Utah’s Regulatory Sandbox

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  • Judge Kerry Earley could issue an opinion as early as today after allowing parties to submit additional case law regarding Governor Sisolak’s shutdown of bars. [News3LV]
  • The Utah Supreme Court approved a two-year pilot of a proposed regulatory sandbox that will allow lawyers and nonlawyers to work together to address the issue of access to justice. [LawSites]
  • What else is going on out there? Are you squeezing in some kind of summer vacation with school starting up again soon?
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August 14, 2020 5:48 pm

Summer vacation…what's that?

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August 15, 2020 2:47 pm
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Haven't had a day off since December. I have plenty of leave saved up but work just follows me and there's nowhere to go. I miss my extended family, I usually see them during the summer. I am so lonely and miserable. I know I should be grateful to have a job and shelter and all that but nothing feels like it has a point. Just waiting until my kids are all safely over 18.

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August 15, 2020 3:43 pm
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Please try and take a day off soon. Maybe explain to your employer that you won’t be available for a weekend. I hope you feel better soon.

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August 15, 2020 6:03 pm
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7:47, your situation is a great descriptor of the unspoken toll that this never ending shutdown is causing everyone. It needs to be weighed much more heavily than it currently is among the powers that be whom decide our fate of freedom. The pro-oppression politicians and media fear-mongers need proper pushback here, otherwise they will continue to use this pandemic to drive their politically driven narrative. Glad that you spoke up, it's important.

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August 16, 2020 1:03 am
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Indeed.

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August 16, 2020 4:55 am
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Thanks for letting me vent anonymously. I feel guilty for how miserable I feel when I know it could be so much worse. I do worry about the toll this is taking on others in our field, the job was stressful to begin with and now we don't have any outlets. I didn't realize how much the little things perked me up until all of them were gone. Thank you all again for reading and responding.

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August 16, 2020 4:50 pm
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Thank you for posting about this. It let me know I'm not alone. That's important. I finally did take some time off, just this past week and felt guilty as heck for doing so. The past six months have been the hardest in my adult life and I don't think either of us is alone in that.

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August 17, 2020 2:49 am
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Solidarity, @9:50. Glad you did get a break, it has been incredibly hard.

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August 14, 2020 8:15 pm

There was discussion yesterday concerning highly questionable lawsuits filed by attorneys to garner some temporary media attention. These suits are seldom filed by solid, highly regarded attorneys, but by marginal, attention-seeking attorneys. Two common examples of these types of suits are as follows:

1.A suit is filed on behalf of some person of some public note, at least known in Vegas(such as an entertainer, musician, sports figure, local politician, etc.)concerning bullshit like they got escorted from a casino for drunken, disorderly behavior.

2. Even more common, and even more frivolous, a local political candidate, during the election, commences a lawsuit against their election opponent for saying something negative about them. The lawyers who file such cases tend to ignore that their client, while involved in an election, is clearly a public figure for defamation purposes, and that the statements complained about are usually opinion based rather than factual based(e.g. "Candidate X is being dishonest with the voters.")

The apparent goal of such idiotic suits, filed during the election, is to have voters conclude that the statements made must be false or the candidate would not have gone to the trouble of suing. But what the public tends to actually think is that the suing candidate is a thin-skinned cry baby, who can't take the heat, and who does not trust the voters to sort out what is true and relevant and what is not.

Worst things about these lawsuits is that usually the suing candidate is a candidate who eventually loses the election, and then the attorney is left with a shitty lawsuit filed on behalf of a defeated political candidate. The attorney then offers to dismiss the suit(as it no longer has a purpose as the election is over) but the other side refuses to dismiss the suit unless their attorney fees are paid by the suing party.

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August 15, 2020 12:08 am

I read that Judge Earley deferred ruling on the issue surrounding the shutdown because she was not sure whether the Court had the authority to overrule the Governor's directive. However, if the judicial branch of the state government does not hold the authority to intervene when the executive branch oversteps its boundaries (say, issue a directive that may be unconstitutional), wouldn't the executive branch of the state then have unchecked power in the state? asking for a friend.

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August 17, 2020 7:15 pm
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That was decided in Marbury v. Madison over 200 years ago.

