With all the videos of rage, yelling, assaults on employees and people jumping the counters of fast food restaurants, for months now, if I am doing fast food, its drive thru or curbside PERIOD.
No need to endanger yourself by going inside and witness or become involved anymore. Eff that noise!
I’m at my desk eating bell peppers right now. I have radically re-oriented my life so that I only eat junk food on Saturdays. Guess what I think about every other day of the week? And dream about? And plan for? Onion rings? I’d give a pint of blood for an order right now.
This is the best way to make unhealthy food the most enjoyable. I’ve done the diet yo yo thing for many years, and often have the “free day.” Nothing is better than a good pizza after you’ve been eating clean for six days. As the kids say these days it “hits different”.
Onion Rings!
When I lived Kansas City, there was a local BBQ restaurant that would serve a foot high stack of onion rings. Not over-fried, or soggy. The best ever with ribs and Tanqueray tonic with a lime garnish.
11:33 here. Let me just say that the Family meal deal at Habit is likely the most slept-on value in fast food. 4 burgers that are pretty good, 4 fries, and either a salad or a 10 piece chicken, all for $40. Order ahead, and it’s ready for pickup in 10 minutes on any given night. Skip the calorie-laden sodas, we have water at home.
The RJ’s site contains a link to the recording of the informational meeting. It should be required viewing for anyone engaging in the discussion (either for or against). Significant items from my view:
Temple with a roof height of 68 feet that meets the residency-adjacent standards. Unmentioned: the residency adjacent standards were recently amended to allow for setback/height ratios, instead of a hard 35 foot limit. It meets the amended standards.
Height – The steeple goes from 68 feet to 188 feet. The spire on top of the steeple goes from 188 feet to 216 feet.
Temple + meetinghouse + pavilion – So it isn’t just the temple being used 5 days a week, this is going to see heavy use all week long. Except for Monday (does anyone still do Family Home Evening?) Lots of parking, though.
Pavilion – What the freak is up with the ritzy meetinghouses getting pavilions? Let us propose a moratorium on pavilions in favor of general commercial janitorial services.
Landscaping – there’s a lot of large trees involved here next to the perimeter wrought iron fencing.
Views – they showed CAD 3-d renderings trying to show 3 the impact on views. It was helpful to see, but didn’t have the most significant angle: from the east near street-level, looking west towards Lone Mountain. This is the view most people are concerned with and whether Lone Mountain will be blocked. It’s also a view that is most prominently owned by vacant BLM land, so there’s that.
I wish more meetinghouses had pavilions. They are great for social events. I wish my meetinghouse had one. I have fond memories of bbq’s at our wardhouse pavilion growing up. They seem to be kind of rare outside of Utah. Weather in the fall and spring, like right now, is perfect for pavilions.
Also significant:
The temple site isn’t in the rural preservation area. There has been a lot of misleading information spread about this.
The temple site doesn’t fall within the scope of the inter local agreement. The IA applies only to commercial and industrial development, not houses of worship.
The Planning Commission and City Council will approve this project. And they should. It complies with all relevant codes and zoning regulations. It will be interesting to see if any of the opponent neighbors try to file suit. Seems like that suit would be a real long shot.
The church rarely moves this far down the line without all of the ducks being in a row, legally speaking. The opposition, noisy as it may be, is a relatively small group of church haters backed by a relatively powerful group of ex-mos.
This opposition is a Non issue and a non story. This project is happening whether we like it or not. Legally speaking, 1150 is correct. It probably should happen.
Those living in the general area should STFU and watch their homes skyrocket in value.
It’s clear that particular mormon @1:34 don’t. And having known and worked with quite a few mormons in this town, alot of them don’t. Care about more than just money, that is. What wonderful representatives of their cult I mean faith.
“Church haters” lmao based on what? This is probably my single biggest criticism of the LDS church, they can dish it but can’t take it. Just because someone isn’t totally on board with a behemoth church in their residential neighborhood doesn’t automatically make them a hater of religion.
Newsflash to Mormons: to a majority of people in this valley, there is more to life than just religious fanfare.
