Yes. Because the Democrat party hasn’t imploded before our very eyes. . . . . . If you don’t recognize the resurgence tsunami of actual conservative morals and values, then you are either lying or blind. I am not gloating, I am simply validated.
Are these “actual conservative morals an values” in the room with you right now? Do they include law enforcement snatching citizens off the street and holding them for 10 days for not having the proper papers?
THIS is your evidence? BWAHAHHAHAHAHA. You can do better.
“Then, for a reason seemingly known only to him, Jose Hermosillo, a U.S. citizen, told an agent he had entered the country illegally.
After two days in custody, Hermosillo told a judge he was a U.S. citizen. But he was still ordered held for seven more days before his family showed up in court to provide proof of that.
In total, Hermosillo was held for 10 days before his release April 17. On that day, prosecutors dropped the misdemeanor charge of illegal entry that was filed against him.
The evidence for that charge, a document shows, came solely from Hermosillo’s own lips.”
“Snatching citizens off the street”
In a country of more that 346 million, sometimes government can mis identify a person or confuse them with someone else.
I have heard of only one such instance as you describe, certainly not enough evidence to substantiate your claim of evil intent.
The government could even make an administrative error (and admit it was an error) and wrongfully send someone to a foreign prison. And rather than do anything to fix that, it gloats and trolls about it.
Last time I checked the only alleged denial of due process was with regard to the asylum system, which is intuitively broken and abused. No reason to allow these clowns (with their face tattoos that literally broadcast their criminal affiliations) any leeway.
No one is here supporting terrorists or gang members or anything. We’re trying to support the constitution which ensures due process.
“No person shall be … deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”
I’m all for deporting terrorists. Big fan. But I’m a bigger fan of upholding the constitution. It’s literally the first part of the attorney oath: “I do solemnely swear, or affirm, that I will support the Constitution…”
There’s no exception for really bad guys that we really don’t like.
@12:27 “Process”
It is a little more complicated than that. The due process rights of a citizen are vastly greater than that of an illegal or terrorist gang member. My understanding is that someone who enters illegally has very limited due process rights, especially if apprehended at the border. A person who entered illegally but demonstrated intent to reside here, has a little more “due process” and is entitled to a hearing. However, the hearing is a civil matter that may result in an administrative removal (deportation). A person declared a terrorist (MS13) by a hearing master or immigration judge has had all the process allowed and may be removed by the administration.
For the life of me I can’t understand why you got downvoted. You provided a response – synopsis that appears to be a reasonable approach based on law. Admittedly, I know very little about due process as applied to immigrants, terrorists, etc.
If the down voters say you’re full it they should provide a response.
The issue is that hearings are not being provided. Trump loudly proclaims that it’s impossible to provide everyone with a hearing. That should set off alarm bells to anyone with even a modicum of legal training.
Even when there are hearings, the government has been ignoring court orders. Albrego Garcia, for example. He was subject to an order prohibiting him from being removed to El Salvador. Did the administration seek relief from that order before proceeding to traffick him to El Salvador? The gay barber that was sent to CECOT? What evidence does the government have that he has anything to do with TdA? We. Don’t. Know. The reason we don’t know is because they haven’t been forced to prove their case. If you’re right-leaning, why the hell are you on the side of trusting the government? A government that right-wingers all across the country have made careers out of claiming is full of lazy incompetents? That dream of the day they can exercise their 2A rights to prevent governmental tyranny? If the general position is that the government should not be trusted, why is it suddenly acceptable to trust that they are doing things correctly now? Because the ones who are being harmed are scary and brown?
But I guess that doesn’t really matter to some people. We just ignore the constitution because…. feelings?
We don’t just summarily execute people who committed murder, even though we all know they did it, because the constitution demands it. We should just start executing them without giving them a trial because their victim didn’t get a trial, right?
Or we could just take people’s guns away, and worry about due process later, right?
Trump received 77,302,580 votes. Harris received 75,017,613 votes. Trump received 2,284,967 more votes than Harris, which is about 3% more than Harris. I wouldn’t exactly call that an implosion.
P.S. Trump is not an example of conservative morals.
P.S.S. I don’t disagree with everything Trump does and in fact agree with some of things he is trying to accomplish. I also didn’t agree with everything Biden did, or Harris advocated. This BS about a tsunami and everything is black and white has to stop. Unfortunately, I don’t think it will. Fist Bump – US Flag – Fire.
