Forget About Worship And Head For The Slot Machine

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  • A new administrative order 20-23 tightens up the Eighth Judicial District Court’s COVID safety protocols and continues any jury trials set to begin before November 30. [eighthjdcourt blog]
  • The CCSD school board tabled the decision on whether to return to hybrid in-person/distance education. [TNI]
  • Governor Sisolak named J. Brin Gibson as the new chairman of the Nevada Gaming Control Board. [Las Vegas Sun
  • Short term rental owners threaten lawsuit against City of Henderson. [Nevada Current]
  • Justice Alito says the pandemic has resulted in “unimaginable” restrictions on individual liberty and is particularly perturbed by Governor Sisolak’s directive that allowed more people in a a casino than a church. [Washington Post]
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November 13, 2020 6:14 pm

Is there an estimated start date for when civil jury trials will resume in the District Court? I know that some US District Courts and other states are not having jury trials until end of the March 2021 at the earliest.

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November 13, 2020 6:33 pm

This is completely unacceptable! What's the point of voting when all of our safeguards to ensure election integrity are stripped away?

https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/opinion-columns/victor-joecks/victor-joecks-clark-county-election-officials-accepted-my-signature-on-8-ballot-envelopes-2182390/

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November 13, 2020 6:40 pm
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There is no fraud. 2 + 2 = 5. Get it straight.

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November 13, 2020 7:22 pm
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This is a stupid article about a stupid experiment, and you should feel stupid for posting it here. All it does is sow unfounded fear about the election, without providing any evidence or comparison b/w the signatures.

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November 13, 2020 7:25 pm
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Deeply, deeply stupid.

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November 13, 2020 7:47 pm
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Can you point out the flaws with this experiment without summarily saying it is stupid? There were no human checks on mail-in signatures. This is deeply concerning to anyone who values fair elections. Apparently, you don't care as long as your side wins.

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November 13, 2020 8:39 pm
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I'm happy to address it as long as you stop talking out of your ass. What makes you think there's no human check on mail-in signatures? Through court testimony it was revealed that 70% of signatures are checked by humans because the machine Clark County uses to verify signatures accepts only 30%.

Also, the flaws in the experiment are apparent on their face. Why isn't their a comparison b/w the voter's original/typical signature and Mr. Joecks's imitation signature? Why isn't there a comparison b/w Mr. Joecks's imitation signature and the voter's imitation of that imitation signature? Who are these voters? Did they have an ulterior motive when they took the volitional step of "trying" to imitate Joecks's imitation signature? Why are these 10 voters representative of the electorate as a whole? These are all question that should've been answered by Mr. Joecks if he wanted people to take his "experiment" seriously.

I value fair elections, I care, ~and my side won. Nice try, though.

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November 13, 2020 9:08 pm
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At the very least we should have had pictures of the real signature, Joecks' fake signature and the voter's own fake signature. None of us are handwriting experts but at least we could have tried to judge for ourselves whether the ballot should have been rejected. As it stands, "ballot signed by appropriate person was accepted" doesn't tell us much.

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November 13, 2020 10:01 pm
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Joeck said that he signed the names in his own normal handwriting. It should be presumed that his signature is not a match for the real one.

And no, 12:39 – you couldn't care less about fair elections. For you, the ends justify the means.

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November 13, 2020 10:23 pm
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2:01, why are you presuming? That's part of the weakness of the "experiment." Also, interesting that you're willing to "presume" so long as it fits your conclusion.

And no, you are wrong about me.

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November 13, 2020 11:36 pm
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Why am I presuming? Because there is ZERO chance that if I sign someone else's name in my own handwriting – especially without seeing the other persons' signatures – that the signatures will match. It's not difficult to figure one that out.

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November 13, 2020 11:47 pm
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@2:01pm – No – Joeck said on a separate piece of paper he signed those people's names then gave the paper that person and that person (whose actual ballot it was) then copied over Joeck's signed version so that it would not be a crime with Joeck actually having signed the ballots. The issue I have (and I voted for Trump and think there are some voter fraud issues) is that the person copying over the signature still could have altered it so it looks like the person's own handwriting unintentionally. So yes, I would want to see what Joeck wrote and what the person/voter copied onto their ballot before sending it in, and what the person's actual signature was, to see how off the signature was – before I pass judgment on this.

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November 13, 2020 6:33 pm

Justice Alito is spot on.

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November 13, 2020 7:31 pm

Governor Sisolak's approach to the pandemic has been inconsistent and incongruous. And I say that as someone who favors more aggressive legal interventions on behalf of public health.

The biggest mistake he made was placing restrictions on churches while allowing casinos to open. This has, justifiably, drawn scorn from Justices Gorsuch and Alito. And we know why the Governor did this. Casinos, as a practical matter, HAD to eventually open for economic reasons. This means that, constitutionally, churches should have had restrictions no greater than a casino.

The better approach would have been to set the same standard for both, then approach Churches, one by one, and ask them to voluntarily restrict attendance. I am LDS, and many stakes in the valley imposed restrictions greater than what the State of Nevada did. I would guess that the LDS Church and Catholic churches would have voluntarily cooperated. True, some independent churches wouldn't have.

But this inconsistency did more damage than anything else to undermine Governor Sisolak's coronavirus policies.

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November 13, 2020 8:44 pm
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The biggest fraud on society is not the little experiment by Victor Joecks[ster]. It is religion — Period! Get a clue, people: There! Is! No! God! The only reason people follow religion is for the most selfish of reasons: It gratifies their egos and makes them feel better about themselves. The only reason the powerful promote religion is that it is a great way to manipulate the foolish masses, lemmings ready to run over a cliff in search of their "god." Religion would not survive a Daubert challenge, and yet I'm appalled at how many attorneys believe in a god. Do they leave their brains in the office when they return home?