Eh, there’s more than a little church hatin’ going on. I’ve seen people advocate that it doesn’t belong anywhere, not just their little slice of rural heaven (that is like 700 feet from full-scale housing developments). I’ve seen people claim that the sight of a temple would be traumatic to ex-mos, and why won’t the Mormons take that into account! I think there are valid concerns about the height, lighting, etc. I think in general, those valid concerns have not been expressed very well. Concerns about the height have been overblown as people try to compare the height of the extremely narrow spire to the Durango casino. On the other hand, members have tried to downplay concerns about the height of the steeple which is twice the height of the building itself. Maybe a little moderation is needed? I mean, the spire of Notre Dame cathedral was 256 feet tall from the floor, but the main structure itself was 211 feet.
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Yeah, you better not look at the FB groups opposing the temple, their affiliates, their “news” and financial supporters. Besides the lone local news snippet on their website, their main “story” is an exmo anti-church podcast.
I can assure you that those dishing it and not taking it are those vocally opposing this building. I can assure you that most of us, just want to be left alone and DGAF about your hate or your religious preference.
I mean, 90% of the Mormons brigading the issue also do not live in the neighborhood so this isn’t a fair criticism. If you want to leave it to strictly the Lone Mountain Stake and the neighbors I’m sure proportionally the opposition and support ratios would remain unchanged.
The number of Mormons who live in the area and will use that temple dwarf the actual number of objecting neighbors. The northwest valley has at least 5 stakes: Meadows, Lone Mountain, Elk Springs, Tule Springs and Skye Canyon. The actual temple district will be much larger, around 12+ stakes. The Mormons speaking up, including myself, live there.
Which brings me to another gripe. People keep saying “the residents” are against the temple as if there was some kind of unified position in the neighborhood itself. Also false. There are at least SEVEN wards in the immediate rural neighborhood preservation. Those Mormons with TR’s alone dwarf the actual opposition. A more accurate statement is that some neighbors oppose and some neighbors support.
Sure. Except that one of the rallying cries against it has been “BUT OUR VIEWS OF THE MOUNTAIN!” The same view shared by most everyone else in the valley. If you want to claim that you are opposed because of a view issue, you need to allow for others with the same view issue who are in favor, whether they live in the immediate area or not.
And that podcast grossly misrepresented the zoning status, laws etc. That’s a big reason the City had to have the Virtual Town hall the other night, to counter the wild misinformation that this out-of-town, exmo brigading podcast and others have spread.
There is literally a program run by the Mormon church that sends between 50,000-75,000 missionaries worldwide at any given time to knock on doors and bring their religion to others. Not really a “want to be left alone” philosophy.
Lol you don’t get to have your Mormon cake and eat it too. Missionary work and a philosophy of “wanting to be left alone” are mutually exclusive. Pick one.
What part of knocking on my door is me “wanting to be let in” or Mormons asking to “be left alone??? As an inactive member who gets hit up by both the sisters and the elders every month and a half when there is a transfer, even though I’ve asked to be left alone, where is the “politely passing me by” you referenced? Don’t gaslight me, bruh. I served a mission. I know the gig.
There are steps you can take to stop the contacts and you know it. Its not that hard to figure out. You could have done in the time it took you to post your whiny rant, bruh.
But you’ve contradicted yourself. You’ve said if I asked to be left alone they would leave me alone. I have asked to be left alone more times than I can count and they have not left me alone. In fact, they’ve actively worked to transfer my membership records through 4 different moves across 3 different states without my consent. And you now acknowledge that don’t leave me alone in contradiction to your earlier statements. Instead you tell me that I should be required to draft legal correspondence signed before a notary as a prerequisite to being left alone–what kind of organization requires such hoops? Certainly not one that values the importance of wanting to be “left alone.”
I said that there is a process “steps you can take”. Figure it out or continue to suffer . . . . oh, yeah and publicly bitch and whine about it. No notary required.
Exmo’s are insufferable, to a man/woman.
While you are at it, you might want to look into HOW your records are following you without your consent.
My money is on a family member is ratting you out every time that you move.
Its his family, so it a they thing, not a church thing. I have been party to many “Do Not Contacts” and its just not that tough and they are almost universally respected.
No. Just no. “Do not contact” is interpreted within the community as “Do not contact (right now but just in case you change your mind we will check in with you periodically)”
This TEMPLE is similiar in its foot print to the new one in Cedar City. It is absolutely stunning. New Temples are on economic boom to the adjacent areas. There will be lots of retired RICH church members from out of town who will be drawn to it.
I am not LDS.
The property values will go sky high.
There are not as many church members here proportionately as in years gone by. But Mormons do vote and their block vote in primaries can be a killer.