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August 16, 2020 7:45 pm

Saturday was the third day in a row Nevada set a new record for Covid-19 deaths.
Who are the idiots who think this is no big deal, or Sisolak and the legislature have over reacted, or that bars should be open, there should be no mask mandates, our kids should be in school, and college football should be played with crowds?
Record number of deaths, three days in a row!
Please get real people.

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August 16, 2020 8:03 pm
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"Who are the idiots" is not the start to a conversation between rational adults.

First, the numbers are artificially jacked up.
Second, the deaths are higher because Sisolak and the CDC don't let doctors try what works but mandate things that don't work and are heavily subsidized.
Third, mask mandates are not supported by science.
Fourth, Between 2/1/2020 and 8/12/2020, in Nevada, 88 of 825 Covid (or, "covid") deaths were attributable to people under 55. The remaining 89.3% were over 55. Par for the course for pulmonary illnesses targeting obese, diabetic, and other compromised adults — of which Nevada has very very many. (Been to a casion or Dottys or Walmart?)
Fifth, Sisolak revealed his hand when he okays mass protests, packed casinos and empty churches. I can't worship but I can buy lots of cupcakes at Walmart and smoke and drink at casinos and then maybe march and burn some shit down.

So, no, I am not an idiot; rather, I am someone who thinks it is wrong that the power hungry Sisolak continues with the destruction of human institutions for a disease with a kill rate well within the standard flu.

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August 17, 2020 1:54 am
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Thank you for answering 12:45's question.
Give us your name and we'll really know.

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August 17, 2020 2:19 am
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Put on your mask, 12:45, and go out and play. You'll feel better. Just make sure you come back inside when the street lights come on.

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August 17, 2020 10:12 am
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I am truly confused and frustrated that even highly educated individuals frequently say covid-19 is just a bad flu. The data does not back it up. See charts from CDC here .
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-covid-19-isnt-the-flu

Keep in mind the mortality vs other diseases is an absolute, not proportional value in the chart. If covid-19 were to be in wide circulation like say the flu, the 13 day death rate would be 855,000. (This was a back of the napkin math based on the ratio of deaths to infections, approximately 19x in one chart, multiplied by the 13 week number of deaths in another chart). Now compare that to yearly deaths of the leading cause heart disease 650,000. The flu is a paltry 56,000.

This number ignores the nonexistant immunity of this novel virus, its increased propensity for superspreader events, the increased mitigation efforts, the limited circulation at the time of data collection, and overwhelming the healthcare system. These factors would likely increase the total amount infected (making the 19x multiplier even higher and the death rate higher as well).

200,000 more people would die in 13 weeks than the amount of people who die of heart disease in a YEAR. If the rate for covid was steady over the year, deaths would rise to 3.4 million, more than 2.7 million more than die of heart disease a year.

Herd immunity is acheived at a protective rate of approximately 70%. The US population is 330 million, so without a vaccine, 231 million would need to be infected, or over 5 times the yearly infection. If the death rate stays steady, you are looking at 17 million dead in 5 years.

I hope this will impress upon the unconvinced the true severity of covid-19 and pursuade individuals to, at a minimum, wear a mask.

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August 17, 2020 5:46 pm
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Inflated CDC data still does not support the masks or the shutdowns.

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August 17, 2020 5:47 pm
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And not to belabor the obvious: they lied to us at the beginning with numbers that they knew were fabricated out of thin air for the purpose of scaring us into submission. Now that there is enough data out there to see they were completely wrong, they ask us to trust them again. Nope. Fool me once…

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August 17, 2020 9:58 pm
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Is someone (meaning democrats, scientists, medical professionals) fooling you about this too?
Saturday was the third day in a row Nevada set a new record for Covid-19 deaths.

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August 21, 2020 6:53 pm

Several months ago someone on this blog mentioned that the Nevada Court of Appeals building’s font is gross and similar to comic sans. I think about it every time I see the building and chuckle because I agree. I hadn’t realize how ugly it was

Gilad Berman
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Gilad Berman
August 28, 2020 5:54 am

Amazing, keep on updating these kinds of post..Thanks

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