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November 13, 2020 8:57 pm
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Ego gratifcation and satisfying one's needs are the reason for almost every human endeavor.

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November 13, 2020 9:17 pm
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Especially including the endeavor of posting anonymous insults to your fellow attorneys.

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November 13, 2020 9:18 pm
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@12:44 what makes you so sure? It seems to me like the only thing we really know for certain is that we eventually will die. Other than that, life is just a guessing game. It seems to me that there is just as good of a chance there is some sorta god?

And even if there isn't, religious people tend to live longer and report being happier, so seems like it isn't a bad bet.

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November 13, 2020 11:01 pm
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12:44 – yeah, dude, uh – or (gal?) – our entire world revolves around some form of religion. Why so angry? Also, haven't you seen Miracle on 34th street? If Santa can win at trial, religion can survive Daubert.

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November 13, 2020 11:17 pm
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12:44 PM,

11:31 AM.

I can't imagine what it would be like to be so upset and "appalled" that other people have a different opinion than mine as to the existence of God. Disagree, fine. But to be "appalled" and so upset? I don't get it.

There are many very valid arguments against the existence of God and organized religion. I happen to choose to believe in God, but I acknowledge He/She may not exist.

You have a view of religious motive that is both inaccurate and uncharitable. Religion can provide a community where we mourn with those that mourn, and stand with those that stand in need of comfort. This way, nobody in the community stands alone in their darkest hour. This past week, my Bishop sent out an email letting us know we have families in our ward who are going to need financial assistance this Christmas. I'm grateful we can come together as a ward family to support each other in times like this. Religion can provide a common purpose, whether it is to build an ideal society, to feed the hungry or provide programming for youth. Religion can provide community, scripture and meetings that help us grow and improve.

If religion is not for you, that's OK. I don't get upset about it. But I think you should be a little more honest in your assessment of why people participate in religion. In so doing, I think you'll better understand why Justice Alito, Justice Gorsuch and many others were so upset by what Governor Sisolak did. In a time of crisis, when people need their religious community, Governor Sisolak made connecting to that community extremely difficult.

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November 13, 2020 7:44 pm

Governor Sisolak suffers from a horrible and debilitating medical condition where his cranium is wedged into his squamocolumnar junction. Pray for him when you are able to go back to your house of worship.

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November 13, 2020 8:27 pm

Friday the 13th 2020, and I just had a freak show federal court hearing with a judge who is nuts. Watch for the moon tonight.

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November 13, 2020 8:35 pm
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Is said federal judge a "maroon"?

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November 14, 2020 4:39 pm
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Federal court is a complete dump that makes the VA look well run.

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November 13, 2020 8:40 pm

Any incoming judge, especially a career PD with zero civil experience, who doesn't quickly snatch up the few available & experienced civil JEAs and instead chooses to bring some assistant with them who doesn't know the inner workings of the EJDC, the people and politics, or how to send out a scheduling order or run a calendar, will be in a world of hurt and virtually guarantee that 2021 will be the greatest shitshow yet.

All civil attorneys should shudder at the thought of "What is a 16.1?" … "How does a trial stack work?" … "What do you mean NRCP 12?" … "Rule 56 says what?" etc.

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November 13, 2020 9:09 pm
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Wait. The JEA's don't stay on with the department? Nobody would be so stupid a to bring in brand new staff trying to take over a department with hundreds of existing cases where the staff will be the only ones with knowledge. Wait. I just looked at the elections results. There might be a few who are that stupid.

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November 14, 2020 10:00 pm
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Our JEA/court recorder are worthless. The court recorder terrorizes the public and attorneys

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November 13, 2020 9:56 pm

If you look into the origins of the word "maroon" when used in the derogatory context, it appears to have originated in a highly problematic way. Just a heads up to whoever brought that word into our lives earlier this week. I would assume anyone with your vocabulary is probably concerned with being PC.

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November 13, 2020 9:59 pm
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Oh my goodness, it was a Bugs Bunny reference for crying out loud. PC culture has gotten out of hand!

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November 13, 2020 10:37 pm
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You are a bunch of burgundies? No, it just doesn't have the same ring to it. Maroons it shall remain.

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November 13, 2020 10:48 pm
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#cancelBugsBunny
#JessicaRabittIsHot

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November 14, 2020 7:04 pm
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#freebugscarrot
#freedetrcallcenter

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November 13, 2020 10:58 pm

Who You People?

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November 13, 2020 11:37 pm
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Who dat?

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November 14, 2020 12:19 am

Just got a heads up from the RJ that Sisolak tested positive for Covid…think that will change anything with the two week voluntary stay at home, turn it more to 'phase zero'? What a time we're in…

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November 15, 2020 12:16 am
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I doubt he'll be receiving many thoughts or prayers for a full and speedy recovery after how he has handled the last +/- eight months.

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November 15, 2020 11:13 pm
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How should things have been handled.

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November 14, 2020 3:08 pm

I guess mask wearers get positive test results, too. Also, he doesn't have any symptoms, so, go into total lock-down?

This whole thing has been overhyped.

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November 14, 2020 4:31 pm

[raising hand – new topic] – does anyone know what has happened to the office space at Tivoli formerly occupied by the Kolesar crew?

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November 14, 2020 4:58 pm
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I recall the space being very beautiful.