I’m LDS, and it’s gone down through a combination of the growth of the valley outpacing the growth of the Church and attrition of Church members. The LDS Church is losing members, although not at the pace of other churches or religions. Yes, we are still a significant part of the community both in number and in our contributions. This town is transient and the LDS community has provided stability to civic institutions for many decades.
Church, temple, I don’t really give a shit what you call it, it’s still an absolutely enormous structure whichever way you slice it, and it impacts vast swaths of residents.
And this econ argument I here regurgitated by every tom, dick, and harry supporting this whole proposal, but no one bothers to back that up with any statistics. “Trust me bro, these houses are gonna be worth MILLIONS.” Lol, okay? Don’t really buy it. It’s all anecdotal nonsense from LDS members saying “oh my sister’s husband’s cousin’s kids heard x, y, z.”
You are clearly emotional about this whole thing. So take a breath.
Las Vegas has a temple in East LV and if you objectively look at the value of the surrounding homes over the years, you will see what is being talked about. Happens all over the country when temples are built adjacent to neighborhoods.
Its actually easy to do, if you want to. Also, its not a stretch to believe that the same effect will take place at Lone Mountain.
There’s nothing to debate, because no facts have been presented… but keep parroting the typical talking points. I’d expect nothing less from a multi-billion dollar corpor… I mean church
I wish I had the honor of calling myself one, but nah just a gentile that calls them like he sees them. Tends to happen when you are part of an organization with billions on its balance sheet lol.
I am of the firm belief that any church member that sits on any amount money while even one child goes hungry in this world will have as much chance of getting into whatever heaven they believe in as I do of dunking flat-footed on a 45 foot rim.
What effect does the building of a LDS temple typically have on residential property values in a given neighborhood
The effect of building a Latter-day Saints (LDS) temple on residential property values can vary depending on several factors, including the location of the temple, the characteristics of the neighborhood, and local market conditions. However, there are some common trends that have been observed in areas where LDS temples are constructed:
1. **Increase in Property Values**: In many cases, the construction of an LDS temple can lead to an increase in residential property values in the surrounding area. This is often because temples are considered prestigious and desirable landmarks, and their presence can enhance the overall appeal of the neighborhood.
2. **Boost in Demand**: The construction of a temple may attract members of the LDS community who want to live closer to the temple for convenience and accessibility. This increased demand for housing in the area can drive up property prices.
3. **Improved Infrastructure and Amenities**: In anticipation of the temple construction, local governments and developers may invest in improving infrastructure and amenities in the surrounding area. This can further enhance the attractiveness of the neighborhood and contribute to higher property values.
4. **Sense of Community**: LDS temples often become focal points for the local LDS community, fostering a sense of community and belonging among residents. This strong community spirit can positively influence perceptions of the neighborhood and contribute to higher property values.
5. **Potential Downsides**: While the overall impact of a temple on property values is often positive, there can be some downsides. Increased traffic and parking issues during peak times, as well as changes in the neighborhood’s character, may be concerns for some residents.
It’s important to note that the magnitude of the effect on property values can vary depending on the specific circumstances of each neighborhood and market dynamics. Additionally, the construction of a temple is just one of many factors that can influence property values, and other factors such as economic conditions, demographic trends, and the condition of the housing stock also play a significant role.
So! Suck it.
(That last part was me, not Chat GPT.)
Usually it’s the party attempting to build a multi-million dollar palace that has the burden of proof, but it’s pretty clear you don’t have any evidence to back up your claims. Sorry, better luck next time champ.
Anyone that lives near a meetinghouse (and who doesn’t) knows that the only “heavy use” is on Sundays and even then the parking lots are rarely overrun with traffic with maybe 300-500 people in the building. Call it 150-200 cars maximum) at any given block of time.
There will be a fraction of that (maybe 25%) even on the heaviest of evenings with weekly or holiday based activities or weddings.
The temple’s traffic will be nominal at best at any given timeframe.
Again, this whole debate is a non issue. It is happening.
I would venture that the church building gets only “heavy” use under 10 hours a week. Say 4 hours on sunday, then 2 hours on Tuesday and/or Wednesday. Other use sure, but not heavy.
Viewpoint protection is a very valid reason to deny development. Look it up. Everyone is entitled to the same view they had when they purchased their property, forever. Wait. None of that is right. It’s RLUPA time baby! If the politicians cave to the dissenters it will cost the government $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I hear the parties at temple pavilions are wild af though. The Pay Lay Ale chants can be heard for miles sometimes I hear.
