Although not to the level of jumping the bench, I have seen dozens of losses of temper in family court and only seen one guy charged. Dad who attacked judge moss’ bailiff long ago. IMHO that sentence is vastly out of proportion.
I’ll go a step further, the sentence is appalling in comparison to sentences handed down to rapists, serial burglars, etc. And I’m a hard line conservative who thinks most criminals deserve to have the book thrown at them. Just wild.
Last week a child rapist got a suspended 2-5 year sentence in dept. 27. I understand Johnson making an example of this guy, but sentencing someone to 26 years for battery upon a person over 60? Both protected classes of victims, vastly different applications.
@12:09 whether I agree with you or not, your analysis is wrong and you should be embarrassed. Regardless of whether 11:40 won or lost, the incoming administration includes several individuals who have credible claims of SA against them. Those are not mutually exclusive conditions and, in fact, neither has any bearing on the other.
If was referring to cases where found liable he would’ve said found guilty/liable but he said credible bc he was referring claims. The unadjudicated claims strike me as suspicious. Don’t change the object of your reference and then try to maintain the same argument rookie.
@12:54
Repeating, you lost. Get over yourself. “Credible”, in your world is inuendo by NBC, CBS etc. That’s not a legal standard, nor even a journalistic standard, long abandoned by the popular press.
Moreover, consider that appointments must be confirmed by elected officials, many of whom don’t like the incoming President.
The judiciary always looks out for itself. There’s a reason they’re not subject to ethics rules and statutes or public records statutes. Because they say so.
Yeah…weird how that guy is basically going to die in jail and then the sicko that attacked, raped, and almost killed the therapist is getting a slap on the wrist? wtf
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December 11, 2024 9:59 am
The fact that Kroger has to pay Albertson’s a $600 million dollar breakup fee brings a smile to my face. Kroger sucks. They’ve destroyed every little regional supermarket chain throughout the country. Good on the FTC, we need more antitrust actions in this country. Too many monopolies, not enough competition.
I could generally agree with you that we need more antitrust. However in this case I tend to agree with Kroger that they are not competing with straight grocers; they are competing with Costco, Wal-Mart/Sams and Amazon.
Maybe Kroger has an argument there with regards to their attempted merger. But the reason they aren’t going against straight grocers…. is because they and/or WalMart already bought all the straight grocers. They’re extinct.
I remember when we had 3 different grocery chains in my hometown 10-12 years ago. And then Kroger bought every last one of them.
Yeah, I wonder how long it’ll be before FTC Trustbuster Lina Khan is run out of town by DJT. Make America Great Again! Yeah — great for the plutocrats. The irony is, people voted for DJT because of inflation. We need to bring civics and economics back to high school!!!
No argument on the civics and economics to the schools. But, if you think that Inflation is the only push for DJT, you’re asleep. The number one issue for such voters?
Border security.
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December 11, 2024 10:11 am
Rare that I agree so thoroughly with Wolfson. It certainly is not enough. That poor dog didn’t deserve that.
Not Las Vegas, but the 5th Circuit just issued a per curiam affirmance after it gave up trying to issue an opinion after 18 months. Eight wanted to affirm. Eight wanted to reverse. One wouldn’t vote. https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/17/17-20545-CV3.pdf
The effect is that the lower court’s ruling is affirmed, and Exxon has to pay almost $20 million. There’s no real precedential effect, unless citing to “Exxon” for “affirmed because fuck you that’s why” is going to become a thing.
Kill a reporter, 28 years. Piss off a judge, 26 years. Of course I know it’s more serious than making a judge mad. But this seems like a 4-10 case max.
One thing I hate about legal system is no weight to the stress of life changing events I once was in an ante room in family court and father who lost custody was deep in pain. He started whispering I’ll fight em all referring to bailiffs. I calmed him down but had he lost temper for one second – life in prison. Cmon man. Hard to judge until u been in those shoes.
I didn’t say it’s not a lawful sentence just a ridiculous one. There’s a failure of common sense and judicial/prosecutorial discretion all along the way.
By no means excusing what happened to the judge, but 26 years is outrageous. There were clear mental health issues here and had they been appropriately addressed by the courts and counsel, this whole event could have been avoided. Judicial demeanor, or lack thereof, was definitely a factor. This would not have happened in most courtrooms. Again, not saying it was deserved, but if told the facts without identifying the judge, she would have been in my top 3 guesses.
