For those of you who weren’t paying close attention, there was discussion in yesterday’s comments about the status of hiring a probate commissioner that raises some good questions.
Here’s more on that Nye County church camp water issue. [TNI]
And here’s more on the pitbull that attacked the great-grandma. [RJ]
Inmate wages not “slave labor” Nevada high court rules in dismissal. [RJ]
Elko will keep high schools “Indian” mascot. [Nevada Current]
A lawsuit (appears to have been filed by Chasen Cohan) alleges construction worker killed in northwest Las Vegas was buried alive. [Fox5Vegas]
One-on-one with new Raiders president Sandra Douglass Morgan. [Video-News3LV]
Garland made a statement that the DOJ filed a motion to unseal the warrant.
Notably, the motion was co-signed by the Chair of the DOJ's "Counterintelligence and Export Control Section" which is part of the "National Security Division". According to the DOJ website:
>The Counterintelligence and Export Control Section (CES) supervises the investigation and prosecution of cases affecting national security, foreign relations, and the export of military and strategic commodities and technology. The Section has executive responsibility for authorizing the prosecution of cases under criminal statutes relating to espionage, sabotage, neutrality, and atomic energy.
I'm not saying the former president was going to sell these classified documents to a foreign entity, but if he was, this is probably the DOJ division that would be investigating it.
Or maybe he just kept some love letters from people that he received while in office and he's required to return them but refused to do so.
@ 1:29
Perhaps, but if they are only Presidential papers, not classified, then the 30 odd agents and 9 hour search would definitely be a heavy handed over reach, especially if it is true that many boxes of documents were co-operatively turned over before the raid.
@1:57, Many boxes were turned over in January, but he kept records. Then he was subpoenaed, and still didn't give these documents back. Then the FBI visited mar a lago in June, and he *still* didn't give them back.
I mean, c'mon man, there's no way you or I would be allowed to keep documents like this and just refuse to comply with the law and a subpoena. Why should this guy get special treatment?
An american president is being investigated for who knows, espionage, but please keep the wisecracks coming. PS I know nothing short of the end of the world will stop these inane hashtags but I must try.
6:20 is hashtag guy. No one likes hashtag guy except hashtag guy. I used to think eventually he would get bored and stop but have resigned myself to the fact that he never will.
Inmate wages
Yes, I know that inmates have to be paid, but I think this is a flawed notion. They should be required to work to defray the cost of their maintenance and upkeep, instead of watching tv and smoking and joking in the pods all day. A bonus – a tired prisioner won't have the extra energy to be a troublesome prisoner.
Watch the documentary "13" which addresses the reasons why prisoners are exempted from the 13th amendment. Spoiler alert: It was in order to continue to enslave Black people.
The answer to this situation points to the very problem with our criminal justice system which is that we place punishment by the state as a higher virtue than restitution to victims. Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment but places no restriction on restitution. If we put more people to work at their full economic value (and then captured more of their full income for restitution) rather than incarcerating we would return the system to victim focused rather than state focused.
@3:41 theoretically that sounds great, but try collecting child support and you'll soon discover the depths to which your fellow man will sink to avoid responsibility for their actions.
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August 12, 2022 4:02 am
Prisoners do not have to be paid under the US Constitution. Maybe NV law is different, I'm not sure. But, I disagree they should be paid as little as they do. 2 reasons. 1. The 13A says no involuntary servitude or slavery except for "punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction," which I think should mean community service, not prison labor. Prison itself is punishment. Forced labor is extra punishment. 2. FLSA requires Congress to pay a min wage sufficient to allow to pay for health, etc. While housing and food is provided prisoners, there are many things needed for daily living that are not provided free by the prison, while commissary charges insane prices for items compared to prison wages. Min wage should be paid.
I do not practice at all in this area of law, but I'd love to some day. I'm sure these arguments have been made and rejected. These are my Thursday night musings. Thanks for reading.
The comments above are funny…I'll admit I laughed at 8:33. Reading the article though is really sad. I hope the feds bury that guy. How sad for that family.
Garland made a statement that the DOJ filed a motion to unseal the warrant.
Notably, the motion was co-signed by the Chair of the DOJ's "Counterintelligence and Export Control Section" which is part of the "National Security Division". According to the DOJ website:
>The Counterintelligence and Export Control Section (CES) supervises the investigation and prosecution of cases affecting national security, foreign relations, and the export of military and strategic commodities and technology. The Section has executive responsibility for authorizing the prosecution of cases under criminal statutes relating to espionage, sabotage, neutrality, and atomic energy.
I'm not saying the former president was going to sell these classified documents to a foreign entity, but if he was, this is probably the DOJ division that would be investigating it.