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We still an update on the bar exam and what is going on with licensing of lawyers in Nevada.
Everyone should take a look at ADKT 0594 and the posts. Quite eye opening and informative.
Practitioners need to speak out. The academy has completely given up on gate keeping and screening in favor of revenue. It’s up to us to protect the public from incapable and incompetent practitioners.
There has been no official announcement about the Bar Exam Task Force and the report submitted to the Nevada Supreme Court. I wonder why that is. We hear crickets from the State Bar, the Board of Bar Examiners and the Board of Governors. It seems they don’t want this known or publicized.
Administrative Case: ADKT 0594
Short Caption: IN THE MATTER OF THE REVIEW OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE BAR EXAMINATION AND LICENSING OF ATTORNEYS IN NEVADA Court: Supreme Court
Classification: Administrative – ADKT – ADKT Case Status: ADKT Order Filed
Filed Date: 03/09/2022 Public Hearing:
Closed Date:
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Docket Entries
Date Type Description Pending? Document
03/09/2022 Administrative Case Filed Order Establishing Commission to Study the Administration of the Bar Examination and Licensing of Attorneys. 22-07549
03/25/2022 Administrative Case Filed Order Appointing Member to Commission to Study the Administration of the Bar Examination and Licensing of Attorneys. Ryan Works is hereby appointed as a member of the Commission to replace Philip Hymanson. 22-09369
07/27/2022 Administrative Case Filed Order Granting Extension of Time to File Commission Findings and Recommendations. The Commission shall file the report on its findings and recommendations with this court no later than November 30, 2022. 22-23543
03/14/2023 Administrative Case Filed Order Regarding Modified July 2022 Nevada Bar Examination (filed April 21, 2022 in July 2022 bar file). 23-07733
03/14/2023 Administrative Case Filed Order (filed November 16, 2022 in February 2023 bar file). 23-07735
03/30/2023 Administrative Case Filed Commission Report to Nevada Supreme Court. 23-09738
04/19/2023 Administrative Case Filed Order Appointing Task Forces. 23-12141
04/02/2024 Administrative Case Filed Foundational Subject Requirement and Performance Test Implementation Task Force and the Supervised Practice Task Force Joint Report. 24-11608
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Who are lawyers on each side of Prince custody dispute?
Dylan is now represented by Tom Standish. His previous attorney was Gerald Hardcastle, former family court judge.
Dana Ann Dwiggins represents Paul Page. The minor children also have attorneys as does Ashley’s sister.
Ashley’s sister has Jason Naimi.
Standish doesn’t work cheap. This litigation is going to continue for years.
The Pages seem like decent folk. What a freaking mess.
Ashley and Dylan’s minor children were assigned a Legal Aid attorney to represent them in the custody case.
Lawyer killed in dispute at McDonalds ( its in Houston).
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/05/08/mcdonalds-shooting-houston-texas/73612663007/
I saw this. He worked for Lewis Brisbois. He sounded like a nice guy.
With all the videos of rage, yelling, assaults on employees and people jumping the counters of fast food restaurants, for months now, if I am doing fast food, its drive thru or curbside PERIOD.
No need to endanger yourself by going inside and witness or become involved anymore. Eff that noise!
I’m a paralegal wants to go to law school. What lawyers are eating fast food? Should I go in another career?
I am a partner in a law firm. I eat fast food regularly because it it yummy and convenient.
The onion rings at Sonic!!!
Are vastly outclassed by the sonic rings at Habit.
I’m at my desk eating bell peppers right now. I have radically re-oriented my life so that I only eat junk food on Saturdays. Guess what I think about every other day of the week? And dream about? And plan for? Onion rings? I’d give a pint of blood for an order right now.
This is the best way to make unhealthy food the most enjoyable. I’ve done the diet yo yo thing for many years, and often have the “free day.” Nothing is better than a good pizza after you’ve been eating clean for six days. As the kids say these days it “hits different”.
Onion Rings!
When I lived Kansas City, there was a local BBQ restaurant that would serve a foot high stack of onion rings. Not over-fried, or soggy. The best ever with ribs and Tanqueray tonic with a lime garnish.
Onion rings at Freddy’s are pretty good.
