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September 18, 2024 12:18 pm

Tupperware is good stuff. It was good in my mom’s day and it’s still good today. Are any of its competitors’ products as good? I know Rubbermaid isn’t as good.

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September 18, 2024 12:24 pm
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September 18, 2024 1:27 pm
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Picture is from 7 years ago. My guess would be late Kent Jasperson or Jennifer Klapper.

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September 18, 2024 2:09 pm
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No it’s not. It was posted 8 hrs ago.

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September 18, 2024 5:26 pm
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When I am wrong, I am wrong.

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September 18, 2024 12:52 pm

Policing is rotten to the core and needs to be reset.

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September 18, 2024 12:54 pm
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Kamala has a plan. Just defund it. Solved.

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September 18, 2024 1:43 pm
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This is disingenuous at best for someone with the means and baseline intellect of an attorney.

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September 18, 2024 1:45 pm
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Or maybe . . . its sarcasm.

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September 23, 2024 12:14 pm
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So you agree! You think you’re really pretty?*

*Kamala Harris has no plans to defund the police.

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September 18, 2024 1:05 pm

A Cop stealing from cops. This guy is going to be an absolute hit with the fellas inside.

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September 18, 2024 1:21 pm

The Mormon Church hired Todd Bice to handle the lawsuit over their new temple. A-24-899510-J. Motion to Intervene filed yesterday

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September 18, 2024 1:28 pm
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God bless Todd Bice who takes on more cases that anyone I know. Does he sleep?

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September 18, 2024 4:52 pm
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I’m sure he’s probably made some sort of a deal with the demons he represents.

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September 18, 2024 5:27 pm
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No one seems to be calling in his Faustian bargain then because he continues to slay.

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September 18, 2024 1:35 pm
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Both the church and the City are pointing out that NRPA didn’t exist at the time of the challenged hearings, therefore could not have appeared at the hearings and lacks standing. The church also pointed out that the deadline to bring any actions by the folks who where there expired on August 11. Also, that the church should have been named as a party, weren’t, and that failure strips the court of jurisdiction.

Chances of this getting kicked on jurisdiction or standing? Seems like a reasonable argument.

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September 18, 2024 2:04 pm
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That’s too bad because apparently, the Mormon Church bribed city council members.

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September 18, 2024 2:53 pm
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It’s sad it is going to obstruct gorgeous strip view as if they don’t have enough LDS temples in town.

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September 18, 2024 3:01 pm
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Not sad in the slightest. The property values are going to skyrocket as a result of this building.

Clearly the church does not have enough, that is why they are building another one.

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September 18, 2024 3:06 pm
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Of course, the corporate and church greed. $$$. F the environment, the neighbors, and let’s build on every land that has a view (just like the Desert Breeze park expansion and “event center.” )

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September 18, 2024 3:09 pm
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Cry harder.

Exactly how is building a temple that does not and will never generate ANY revenue whatsoever, constitute church greed?

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September 18, 2024 3:22 pm
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If you don’t like the LDS Church, it’s obligatory to talk about “greed” while sprinkling in references to the institution as a “corporation” as opposed to a religion. Whether it’s on point or not is kind of irrelevant.

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September 18, 2024 3:31 pm
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All that money being spent for what? My goodness the number of starving and dying people that money might save is staggering. That is the greed you are missing. Building a temple to glorify the money your church has is ALL I see.

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September 18, 2024 3:43 pm
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That’s because you do not understand what happens inside. You should definitely attend the open house when it occurs.

We clearly differ in what the church “glories” with the building of this temple.

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September 18, 2024 4:53 pm
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Oh, I’ve read enough stories about what happens inside, money and piousness can’t wash those stains off my friend.

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September 18, 2024 6:26 pm
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Plenty of sub rosa video of what goes on in your temples. And let me tell ya, it still looks bad from the outside.

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September 18, 2024 8:03 pm
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“sub rosa” lol.

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September 18, 2024 6:29 pm
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you mean the “sealing”?

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September 18, 2024 3:47 pm
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If you think that’s outrageous, you’re gonna be pissed about all the money Mary spent to on ointment for Jesus’ feet!

14 After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death.

2 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people.