I read the report prepared by Dr. Paglini. I feel incredible empathy for Mr. Redden on a human level. He was born addicted to crack. Neither of Mr. Redden’s parents wanted him. As a child Mr. Redden bounced from relative to relative and from school to school. Mr. Redden’s no longer wanted to care for him and he ended up in the foster system. The foster parent’s adopted Mr. Redden. Before Mr. Redden turned 18 he left his adoptive family to run the streets. This is a brief synopsis of Mr. Redden’s childhood excluding his mental health issues, criminal issues, employment issues, and sexual issues. Yes, the odds were stacked against him before he was born. It does not excuse his criminal behavior; it provides somewhat of an explanation. I find Dr. Paglini’s report to be well-written and thorough. Dr. Paglini’s opinion was that Mr. Redden knew right from wrong at the time he jumped Judge Holthus. I do not do criminal law, therefore, I am confident I am not qualified to render an opinion regarding the reasonableness or lack thereof regarding the length of Mr. Redden’s sentence.
I’m not unsympathetic to Mr. Redden’s circumstances, but he was also a lot better off than a lot of kids too. He was adopted. The woman who adopted him loved him so much that even after he left the home to enter a life of crime she appeared at his hearings to speak on his behalf. He had chances. The day he attacked Judge Holthus she went through a long list of criminal offenses for which he’d received next to no punishment. That’s why she was preparing to send him to jail. The system failed Mr. Redden by not giving him adequate punishment sooner. If he had been incarcerated for one of his earlier offenses maybe he would have learned his lesson. As it stands he wasn’t sentenced to jail time until it was too late, he wasn’t equipped for being held accountable, and he blew up and ruined his life as a result.
The system failed him by not giving him adequate punishment? WTF bruh? The system failed him the day he was born addicted to crack and left with parents that did not want him. It should not have taken years to get that kid into a safe, loving home. They knew the day he was born things weren’t right. Apparently you’ve missed the last 50 years of the war on crime not working at all and millions (billions?) of tax dollars being pumped into corrupt, violent criminal justice systems that do not protect our communities and do not deter crime. Redden has been held accountable for every single mistake that was committed in his entire generational line…and that was before the current sentence was handed down. He never had a chance and it had nothing to do with accountability or punishment and everything to do with neglect and fear and desperation.
I agree and there should be mitigation where no harm occurs to emotional outbursts during most trying times in one’s life. I want to see all these armchair qbs keep calm when they take away children life etc.
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December 12, 2024 9:55 am
Fascinating hearing this morning involving our favorite Reptile Advocate.
A-21-843639-B
Sean K Claggett & Associates LLC, Plaintiff(s) vs. D C Keenan & Associates PA, Defendant(s)
Apparently years and multiple lawsuits between these guys. This one appears to be a defamation one related to Claggett. In 2020, Keenan sued Claggett in Georgia federal court, generally alleging that Claggett misappropriated teaching materials. While that litigation was pending, Entrekin (allegedly on behalf of Keenan) sent an email through a private listserv claiming that Claggett was an unreliable instructor who intentionally misappropriated educational materials.
Keenan’s Kids Foundation v. Claggett 1:20-cv-01702-WMR (D. Georgia 2020 )
Sean K. Claggett & Assocs. v. Keenan, 2:21-cv-02237-GMN-DJA (D. Nev. 2021).
Keenan v. Claggett, Nevada Supreme Court No. 86174
Although not to the level of jumping the bench, I have seen dozens of losses of temper in family court and only seen one guy charged. Dad who attacked judge moss’ bailiff long ago. IMHO that sentence is vastly out of proportion.
I’ll go a step further, the sentence is appalling in comparison to sentences handed down to rapists, serial burglars, etc. And I’m a hard line conservative who thinks most criminals deserve to have the book thrown at them. Just wild.
I’m a pretty tough on crime conservative too. I also think that this sentence was egregious.
Last week a child rapist got a suspended 2-5 year sentence in dept. 27. I understand Johnson making an example of this guy, but sentencing someone to 26 years for battery upon a person over 60? Both protected classes of victims, vastly different applications.
I don’t understand why the 8th is so relaxed on child sex crimes. Rapists and abusers run amuck in this town.
. . . . in this country.
In the incoming administration.
@11:40
Just stop it. You lost.
@12:09 whether I agree with you or not, your analysis is wrong and you should be embarrassed. Regardless of whether 11:40 won or lost, the incoming administration includes several individuals who have credible claims of SA against them. Those are not mutually exclusive conditions and, in fact, neither has any bearing on the other.
Who determined “credible” seem very suspicious to me.
You mean juries?