All of them.
fast food is eaten far to often… because I am working through lunch. Just a fact of the profession.
Yes but not because we all eat fast food.
I rarely go to the mall, concerts or theaters. I order online and watch Netflix.
Hahahah we’re quite a group – all politics n legal n world n not much to say – but mention onion rings!…
11:33 here. Let me just say that the Family meal deal at Habit is likely the most slept-on value in fast food. 4 burgers that are pretty good, 4 fries, and either a salad or a 10 piece chicken, all for $40. Order ahead, and it’s ready for pickup in 10 minutes on any given night. Skip the calorie-laden sodas, we have water at home.
Although I hadn’t seen him in more than ten years, I know I’ll miss him forever.
I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?
Brilliant!
The news needs a dedicated legal reporter. “guardians at liable” is not a thing.
I feel like Guardian at liable would make a fantastic handle for an additional law blogger.
He / She could be the CTO – Chief Thwack Officer.
The RJ’s site contains a link to the recording of the informational meeting. It should be required viewing for anyone engaging in the discussion (either for or against). Significant items from my view:
Temple with a roof height of 68 feet that meets the residency-adjacent standards. Unmentioned: the residency adjacent standards were recently amended to allow for setback/height ratios, instead of a hard 35 foot limit. It meets the amended standards.
Height – The steeple goes from 68 feet to 188 feet. The spire on top of the steeple goes from 188 feet to 216 feet.
Temple + meetinghouse + pavilion – So it isn’t just the temple being used 5 days a week, this is going to see heavy use all week long. Except for Monday (does anyone still do Family Home Evening?) Lots of parking, though.
Pavilion – What the freak is up with the ritzy meetinghouses getting pavilions? Let us propose a moratorium on pavilions in favor of general commercial janitorial services.
Landscaping – there’s a lot of large trees involved here next to the perimeter wrought iron fencing.
Views – they showed CAD 3-d renderings trying to show 3 the impact on views. It was helpful to see, but didn’t have the most significant angle: from the east near street-level, looking west towards Lone Mountain. This is the view most people are concerned with and whether Lone Mountain will be blocked. It’s also a view that is most prominently owned by vacant BLM land, so there’s that.
I wish more meetinghouses had pavilions. They are great for social events. I wish my meetinghouse had one. I have fond memories of bbq’s at our wardhouse pavilion growing up. They seem to be kind of rare outside of Utah. Weather in the fall and spring, like right now, is perfect for pavilions.
Also significant:
The temple site isn’t in the rural preservation area. There has been a lot of misleading information spread about this.
The temple site doesn’t fall within the scope of the inter local agreement. The IA applies only to commercial and industrial development, not houses of worship.
The Planning Commission and City Council will approve this project. And they should. It complies with all relevant codes and zoning regulations. It will be interesting to see if any of the opponent neighbors try to file suit. Seems like that suit would be a real long shot.
The church rarely moves this far down the line without all of the ducks being in a row, legally speaking. The opposition, noisy as it may be, is a relatively small group of church haters backed by a relatively powerful group of ex-mos.
This opposition is a Non issue and a non story. This project is happening whether we like it or not. Legally speaking, 1150 is correct. It probably should happen.
Those living in the general area should STFU and watch their homes skyrocket in value.
The exmo group is loud, but not powerful.
Touche’.
“Shut up and just let it happen. You’ll appreciate the money afterwards.”
My brother in Christ, maybe people care about more than just money.
It’s clear that particular mormon @1:34 don’t. And having known and worked with quite a few mormons in this town, alot of them don’t. Care about more than just money, that is. What wonderful representatives of their cult I mean faith.
“Church haters” lmao based on what? This is probably my single biggest criticism of the LDS church, they can dish it but can’t take it. Just because someone isn’t totally on board with a behemoth church in their residential neighborhood doesn’t automatically make them a hater of religion.
Newsflash to Mormons: to a majority of people in this valley, there is more to life than just religious fanfare.
Eh, there’s more than a little church hatin’ going on. I’ve seen people advocate that it doesn’t belong anywhere, not just their little slice of rural heaven (that is like 700 feet from full-scale housing developments). I’ve seen people claim that the sight of a temple would be traumatic to ex-mos, and why won’t the Mormons take that into account! I think there are valid concerns about the height, lighting, etc. I think in general, those valid concerns have not been expressed very well. Concerns about the height have been overblown as people try to compare the height of the extremely narrow spire to the Durango casino. On the other hand, members have tried to downplay concerns about the height of the steeple which is twice the height of the building itself. Maybe a little moderation is needed? I mean, the spire of Notre Dame cathedral was 256 feet tall from the floor, but the main structure itself was 211 feet.