Trump is the *consequence* of the previous 20+ years of corrupt politics (not the cause).
“Bipartisanship” these days is just code for “a bigger than usual grift that *both* sides are in on.”
We have Trump *because of* the shameless corruption of the last 20+ years in DC. Voters, rightfully, wanted a wrecking ball outsider (same reason Bernie was so popular too).
Its a lot longer than 20 years IMO. But the Establishment Uniparty is a very very real thing and we are watching it wither away into oblivions. Thank God.
Of course. it does. However, Trump is NOT a part of the Establishment Uniparty. Love him or hate him, he is an island unto himself.
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Anonymous
April 23, 2025 10:06 am
Revised Nevada Code of Judicial Conduct:
Canon 1. A judge shall uphold and promote the independence, integrity, and impartiality of the judiciary and shall avoid impropriety and the appearance of impropriety.
Seems pretty straight-forward, except for the cesspool of the Nevada legal system.
As if any of the Canons are actually enforced. If they were, the NV Bar would need help. Read 2.15. They would be reporting lawyers all day long if these rules actually were enforced.
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anonymous
April 23, 2025 11:21 am
In the last few days we’ve talked legal assistants and process servers. Now let’s do court reporters. I’m not sure if there are any solos or local firms left. Oasis may have been the last, and I used them largely for that reason. If i had an issue, I could pick up the phone and call the owner. Bill finally sold and retired. We used to have Laurie Webb, Manning, Hall, & Salisbury, Jan Backus, Associated (when Barbara Chevalier owned it), and a few others that I’ve probably forgotten about. They all charged about the same, but it was reasonable enough that you didn’t think twice about ordering a copy. Now everyone has been bought, probably by private equity or something, and the charges so reflect. Everything is required to be a profit center, including setting up a friggin Zoom link, which should be complimentary. Two grand for a copy of a one-day depo recently, with three attorneys on the case. Add in the original and the appearance fee for the attorney who took the depo, and that works out to somewhere in excess of $6,000.00. for one day. OK, all done yelling at the cloud now. Feel free to respond and, let us know your thoughts, and if you have found any good alternatives.
Yeah its BS. Oasis is now Lexitas. Website for Lexitas has a drop down menu for “About Us.” Submenus are “acquisitions” and “executive leadership.” Executive leadership consists of CEO, CFO, Chief Revenue Officer, Chief Marketing Officer, CIO, CTO, Chief Accounting Officer, Chief Legal Officer, Chief Innovative Officer, Chief HR Officer, Chairman and Co-Founder Adviser. I also blame the insurance companies. Burn it down.
I love how the reviews at the bottom are both paralegals who get bribed with cookies and Starbucks cards for referring, not the attorney who pays the actual excessive bill.
I’ve always liked Sousa. Small outfit both in NV and CA. Good reporters. Decent prices.
And speaking of CA, and in light of the major acquisition of most of the smaller operations around here, what does everyone think of doing the stipulation route for handling transcripts a la southern California? The rates here are definitely going nutso, and a simple stip was the solution in SoCal.
Oops, should have included that. It was effectively an agreement between the parties that they would share their transcripts by relieving the court reporter of their duties under the code (specifically, the ones related to safeguarding the original) and sending the original to the witness (or, usually, their attorney) for review and signature by the witness.
I haven’t been terribly active down there since about 2013, so I looked it up….and it turns out that there were some efforts to ensure that the reporter didn’t have to comply with the stipulation of the parties.
That California stip is gone, gone, gone. The reporters go by code because it is the reporter’s responsibility and the attorneys can’t stip away someone else’s responsibility. So says the California Certified Court Reporters Board.
Western Reporting is still local. And always ALWAYS request an itemized bill, pursuant to NAC 656.390. You will be surprised how many times the itemized bill comes back less than the original billing. You can also refuse the “litigation package” billing style where they bill you for everything as a package and instead just order what you use and refuse to pay for the things you don’t want (or didn’t really ever get.) And one additional tidbit: Do you know if you order the Mini Transcript you can print it yourself in any format you want? And you can print it multiple times in different formats if you want. You can also refuse copies of exhibits if you already have them, or if you use Bates numbers, do you really need to attach every document you reference during a depo and incur all the exhibit charges?
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Anonymous
April 23, 2025 2:09 pm
I would like to thank the firm (you know who you are) who was kind enough to call me today to tell me that my secretary was a no-call, no-show to interview with them today (no I did not know she was looking but I know now). How to burn 2 firms in one decision.