Or maybe he just kept some love letters from people that he received while in office and he's required to return them but refused to do so.
Or the ex-president could have de-classified the documents before leaving office.
Declassification doesn't make them not subject to the Presidential Records Act – he's still legally required to give them back, and didn't.
Allegedly
@ 1:29
Perhaps, but if they are only Presidential papers, not classified, then the 30 odd agents and 9 hour search would definitely be a heavy handed over reach, especially if it is true that many boxes of documents were co-operatively turned over before the raid.
What if they were classified papers about nuclear weapons? Change your mind then?
@1:57, Many boxes were turned over in January, but he kept records. Then he was subpoenaed, and still didn't give these documents back. Then the FBI visited mar a lago in June, and he *still* didn't give them back.
I mean, c'mon man, there's no way you or I would be allowed to keep documents like this and just refuse to comply with the law and a subpoena. Why should this guy get special treatment?
#freemaralago
#freebonniebulla
#freethepitbull
An american president is being investigated for who knows, espionage, but please keep the wisecracks coming. PS I know nothing short of the end of the world will stop these inane hashtags but I must try.
Yes,#116,how dare you make a joke about Trump? Terrible. I like the hashtag guy
6:20 is hashtag guy. No one likes hashtag guy except hashtag guy. I used to think eventually he would get bored and stop but have resigned myself to the fact that he never will.
I love hashtag guy!! #nothashtagguy #promise
Sorry hash tag guy for hashtagging, just trying to get my point across
620 again, not hashtag guy.
I no longer trust the FBI. Their credibility is completely shot at this point.
Oh, has the GOP switched from "Back the Blue" to "Law Enforcement Sets People Up" that quickly?
This surprises you why?
Pahrump Justice of the Peace Kent Jasperson has died. https://pvtimes.com/news/pahrump-justice-of-the-peace-kent-jasperson-dies-after-battle-with-cancer-112113/
Inmate wages
Yes, I know that inmates have to be paid, but I think this is a flawed notion. They should be required to work to defray the cost of their maintenance and upkeep, instead of watching tv and smoking and joking in the pods all day. A bonus – a tired prisioner won't have the extra energy to be a troublesome prisoner.
So slaves for the state? Holy shit did you even read that before you posted?
Watch the documentary "13" which addresses the reasons why prisoners are exempted from the 13th amendment. Spoiler alert: It was in order to continue to enslave Black people.
The answer to this situation points to the very problem with our criminal justice system which is that we place punishment by the state as a higher virtue than restitution to victims. Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment but places no restriction on restitution. If we put more people to work at their full economic value (and then captured more of their full income for restitution) rather than incarcerating we would return the system to victim focused rather than state focused.
@3:41 theoretically that sounds great, but try collecting child support and you'll soon discover the depths to which your fellow man will sink to avoid responsibility for their actions.
Prisoners do not have to be paid under the US Constitution. Maybe NV law is different, I'm not sure. But, I disagree they should be paid as little as they do. 2 reasons. 1. The 13A says no involuntary servitude or slavery except for "punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction," which I think should mean community service, not prison labor. Prison itself is punishment. Forced labor is extra punishment. 2. FLSA requires Congress to pay a min wage sufficient to allow to pay for health, etc. While housing and food is provided prisoners, there are many things needed for daily living that are not provided free by the prison, while commissary charges insane prices for items compared to prison wages. Min wage should be paid.
I do not practice at all in this area of law, but I'd love to some day. I'm sure these arguments have been made and rejected. These are my Thursday night musings. Thanks for reading.
Labor is being tossed about, but what is the labor? Is someone profting from the labor of prisoners?
The prison certainly saves money by paying inmates prisoner wages instead of bringing in outsiders to perform tasks and paying a normal wage.
Renting out prisoners for labor contracts doesn't just save the prison money. They make money.
Just Google Unicor
How has no one posted or commented on this yet???? This is comedy gold Jerry! https://www.ktnv.com/13-investigates/las-vegas-landlord-requires-tenant-on-section-8-to-sign-sex-contract-in-order-to-lease-home
I am revising all my current leases for tenants that are a 6 or above.
What the hell?
I dont see a problem with it. All my leases contain a quid pro quo
tuggie = 1 free week
oral = 2 free weeks
back door action = 1 free month
8:33. You are an inspiration. Thank you
1 free year = dress up like Judge Butler (Family Court) and tell me I've been a bad, bad boy
The comments above are funny…I'll admit I laughed at 8:33. Reading the article though is really sad. I hope the feds bury that guy. How sad for that family.
That was a great article. And the perps name is Rothstein. Perfect.