I don’t think anybody would complain if they put it next to Circus Circus.
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Yeah, you better not look at the FB groups opposing the temple, their affiliates, their “news” and financial supporters. Besides the lone local news snippet on their website, their main “story” is an exmo anti-church podcast.
I can assure you that those dishing it and not taking it are those vocally opposing this building. I can assure you that most of us, just want to be left alone and DGAF about your hate or your religious preference.
This is exactly right. The opposition is 10% actual neighbors, 90% out of town exmos brigading the issue.
I mean, 90% of the Mormons brigading the issue also do not live in the neighborhood so this isn’t a fair criticism. If you want to leave it to strictly the Lone Mountain Stake and the neighbors I’m sure proportionally the opposition and support ratios would remain unchanged.
The number of Mormons who live in the area and will use that temple dwarf the actual number of objecting neighbors. The northwest valley has at least 5 stakes: Meadows, Lone Mountain, Elk Springs, Tule Springs and Skye Canyon. The actual temple district will be much larger, around 12+ stakes. The Mormons speaking up, including myself, live there.
Which brings me to another gripe. People keep saying “the residents” are against the temple as if there was some kind of unified position in the neighborhood itself. Also false. There are at least SEVEN wards in the immediate rural neighborhood preservation. Those Mormons with TR’s alone dwarf the actual opposition. A more accurate statement is that some neighbors oppose and some neighbors support.
Except that its not only members in the immediate area that legitimately want this.
Apples and oranges.
Sure. Except that one of the rallying cries against it has been “BUT OUR VIEWS OF THE MOUNTAIN!” The same view shared by most everyone else in the valley. If you want to claim that you are opposed because of a view issue, you need to allow for others with the same view issue who are in favor, whether they live in the immediate area or not.
And that podcast grossly misrepresented the zoning status, laws etc. That’s a big reason the City had to have the Virtual Town hall the other night, to counter the wild misinformation that this out-of-town, exmo brigading podcast and others have spread.
and 1,000 other topics since its inception.
A mormon saying “we just want to be left alone” is probably the richest sentence I’ve read in a while. Thanks for the morning laugh, I needed it.
Glad you laughed. I dont get it . . . .
There is literally a program run by the Mormon church that sends between 50,000-75,000 missionaries worldwide at any given time to knock on doors and bring their religion to others. Not really a “want to be left alone” philosophy.
That is funny. These same missionaries are more than happy to politely pass you by, when you express disinterest.
Leave us alone. But, if you want, you are free to join us or if you are interested, we are happy to tell you about it.
PS: Your logic sucks.
Lol you don’t get to have your Mormon cake and eat it too. Missionary work and a philosophy of “wanting to be left alone” are mutually exclusive. Pick one.
Not in my world.
Leave me TF alone is just fine, unless you want in. Then its all good.
Not my fault that you are so closed minded. But hey, do you and leave me out of it.
What part of knocking on my door is me “wanting to be let in” or Mormons asking to “be left alone??? As an inactive member who gets hit up by both the sisters and the elders every month and a half when there is a transfer, even though I’ve asked to be left alone, where is the “politely passing me by” you referenced? Don’t gaslight me, bruh. I served a mission. I know the gig.
There are steps you can take to stop the contacts and you know it. Its not that hard to figure out. You could have done in the time it took you to post your whiny rant, bruh.
Good for you.
But you’ve contradicted yourself. You’ve said if I asked to be left alone they would leave me alone. I have asked to be left alone more times than I can count and they have not left me alone. In fact, they’ve actively worked to transfer my membership records through 4 different moves across 3 different states without my consent. And you now acknowledge that don’t leave me alone in contradiction to your earlier statements. Instead you tell me that I should be required to draft legal correspondence signed before a notary as a prerequisite to being left alone–what kind of organization requires such hoops? Certainly not one that values the importance of wanting to be “left alone.”
Where the H did I say any of that?
I said that there is a process “steps you can take”. Figure it out or continue to suffer . . . . oh, yeah and publicly bitch and whine about it. No notary required.
Exmo’s are insufferable, to a man/woman.