3 And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head.

4 And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this waste of the ointment made?

5 For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her.

6 And Jesus said, Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me.

7 For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always.

8 She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying.

9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

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September 18, 2024 4:52 pm
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Yeah but I am an atheist, so there you go.

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September 18, 2024 8:02 pm
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Doesn’t matter. One of the morals is that its lame to criticize the way that others choose to go about doing good. I’m surprised someone has to spell this out for you. You don’t have to believe in God to get that from the passage. Or maybe you do.

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September 19, 2024 8:22 am
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But that is a dumb moral principle. Of course it is fair to look at the manner in which people “do good.” I have no problem questioning whether Kenneth Copeland or the sneaker preachers are “doing good” in the way they are “doing good.”

That said, when looking at the expenditure on temples, I think most members don’t understand the importance of the temple rituals to the mormon faith so they will never find them justified. As an atheist I find most religious rituals silly but none much more silly than the other. The religions can spend their money how they please, it is none of my damn business. The neighbors can protest it within the confines of land use laws and that is where it should end.

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September 19, 2024 9:40 am
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Is it a dumb moral principle? Your answer gets at the heart of why it isn’t. The men criticizing the woman for spending substantial money on ointment for Jesus’ feet did not understand what that act meant to her or to Jesus. To them, it was, in your parlance “silly” or even wasteful.

You yourself acknowledge that others “don’t understand the importance of the temple rituals to the mormon faith.” What I am here to tell you, as a card carrying member, is that the rituals in the temple help me become a better person. We all know the next retort- “But there are other ways to become a better person.” Yes, of course. But this is a way that resonates with me. That it isn’t the *exclusive* way to self actualization or spiritual growth does not diminish that it is *a way*. People who attend the temple become better parents, spouses, neighbors and community members. Everyone benefits from that, even if the robes and ritual seem completely nutty and absurd to you. I don’t believe that Jesus literally becomes a wafer during the Eucharist, but others do, and find it meaningful. It is something that is transformative to them, and I am grateful for the way it helps them, and in turn improves society for all of us. The same can be said of Jewish people who choose to not use electronics from sundown to sundown on Friday and Saturday.

Now, as to helping the poor, we return again to Jesus and the ointment. The Catholic Church builds ornate houses of worship, perhaps the most ornate of any major religion. Yet, there is a good argument to be made that the Catholic Church does more to improve the human condition than any other private entity on the planet. Look at the sprawling network of hospitals and schools and charities that the Catholic Church operates. They have ornate Cathedrals and expansive charities. One does not take away from the other. If anything, these seemingly divergent operations create a spiritual synergy.

As a Mormon, I hope that someday we can match the awesome reach of the Catholic Church to do good. Our Church does collaborate heavily with Catholic Charities of Southern Nevada. I have lived in wards where missionaries were sent to work with CCSN because for whatever reason (usually health) the missionary could not be sent out of state or overseas. Anyone who has served in a bishopric or Relief Society has seen the quiet, private way that fast offerings help those in need. I have volunteered with members of my ward on numerous ocassions to staff food banks and hand outs for the community. This past Saturday, my stake volunteered hundreds of man hours to spruce up Floyd Lamb Park. We sponsor blood drives, make blankets for the homeless and help staff kitchens to feed the homeless here in Las Vegas. The Church funds the education of its members in third world countries through BYU Pathway and the Perpetual Education Fund. I am really proud of that, in particular. The Church operates the BYUs, heavily subsidized. The Church engages in expansive charity efforts, in spite of what critics say.

Yes, we have ornate temples. They are created to honor God and to create a space for spiritual growth and development. We also are out there, putting our shoulder to the wheel, doing significant work for the community and poor.

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September 18, 2024 5:05 pm
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How do you think the money comes in to build these temples? There’s generation of revenue and by taking what 15 percent of the member’s salary yearly?

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September 19, 2024 10:01 am
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You are just being nasty. Stop it.
Nothing is taken, it is given, willingly and you know it.

Tithes have been around for centuries.

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September 18, 2024 6:28 pm
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If there are more temples, do they get to sell more temple recommends?