Why? If that firm got stood up for an appointment, then the secretary wasted that firm’s time. If the firm was going to call for references anyway, that cat was getting out of the bag.
Someone called out from our firm today and one of my colleagues sent me a post of them in their bikini at a hotel pool. Haven’t you seen Ferris Bueller?
THHHHHHWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK
What are complaining about playa?
Looks like https://www.scotusblog.com/ has been bought by The Dispatch – which identifies itself as “center-right.” It feels like the end of an era.
Cope harder. . . . . your era is over.
I wouldn’t gloat too much. It may turn out that Trumpism is the death rattle of 20th century conservatism.
Yes. Because the Democrat party hasn’t imploded before our very eyes. . . . . . If you don’t recognize the resurgence tsunami of actual conservative morals and values, then you are either lying or blind. I am not gloating, I am simply validated.
Are these “actual conservative morals an values” in the room with you right now? Do they include law enforcement snatching citizens off the street and holding them for 10 days for not having the proper papers?
Cite ONE actual instance of a US citizen being “snatched”.
Juan Carlos Lopez Gomez https://apnews.com/article/us-citizen-held-ice-florida-law-4b5f5d9c754b56c87d1d8b39dfedfc6c
Yeah but he was guilty of looking illegal.
/s
. . . or he was guilty of transporting illegals into Florida.
LOL 48 hours. Shit happens. I have had clients arrested get delayed longer than this in their release 30-40 times. It happens.
There are civil remedies for it.
I’d love to have you as my counsel.
Dude can’t read because of learning disability, can barely write his own name. But he’s still a US citizen.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2025/04/22/u-s-citizen-jose-hermosillo-arrested-held-immigration-case/83203021007/
AZ Central is a joke of publication. Please stop.
I generally prefer news reporting that is closer to the events when they occur, but how about CBS News? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-citizen-detained-border-nogales-arizona-dhs-10-days-intellectual-disabilities/
See 1102am above . . . 👆👆
LMAO@U
THIS is your evidence? BWAHAHHAHAHAHA. You can do better.
“Then, for a reason seemingly known only to him, Jose Hermosillo, a U.S. citizen, told an agent he had entered the country illegally.
After two days in custody, Hermosillo told a judge he was a U.S. citizen. But he was still ordered held for seven more days before his family showed up in court to provide proof of that.
In total, Hermosillo was held for 10 days before his release April 17. On that day, prosecutors dropped the misdemeanor charge of illegal entry that was filed against him.
The evidence for that charge, a document shows, came solely from Hermosillo’s own lips.”
“Snatching citizens off the street”
In a country of more that 346 million, sometimes government can mis identify a person or confuse them with someone else.
I have heard of only one such instance as you describe, certainly not enough evidence to substantiate your claim of evil intent.
The government could even make an administrative error (and admit it was an error) and wrongfully send someone to a foreign prison. And rather than do anything to fix that, it gloats and trolls about it.
Evil intent.
Evil intent gets evil intent right back in its face.
EFF MS13 and TdA. They’ve got NADA coming.
Prove the kidnapped people are MS13 and TdA or STFU.
I have no problem removing MS13 folks who commit crimes here or are wanted for crimes elsewhere. But that takes a process. That takes evidence.
Nah man we can just ignore the constitution when we’re dealing with *really bad guys*, just trust the government they’d never get it wrong
Last time I checked the only alleged denial of due process was with regard to the asylum system, which is intuitively broken and abused. No reason to allow these clowns (with their face tattoos that literally broadcast their criminal affiliations) any leeway.
EFF THEM, as I said.
Hey friend, it’s the internet, you can say fuck.
No one is here supporting terrorists or gang members or anything. We’re trying to support the constitution which ensures due process.
“No person shall be … deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”
I’m all for deporting terrorists. Big fan. But I’m a bigger fan of upholding the constitution. It’s literally the first part of the attorney oath: “I do solemnely swear, or affirm, that I will support the Constitution…”
There’s no exception for really bad guys that we really don’t like.
Sometimes I say it, sometimes I don’t.
There is some question as to whether the “rights” are applicable to illegals.
There are different levels of “due process”. A much lower bar for someone here illegally.
Evergreen during authoritarian and fascist administrations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqReTJkjjg
Kidnapped!