While you are at it, you might want to look into HOW your records are following you without your consent.
My money is on a family member is ratting you out every time that you move.
not op, but boy, mo mos sure love to rat on each other. Almost like its encouraged.
Its his family, so it a they thing, not a church thing. I have been party to many “Do Not Contacts” and its just not that tough and they are almost universally respected.
No. Just no. “Do not contact” is interpreted within the community as “Do not contact (right now but just in case you change your mind we will check in with you periodically)”
Not according to official policy and handbooks. Missionaries are supposed to follow the handbooks.
This TEMPLE is similiar in its foot print to the new one in Cedar City. It is absolutely stunning. New Temples are on economic boom to the adjacent areas. There will be lots of retired RICH church members from out of town who will be drawn to it.
I am not LDS.
The property values will go sky high.
There are not as many church members here proportionately as in years gone by. But Mormons do vote and their block vote in primaries can be a killer.
Its been consistently ±8-8.5% of the valley for several decades. Not going up or down much.
I’m LDS, and it’s gone down through a combination of the growth of the valley outpacing the growth of the Church and attrition of Church members. The LDS Church is losing members, although not at the pace of other churches or religions. Yes, we are still a significant part of the community both in number and in our contributions. This town is transient and the LDS community has provided stability to civic institutions for many decades.
Church, temple, I don’t really give a shit what you call it, it’s still an absolutely enormous structure whichever way you slice it, and it impacts vast swaths of residents.
And this econ argument I here regurgitated by every tom, dick, and harry supporting this whole proposal, but no one bothers to back that up with any statistics. “Trust me bro, these houses are gonna be worth MILLIONS.” Lol, okay? Don’t really buy it. It’s all anecdotal nonsense from LDS members saying “oh my sister’s husband’s cousin’s kids heard x, y, z.”
Yeah, sure.
You are clearly emotional about this whole thing. So take a breath.
Las Vegas has a temple in East LV and if you objectively look at the value of the surrounding homes over the years, you will see what is being talked about. Happens all over the country when temples are built adjacent to neighborhoods.
Its actually easy to do, if you want to. Also, its not a stretch to believe that the same effect will take place at Lone Mountain.
Again, a vague argument filled with assumptions. Even an elementary-aged child knows that correlation does not equal causation.
You expect people to side with you based on that? That’s the best argument? And you’re surprised you’re getting pushed back? Lol get a grip.
Wow, you said all them words without actually debating the point.
You got skills, amiga. Skills.
There’s nothing to debate, because no facts have been presented… but keep parroting the typical talking points. I’d expect nothing less from a multi-billion dollar corpor… I mean church
There it is. The hate. ExMo, much?
I wish I had the honor of calling myself one, but nah just a gentile that calls them like he sees them. Tends to happen when you are part of an organization with billions on its balance sheet lol.
. . . . and still spend billions in humanitarian aid.
Impressive.
I am of the firm belief that any church member that sits on any amount money while even one child goes hungry in this world will have as much chance of getting into whatever heaven they believe in as I do of dunking flat-footed on a 45 foot rim.
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Here is what CHAT GPT has to say when asked:
What effect does the building of a LDS temple typically have on residential property values in a given neighborhood
The effect of building a Latter-day Saints (LDS) temple on residential property values can vary depending on several factors, including the location of the temple, the characteristics of the neighborhood, and local market conditions. However, there are some common trends that have been observed in areas where LDS temples are constructed:
1. **Increase in Property Values**: In many cases, the construction of an LDS temple can lead to an increase in residential property values in the surrounding area. This is often because temples are considered prestigious and desirable landmarks, and their presence can enhance the overall appeal of the neighborhood.
2. **Boost in Demand**: The construction of a temple may attract members of the LDS community who want to live closer to the temple for convenience and accessibility. This increased demand for housing in the area can drive up property prices.
3. **Improved Infrastructure and Amenities**: In anticipation of the temple construction, local governments and developers may invest in improving infrastructure and amenities in the surrounding area. This can further enhance the attractiveness of the neighborhood and contribute to higher property values.
4. **Sense of Community**: LDS temples often become focal points for the local LDS community, fostering a sense of community and belonging among residents. This strong community spirit can positively influence perceptions of the neighborhood and contribute to higher property values.
5. **Potential Downsides**: While the overall impact of a temple on property values is often positive, there can be some downsides. Increased traffic and parking issues during peak times, as well as changes in the neighborhood’s character, may be concerns for some residents.