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September 18, 2024 3:09 pm
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Dude, I’m a member, and I really, really hate this claim. 1. I don’t know that it’s true. 2. Even if true, so what? The people’s concerns should not be brushed off with “oh, but think of your equity!” That’s just disrespectful.

People have the right to determine for themselves how much their property values factor into their quality of life. Maybe they prefer the smell of fresh country horse manure to a 15% bump in the value of a home they never intend to sell during their lifetime.

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September 18, 2024 3:12 pm
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Agreed. This is a terrible, terrible argument. I’m a card carrying (literally) member. That said, these NIMBYs are off their rockers. The Church complied with all zoning laws. Kind of hope Judge Israel puts them on blast.

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September 18, 2024 5:31 pm
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Asking Judge Israel to decide anything is a coin flip. I had an MSJ in front of him not long ago that was complex and nuanced on both sides with requests for relief in the alternative. We got a Minute Order before the hearing that simply said “Motion Granted.” Which motion? Which form of relief? Which basis did you find persuasive? I ran into my Opposing Counsel in court and judge shrugged at her.

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September 18, 2024 3:13 pm
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Don’t care if you like the argument or not. But, as far as its truth, its happened historically in every single instance. Including here in Las Vegas.

People have the right to cry and whine. . . . . and move. The Church owns its property and has the right to build as permitted.

People have the right to cope or move. I am tired of this debate. Its happening, there is nothing that anyone can do about it and crying about it is just noise and fixes nothing.

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September 18, 2024 3:16 pm
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Card carrying member here (again). “But, as far as its truth, its happened historically in every single instance.” Really? People keep saying this. Maybe its true, but I’ve never seen ANY OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE to support it. Citation please?

And again, some people don’t value a rise in the equity in their property. This argument comes off as super arrogant. And I’m somebody who thinks the NIMBYs are a bunch of idiots. The only argument that matters is that (1) there are laws on land use; (2) the Church complied with those laws; (3) the Church’s interest is protected by the Constitution and RLUIPA. Everything else is irrelevant, especially this stupid argument. In fact, this “your home values will increase” argument is really just the philosophies of men, mingled with scripture.

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September 18, 2024 3:24 pm
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Nothing is irrelevant.

Do some historical research. Here is one. Ask Floyd Hale what happened to his home’s value when the Sunrise Mountain temple was built.

We are in agreement on your 1, 2, 3. But just because you think that the argument that values will increase is stupid doesn’t make it irrelevant or false.

It may be a read herring that matters not to the NIMBYs, but the assertion that this is truth watered down with falsehood is nonsense.

The point of the home values argument is that if the locals don’t like it, take the increase and move away. Its that simple.

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September 18, 2024 3:28 pm
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“The point of the home values argument is that if the locals don’t like it, take the increase and move away.” Card carrying member here. Did you sleep in the day 1L Property covered the section in the hornbook on real property being unique?

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September 18, 2024 3:33 pm
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I also was around when we covered zoning and land use and in Real estate Transactions, Real Estate Finance and PropI and PropII.

The non-fungibility of Real Property is irrelevant to the churches permitted use of ITS property. Nor is it relevant to my “if you don’t like it, take the money and run” advice.

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September 18, 2024 3:34 pm
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Fine. But to say “if you don’t like it, take the money and run” comes off as very dickish, with all due respect to President Nixon.

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September 18, 2024 3:40 pm
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You’re not the first person to call me dickish and honestly, I am not afraid of that.

I just don’t have an ounce of patience for carrying signs and whining to the news about something that cannot be stopped. If I did not want to live there in the shadow of the temple, I would wait a reasonable time, catch the gains and move.

As it sits, I am looking for a home or a lot in the area as are several friends and family members.

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September 18, 2024 3:45 pm
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How far away for the Temple site is too far? Asking for a friend…

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September 18, 2024 3:52 pm
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Correlation is not causation. Church builds in upscale part of town. Time passes. Property values in upscale part of town increase in value. Was the presence of the temple a significant factor in that increase?

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September 18, 2024 4:56 pm
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Don’t worry. The church is contracting rapidly. This temple will be mothballed in less than 20 years. They’re just building this temple so Nelson can beat Hinckley in the numbers game and so they can launder money from their Ensign Peak fund to closely held construction companies/materials distributors.

