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One of our readers wants your input on making friends in the legal profession. How do lawyers make new friends? Do you rely on your coworkers to become your friends? Are you still friends with your classmates from law school? When was the last time you made a new friend? Any tips on how to go about finding a new friend in the legal profession? Should you avoid being friends with lawyers? What about judges, any tips for them? Do you recommendations change for someone who has lived here a long time versus someone who just moved here?
These are the places where I have found friends: Church, friends of friends, political organizations, civic organizations, neighbors, clients, other professionals. The more you interact with others, the more friends you’ll make. There’s no secret formula. Just be proactive and put yourself out there.
I tend to not really hang out with lawyers outside of work. Frankly we spend enough time at work and nine times out of ten the conversation goes to law,,,, which i am usually trying to avoid when i’m not in our offices. I made most of my ‘new friends’ from the gym,, not like a ‘big box’ but the smaller crossfit/raw fitness type situations.
New friends,,, I have made friends with parents of my kids friends at school. The kids are young so it’s not at the point of just dropping them off at places.
The only real friend is an old friend.
Make new friends, but keep the old;
Those are silver, these are gold.
New-made friendships, like new wine,
Age will mellow and refine.
Friendships that have stood the test—
Time and change—are surely best;
Brow may wrinkle, hair grow gray,
Friendship never knows decay.
For ‘mid old friends, tried and true,
Once more we our youth renew.
But old friends, alas! may die,
New friends must their place supply.
Cherish friendship in your breast—
New is good, but old is best;
Make new friends, but keep the old;
Those are silver, these are gold.
– Joseph Parry
Seems like the Boydsters have all the friends they need from Bishop Gorman, UNLV undergrad and UNLV Law classmates It is the transplants who are open to make new friends. Boyd UNLV followed its path of becoming the dominant alumni. They have their own groups and often shy away from other organizations. So if you are going to make new friends it will be with the transplants who are not as connected to the community as the in grown “Born and Raised” crowd.
The law school I attended dominated the metro it’s located in. If you didn’t go to that school, you are probably not going to work in that metro. That’s typical. What’s not typical is Boyd’s very weak, very passive relationship with the Vegas legal labor market. It was super easy to come here, nobody cared that I didn’t go to Boyd. Boyd doesn’t even have a faint control of this market, much less “dominant.” My firm regularly hires new grads, nobody from Boyd career services has ever reached out to us. So we continue to hire from out of state.
So many judges now are Boyd alum. They have their own placement site and a lot of positions never get advertised/recruited outside the Boyd network.
The bench bar meeting mailing list is on the verge of a Reply-Allapololypse. I am hoping this happens.
*Allpocalypse
Share the deets!
The Zoom did not work. Thats all it was.
Oh. Well that’s anticlimactic. Par for the course.
I want zero to do with any of the peckers from law school. That includes the alleged professors.
alleged. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Make friends with lawyers outside your practice area. Give freely of your advice. Find good attorneys to refer your clients to and they’ll return the favor. Don’t be a dick to opposing counsel. Cuss a lot in the elevators at the RJC. It lets people know you’re cool.
Let’s see. You could go to a mixer with about 500 judges and pillars of the legal community, attend a Golden Knight’s game with other members of the bar, do a bar crawl with lawyers, bankers, and legal service providers, attend a lunch time CLE (for free), volunteer for a Law Day activity, do a 5k on a team comprised of members of the legal community, help feed the homeless, judge a moot court competition at UNLV, attend a holiday mixer, go to a luncheon and hear the lawyers who shaped the legal community tell their stories, join a sub-committee to make all these things happen. All this and more are available to you with the Clark County Bar Association – The Fun Bar!
https://clarkcountybar.org/
Observation: The people that attend the things described are “climbers” reaching for political ambition or their next job, or if an older attorney or judge, believing that they are basking in the sunshine of their imagined greatness.
No thanks.
Bar Humbug.
Not sure how recent this is, but looks like Eglet Adams is now
“Eglet, Adams, Ham, Eglet, Henriod”
Congrats to Mr. Ham and Mr. Henriod on the new partnership!
Ham and other Eglet have already been partners.