It’s important to note that the magnitude of the effect on property values can vary depending on the specific circumstances of each neighborhood and market dynamics. Additionally, the construction of a temple is just one of many factors that can influence property values, and other factors such as economic conditions, demographic trends, and the condition of the housing stock also play a significant role.
So! Suck it.
(That last part was me, not Chat GPT.)
I truly hope and pray you are not a barred attorney.
You . . . pray? Shoot, you cant even argue a counterpoint.
Wait. You dont even understand irony.
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You forget, I DGAF whether people side with me. I am more than sufficiently secure in my own opinions.
You clearly can’t do any research to validate your own opinion. So I doubly do not GAF.
Usually it’s the party attempting to build a multi-million dollar palace that has the burden of proof, but it’s pretty clear you don’t have any evidence to back up your claims. Sorry, better luck next time champ.
Because historical RE trends don’t count.
It’s both actually.
There will be both a church and a temple on this site.
So can we safely double the amount that you don’t give a shit?
“Heavy use” is likely a huge overstatement.
Anyone that lives near a meetinghouse (and who doesn’t) knows that the only “heavy use” is on Sundays and even then the parking lots are rarely overrun with traffic with maybe 300-500 people in the building. Call it 150-200 cars maximum) at any given block of time.
There will be a fraction of that (maybe 25%) even on the heaviest of evenings with weekly or holiday based activities or weddings.
The temple’s traffic will be nominal at best at any given timeframe.
Again, this whole debate is a non issue. It is happening.
I would venture that the church building gets only “heavy” use under 10 hours a week. Say 4 hours on sunday, then 2 hours on Tuesday and/or Wednesday. Other use sure, but not heavy.
Viewpoint protection is a very valid reason to deny development. Look it up. Everyone is entitled to the same view they had when they purchased their property, forever. Wait. None of that is right. It’s RLUPA time baby! If the politicians cave to the dissenters it will cost the government $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I hear the parties at temple pavilions are wild af though. The Pay Lay Ale chants can be heard for miles sometimes I hear.
I’m in the prime of my youth!
We still an update on the bar exam and what is going on with licensing of lawyers in Nevada.
Everyone should take a look at ADKT 0594 and the posts. Quite eye opening and informative.
Practitioners need to speak out. The academy has completely given up on gate keeping and screening in favor of revenue. It’s up to us to protect the public from incapable and incompetent practitioners.
There has been no official announcement about the Bar Exam Task Force and the report submitted to the Nevada Supreme Court. I wonder why that is. We hear crickets from the State Bar, the Board of Bar Examiners and the Board of Governors. It seems they don’t want this known or publicized.
Administrative Case: ADKT 0594
Short Caption: IN THE MATTER OF THE REVIEW OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE BAR EXAMINATION AND LICENSING OF ATTORNEYS IN NEVADA Court: Supreme Court
Classification: Administrative – ADKT – ADKT Case Status: ADKT Order Filed
Filed Date: 03/09/2022 Public Hearing:
Closed Date:
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+ Due Items
Docket Entries
Date Type Description Pending? Document
03/09/2022 Administrative Case Filed Order Establishing Commission to Study the Administration of the Bar Examination and Licensing of Attorneys. 22-07549
03/25/2022 Administrative Case Filed Order Appointing Member to Commission to Study the Administration of the Bar Examination and Licensing of Attorneys. Ryan Works is hereby appointed as a member of the Commission to replace Philip Hymanson. 22-09369
07/27/2022 Administrative Case Filed Order Granting Extension of Time to File Commission Findings and Recommendations. The Commission shall file the report on its findings and recommendations with this court no later than November 30, 2022. 22-23543
03/14/2023 Administrative Case Filed Order Regarding Modified July 2022 Nevada Bar Examination (filed April 21, 2022 in July 2022 bar file). 23-07733
03/14/2023 Administrative Case Filed Order (filed November 16, 2022 in February 2023 bar file). 23-07735
03/30/2023 Administrative Case Filed Commission Report to Nevada Supreme Court. 23-09738
04/19/2023 Administrative Case Filed Order Appointing Task Forces. 23-12141
04/02/2024 Administrative Case Filed Foundational Subject Requirement and Performance Test Implementation Task Force and the Supervised Practice Task Force Joint Report. 24-11608
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Just like that. Go Law Dawg!