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September 19, 2024 9:36 am
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Agree with the first part, but has there been any evidence that the church launders money to their preferred vendors?

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September 19, 2024 10:04 am
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Funny, I have heard this predicted.

Oh, yeah . . . wheat from the chaffe.

That’s it.

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September 18, 2024 5:27 pm
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Was this sarcasm? Because there is one LDS Temple currently in town.

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September 18, 2024 2:43 pm
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I’m pretty apathetic to religion, but this whole temple fight seems really ugly to me. I guess I don’t get it. It’s a big pretty building that’s rarely busy, there isn’t much traffic, and when there are people around, they’re all dressed nicely and there’s no drinking or partying. How is that not a good neighbor? Would they be fighting a condo building with as much vigor?

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September 18, 2024 2:50 pm
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My grandmother, a Presbyterian, lived across the street from a Jewish Temple. The building was gorgeous, the only day there was traffic was on Saturday, and in 50 years, there was not one negative interaction. The perfect neighbor.

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September 18, 2024 3:19 pm
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Some people like to be victims. Other people, like your grandmother and the neighboring Jewish community, just like to enjoy life. The great thing is that each of us gets to choose which path to take! Shalom!

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September 18, 2024 3:13 pm
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A lot of this was driven by out of state critics of the Church, who goaded one around 100 nearby neighbors.

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September 18, 2024 3:13 pm
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*on

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September 18, 2024 3:14 pm
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Very true. Just look at their social pages. Pushed by a very Anti-LDS podcast.

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September 18, 2024 3:25 pm
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September 18, 2024 9:11 pm
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This. The opposition is organized and opposes every single temple the church announces. Even in small town Utah. The arguments are always exactly the same. Height, noise, lighting, crowds, etc. None of which are actually true. They got a town in Texas to actually deny the church. Now that town will get to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in Court before ultimately losing. These people don’t actually care about these towns. They are pawns.

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September 19, 2024 9:51 am
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“These people don’t actually care about these towns.”

This is exactly right. The allegation that the Church bribed the City Council originated with one of these out of state podcasts. They convinced some of the neighbors that bribery really did happen. Now the Petitioners in the lawsuit actually allege in their Petition that the Church funneled bribes to the City Council through Kaempfer Crowell. And where are these out of state podcasters now? Backing the lawsuit? Offering up evidence in support? Helping to fund it? Nope. Crickets. They have left the actual neighbors high and dry with their asses hanging out in the wind. The podcast has moved on no other focus on stopping other temples in other locations.

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September 18, 2024 2:04 pm

Case number?

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September 18, 2024 3:03 pm

Checked the court docket and didn’t see?

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September 18, 2024 3:18 pm
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Sounds like fake news.

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September 18, 2024 4:43 pm

Source or thwack

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September 18, 2024 5:04 pm

I have. It’s not there. Case number or you’re just trolling.

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September 18, 2024 5:05 pm

I did. Nada.

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September 18, 2024 7:08 pm

Anyone see Diddy was arrested? And this moron was already out of country. Means Feds have leverage, possibly with his sons. Expect him to be Epsteined very soon, as he was denied bail.

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September 18, 2024 11:22 pm

The County is looking for a Probate Commissioner. Are they replacing the existing one, or actually hiring a 2nd one FINALLY after 5 years of us complaining that it is long overdue?

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September 19, 2024 6:27 am
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Hiring a second one

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September 19, 2024 9:52 am
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September 19, 2024 9:53 am
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I’d be happy for one 3/4 as good as Fontano.

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September 19, 2024 9:48 am
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Fontano was doing such a good job managing his caseload and working through the backlog, I was fearful that he would be punished for his success and we wouldn’t get a second commissioner. It will be interesting to see how they divide the case load. Do they just split it 50/50? Or some other arrangement where one handles uncontesteds, and the other handles courts discretion? 50/50 probably works best.

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September 19, 2024 10:40 am
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Or do they handle it like Discovery/ADR Commissioners where a Commissioner is assigned to certain departments handling probate.

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September 19, 2024 11:08 am
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Right now, there are three departments. So each would handle 1.5 departments then? One department would have to be split.