I find friends through swinger clubs and my drug dealer.
Erica is a partner but still not part of firm name.
Tracy comes 3rd, not fourth. (Eglet Adams Eglet Ham Henriod). The change is only about a month old.
Art Ham has been there for year so is finally getting recognition.
It is nice to see Erica getting some credit. She survived several purges.
Who is Joel Henriod? There are a few new faces on their website so there was another purge.
Dennis Prince was their real trial attorney but he’s better on his own.
He was at Lewis Roca.
Joel was Dan Polsenberg’s protoge for years. He’s an appellate specialist.
Years
No no no . Tracy always comes first.
Art has been a partner but not a part of firm name.
For you young lawyers this firm has a long list of former partners. The Taylor Swift of law firms:
We should have a contest to see how many formers partners you can name. I recall Wall, Christiansen, Prince and maybe Cottle?
Sylvestri?
Mainor
Weren’t they once part of Richard Harris?
It started as Mainor Harris. Randy split over some issues with Rick and it became Mainor Eglet Cottle. Randy died and Cottle left. Silvestri was ever part of this Eglet firm. I don’t even think they were partners when Eglet did defense work way back in the day.
Eglet was with Prince for awhile and they broke up. In 2015 or 2016 they went back together but then split up again.
Eglet and Harris then had a very messy split.
*Mainor Harris
“Pyatt & Eglet” became “Pyatt Eglet & Sylvestri” around 1996-97ish. Prince was an associate with that firm. Another associate jumped off the Hoover Dam – I think the guy’s name was Mike something. Sad.
Michael Keahey? He went to Duke. So tragic.
I was a friend of Mike. So smart and funny in his own way. A truly great person. I remember the day I learned he passed away. Still like a knife to the heart to me to this day. His death happened when I was a fairly young lawyer, and it taught me about what can happen to even an elite, seemingly well adjusted attorney.
Richard Harris and Eglet engaged in some very public litigation over the breakup of Mainor & Harris. Also, Brad Mainor’s departure was a bit dicey.
And they don’t typically end well for anyone but Eglet. He really is the king of the universe. Gotta admire the guy.
Dennis Prince is doing just fine. Of course, it helps that he is a solid trial attorney.
Hi Dennis 👋
Not Dennis. Just giving the man the respect he has earned.
He’s not doing fine, he can’t even afford socks.
What an active thread! 😅
I was kind of hoping that it would devolve into a discussion of the Boyd Grads Friendship Universal Network (BGFUN©) but, alas, I have thus far, been disappointed.
Just talk about Eglet and you will get comments. The clan will just say everyone is jealous but a lot of people got burned along the way.
For meeting attorneys I’ve found that volunteering at moot court competitions makes it easy to meet new folks. I get to meet a variety of practitioners that I otherwise wouldn’t encounter in my daily practice. Attending CLE conferences for my practice area has been good too. For friends, it’s usually just colleagues (and friends of colleagues they call out to go eat or drink with us) and parents of my kids’ friends.
This blog started out about making friends and then turned to the Eglet clan. How ironic. It never ends well (but ultimately ends better) and many of those former partners considered them friends. They found out what ruthless really means.
Bravo for Dennis Prince. They put him through the meat grinder.
Oh wait. Did you hear about the associate they fired by text on his honeymoon?
I like Dennis personally. On the one hand, I understand him going back a second time due to the money and involvement in really big cases. On the other hand, Dennis was not shy to talk about what it was like practicing with Bob the first time when they were Eglet Price, ID lawyers.
Reminds me of that scene in “The Departed.”
Billy Costigan: [in Costello’s bar] Frank, how many of these guys have been with you long enough to be disgruntled, huh? Think about it. You don’t pay much, you know. It’s almost a fuckin’ feudal enterprise. The question is, and this is the only question, who thinks that they can do what you do better than you?
Frank Costello: The only one that can do what I do is me. Lot of people had to die for me to be me. You wanna be me?
Billy Costigan: I probably could be you, yeah. Yeah, I know that much. But I don’t wanna be you, Frank. I don’t wanna be you
Frank Costello: Heavy lies the crown… sort of thing.
Perfect
This scene is on YouTube I just watched it.