily a huge Chattah fan, nor am I delighted with some of her campaign statements and representations, I totally agree with her strategy. This could be a real close race, and the Libertarian candidate is far more likely to siphon more votes from the republican candidate than from the democrat incumbent.
And pointing the finger at the SoS is only going to elicit the standard:
"We don't have the budget for that! So, we couldn't do that background if we wanted to."
–SoS BC
It is not the SOS's job to check qualifications. The role is ministerial; her job is to file the paperwork if it is correctly filled out and the correct fee is paid.
There is a statutory process for filing a challenge to the qualifications of a candidate. See NRS 293.182. So, yes, it really is up to private citizens to investigate a candidate's qualifications.
As 12:42 mentions, usually one's opponent is more than happy to do so. Chattah dropped the ball. (And now we will all have to suffer through it when she loses and she tries to make this into some nonsense election fraud / corruption conspiracy theory.)
@ 1:13, those are fair points, and as I said, I was setting aside the legality of the non-attorney candidate. I'll assume he shouldn't be on the ballot. My point is not that the SoS shouldn't verify a candidate's qualifications, but simply that looking into bar status is pretty basic candidate opposition research which is a matter of public record, and deadlines are important to attorneys. One would think blowing a deadline by several months says a lot about the level of preparation, work, and commitment Chattah would bring to the AG's office if elected. If Chattah wants to pass the buck and say it wasn't her responsibility to do some digging on the candidates in her own race, and use that buck-passing an excuse for objecting months after the deadline when all of the information she needed to object was readily available, maybe she just doesn't have what it takes to be in a position of authority.
Kind of like purging deceased / moved voters from the rolls. By cross checking with Vital Records and DMV. Not brain surgery.
But, also "Not My Job"
Why do the short male attorneys in this town have to make it so damn obvious that their whiny and bitchy attitudes are part of their overcompensating? It’s really embarrassing. Buy some lifts for your overpriced shoes and sack it up, Fellas.
Daaayyuummmm!
This is actually true. Could name several myself.
Are you discussing male attorneys 5'8" or less, or are you setting the bar even lower–like 5'6" or less, or even 5'4" or less?
@150 here.
5'6" is my bar.
@3:02, I think 5’8” and less is Napoleon range. Heeeeyyyy Shawty!!
Say their names!! Hobbit Call Out in 3-2-1…
Justice Silver is retiring. Wonder why.
I wish Elissa Cadish would.
Good
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/silver-resigning-from-nevada-supreme-court-2630354
Maybe Sisolak will appoint a DETR hearing master,or his wife,Kathi?
How sad. I sure hope Justice Silver is ok. What a legacy, to be so well liked and reach such great heights. She will missed.
Cue Fumo.
Who is behind emerge now?