GTFOH
@12:27 “Process”
It is a little more complicated than that. The due process rights of a citizen are vastly greater than that of an illegal or terrorist gang member. My understanding is that someone who enters illegally has very limited due process rights, especially if apprehended at the border. A person who entered illegally but demonstrated intent to reside here, has a little more “due process” and is entitled to a hearing. However, the hearing is a civil matter that may result in an administrative removal (deportation). A person declared a terrorist (MS13) by a hearing master or immigration judge has had all the process allowed and may be removed by the administration.
For the life of me I can’t understand why you got downvoted. You provided a response – synopsis that appears to be a reasonable approach based on law. Admittedly, I know very little about due process as applied to immigrants, terrorists, etc.
If the down voters say you’re full it they should provide a response.
Because the downvotes are in a cult.
The issue is that hearings are not being provided. Trump loudly proclaims that it’s impossible to provide everyone with a hearing. That should set off alarm bells to anyone with even a modicum of legal training.
Even when there are hearings, the government has been ignoring court orders. Albrego Garcia, for example. He was subject to an order prohibiting him from being removed to El Salvador. Did the administration seek relief from that order before proceeding to traffick him to El Salvador? The gay barber that was sent to CECOT? What evidence does the government have that he has anything to do with TdA? We. Don’t. Know. The reason we don’t know is because they haven’t been forced to prove their case. If you’re right-leaning, why the hell are you on the side of trusting the government? A government that right-wingers all across the country have made careers out of claiming is full of lazy incompetents? That dream of the day they can exercise their 2A rights to prevent governmental tyranny? If the general position is that the government should not be trusted, why is it suddenly acceptable to trust that they are doing things correctly now? Because the ones who are being harmed are scary and brown?
The people who bypassed legal process to enter the USA demand legal process before being kicked out.
Babylon Bee always hits nail on the head.
The constitution demands it.
But I guess that doesn’t really matter to some people. We just ignore the constitution because…. feelings?
We don’t just summarily execute people who committed murder, even though we all know they did it, because the constitution demands it. We should just start executing them without giving them a trial because their victim didn’t get a trial, right?
Or we could just take people’s guns away, and worry about due process later, right?
No, no. Guns are special. And on the murder hypo posed, what color were the victim and the alleged assailant?
What are the “actual conservative morals and values”?
Trump received 77,302,580 votes. Harris received 75,017,613 votes. Trump received 2,284,967 more votes than Harris, which is about 3% more than Harris. I wouldn’t exactly call that an implosion.
P.S. Trump is not an example of conservative morals.
P.S.S. I don’t disagree with everything Trump does and in fact agree with some of things he is trying to accomplish. I also didn’t agree with everything Biden did, or Harris advocated. This BS about a tsunami and everything is black and white has to stop. Unfortunately, I don’t think it will. Fist Bump – US Flag – Fire.
Sorry amigo. I never cited Trump as the cause of the “resurgence” or the “D” implosion.
I am of the opinion that the Democrat party left the rest of us when it sprinted to the bureaucratic and authoritarian left circa 2020 and beyond.
Love him or hate him, Trump is the inevitable result of both the “implosion” and the “resurgence”.
Trump is the *consequence* of the previous 20+ years of corrupt politics (not the cause).
“Bipartisanship” these days is just code for “a bigger than usual grift that *both* sides are in on.”
We have Trump *because of* the shameless corruption of the last 20+ years in DC. Voters, rightfully, wanted a wrecking ball outsider (same reason Bernie was so popular too).
Its a lot longer than 20 years IMO. But the Establishment Uniparty is a very very real thing and we are watching it wither away into oblivions. Thank God.
Does that 20 years of corruption include Trump 1 four years?
Absolutely. You should not be shocked that the most powerful governing body in human history is littered with corruption. It’s literally human nature.
Of course. it does. However, Trump is NOT a part of the Establishment Uniparty. Love him or hate him, he is an island unto himself.
Revised Nevada Code of Judicial Conduct:
Canon 1. A judge shall uphold and promote the independence, integrity, and impartiality of the judiciary and shall avoid impropriety and the appearance of impropriety.
Seems pretty straight-forward, except for the cesspool of the Nevada legal system.
Let me know if this works because I would love to get Judge Israel off of all of my cases.
Find a legitimate appearance of impropriety. File a motion, argue Canon 1 is straight-forward and mandatory (shall avoid), and hope for the best.
As if any of the Canons are actually enforced. If they were, the NV Bar would need help. Read 2.15. They would be reporting lawyers all day long if these rules actually were enforced.
In the last few days we’ve talked legal assistants and process servers. Now let’s do court reporters. I’m not sure if there are any solos or local firms left. Oasis may have been the last, and I used them largely for that reason. If i had an issue, I could pick up the phone and call the owner. Bill finally sold and retired. We used to have Laurie Webb, Manning, Hall, & Salisbury, Jan Backus, Associated (when Barbara Chevalier owned it), and a few others that I’ve probably forgotten about. They all charged about the same, but it was reasonable enough that you didn’t think twice about ordering a copy. Now everyone has been bought, probably by private equity or something, and the charges so reflect. Everything is required to be a profit center, including setting up a friggin Zoom link, which should be complimentary. Two grand for a copy of a one-day depo recently, with three attorneys on the case. Add in the original and the appearance fee for the attorney who took the depo, and that works out to somewhere in excess of $6,000.00. for one day. OK, all done yelling at the cloud now. Feel free to respond and, let us know your thoughts, and if you have found any good alternatives.
Yeah its BS. Oasis is now Lexitas. Website for Lexitas has a drop down menu for “About Us.” Submenus are “acquisitions” and “executive leadership.” Executive leadership consists of CEO, CFO, Chief Revenue Officer, Chief Marketing Officer, CIO, CTO, Chief Accounting Officer, Chief Legal Officer, Chief Innovative Officer, Chief HR Officer, Chairman and Co-Founder Adviser. I also blame the insurance companies. Burn it down.
I love how the reviews at the bottom are both paralegals who get bribed with cookies and Starbucks cards for referring, not the attorney who pays the actual excessive bill.
Yes but we love those cookies!!! Now I get a bill for $1000 for a lousy transcript and not a cookie in sight.
The cookies and Starbucks cards really belong to the client that ultimately pays the bill.
Rocket Reporters is still local
I need to remember this.
I’ve always liked Sousa. Small outfit both in NV and CA. Good reporters. Decent prices.
And speaking of CA, and in light of the major acquisition of most of the smaller operations around here, what does everyone think of doing the stipulation route for handling transcripts a la southern California? The rates here are definitely going nutso, and a simple stip was the solution in SoCal.
What’s the stipulation. Sorry I don’t know.
Oops, should have included that. It was effectively an agreement between the parties that they would share their transcripts by relieving the court reporter of their duties under the code (specifically, the ones related to safeguarding the original) and sending the original to the witness (or, usually, their attorney) for review and signature by the witness.
I haven’t been terribly active down there since about 2013, so I looked it up….and it turns out that there were some efforts to ensure that the reporter didn’t have to comply with the stipulation of the parties.
That California stip is gone, gone, gone. The reporters go by code because it is the reporter’s responsibility and the attorneys can’t stip away someone else’s responsibility. So says the California Certified Court Reporters Board.
Kim Farkas at real time trials is awesome
Western Reporting is still local. And always ALWAYS request an itemized bill, pursuant to NAC 656.390. You will be surprised how many times the itemized bill comes back less than the original billing. You can also refuse the “litigation package” billing style where they bill you for everything as a package and instead just order what you use and refuse to pay for the things you don’t want (or didn’t really ever get.) And one additional tidbit: Do you know if you order the Mini Transcript you can print it yourself in any format you want? And you can print it multiple times in different formats if you want. You can also refuse copies of exhibits if you already have them, or if you use Bates numbers, do you really need to attach every document you reference during a depo and incur all the exhibit charges?
I would like to thank the firm (you know who you are) who was kind enough to call me today to tell me that my secretary was a no-call, no-show to interview with them today (no I did not know she was looking but I know now). How to burn 2 firms in one decision.
Oops! Sorry about that!
Also, your wife’s car broke down today at lunch at the Strat parking garage. Don’t ask me how I know.
That was actually a really rotten thing for the the other firm to do.
Why? If that firm got stood up for an appointment, then the secretary wasted that firm’s time. If the firm was going to call for references anyway, that cat was getting out of the bag.
Maybe the other firm was legitimately worried about the welfare of the applicant.
Someone called out from our firm today and one of my colleagues sent me a post of them in their bikini at a hotel pool. Haven’t you seen Ferris Bueller?
Very stupid of her!
I guess it depends. Did she call out “sick”? Or just take a PTO day?
She took a “Mental health day”