If was referring to cases where found liable he would’ve said found guilty/liable but he said credible bc he was referring claims. The unadjudicated claims strike me as suspicious. Don’t change the object of your reference and then try to maintain the same argument rookie.
1) I’m 1:03 and that was my first post on the subject;
2) Can you translate your comment into English please?
You want to know why there are these kind of verdicts? These kind of people.
What kind of verdicts?
What kind of people?
Hahaha Right!
Because he sniffs the children ! ! ! ! !
@12:54
Repeating, you lost. Get over yourself. “Credible”, in your world is inuendo by NBC, CBS etc. That’s not a legal standard, nor even a journalistic standard, long abandoned by the popular press.
Moreover, consider that appointments must be confirmed by elected officials, many of whom don’t like the incoming President.
“Many” is doing a lot of heavy lifting to describe a body whose majority will bow and scrape before Orange Cheezus.
Susan Johnson..nuff said!
The judiciary always looks out for itself. There’s a reason they’re not subject to ethics rules and statutes or public records statutes. Because they say so.
Yeah…weird how that guy is basically going to die in jail and then the sicko that attacked, raped, and almost killed the therapist is getting a slap on the wrist? wtf
The fact that Kroger has to pay Albertson’s a $600 million dollar breakup fee brings a smile to my face. Kroger sucks. They’ve destroyed every little regional supermarket chain throughout the country. Good on the FTC, we need more antitrust actions in this country. Too many monopolies, not enough competition.
We will likely have less anti-trust going forward. Whoever has the most money will have less regulations and issues.
You’re probably right, I’m not exactly optimistic for the next few years on that front.
I could generally agree with you that we need more antitrust. However in this case I tend to agree with Kroger that they are not competing with straight grocers; they are competing with Costco, Wal-Mart/Sams and Amazon.
Kind of. You make an interesting argument, however. Kroger doesn’t compete directly with Costco or Amazon.
Maybe Kroger has an argument there with regards to their attempted merger. But the reason they aren’t going against straight grocers…. is because they and/or WalMart already bought all the straight grocers. They’re extinct.
I remember when we had 3 different grocery chains in my hometown 10-12 years ago. And then Kroger bought every last one of them.
Yeah. Town I grew up in had 2 indpendent grocery stores (part of associated foods),
Yeah, I wonder how long it’ll be before FTC Trustbuster Lina Khan is run out of town by DJT. Make America Great Again! Yeah — great for the plutocrats. The irony is, people voted for DJT because of inflation. We need to bring civics and economics back to high school!!!
No argument on the civics and economics to the schools. But, if you think that Inflation is the only push for DJT, you’re asleep. The number one issue for such voters?
Border security.
Rare that I agree so thoroughly with Wolfson. It certainly is not enough. That poor dog didn’t deserve that.
“DA Steve Woodson”? Who dat?
Correct link for Wolfson Article.
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/penalty-does-not-fit-the-crime-in-the-animal-cruelty-case-of-reba-da-says/
Not Las Vegas, but the 5th Circuit just issued a per curiam affirmance after it gave up trying to issue an opinion after 18 months. Eight wanted to affirm. Eight wanted to reverse. One wouldn’t vote.
https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/17/17-20545-CV3.pdf
So not dealing with appeals myself, let alone a Fed appeal. Whats the effect?
My gut tells me that its a punt to the SCOTUS.
The effect is that the lower court’s ruling is affirmed, and Exxon has to pay almost $20 million. There’s no real precedential effect, unless citing to “Exxon” for “affirmed because fuck you that’s why” is going to become a thing.
Very logical. Thank you.
Kill a reporter, 28 years. Piss off a judge, 26 years. Of course I know it’s more serious than making a judge mad. But this seems like a 4-10 case max.
For a plea to attempted murder + elderly enhancement? To say nothing of the other 6 counts?
One thing I hate about legal system is no weight to the stress of life changing events I once was in an ante room in family court and father who lost custody was deep in pain. He started whispering I’ll fight em all referring to bailiffs. I calmed him down but had he lost temper for one second – life in prison. Cmon man. Hard to judge until u been in those shoes.
I didn’t say it’s not a lawful sentence just a ridiculous one. There’s a failure of common sense and judicial/prosecutorial discretion all along the way.
By no means excusing what happened to the judge, but 26 years is outrageous. There were clear mental health issues here and had they been appropriately addressed by the courts and counsel, this whole event could have been avoided. Judicial demeanor, or lack thereof, was definitely a factor. This would not have happened in most courtrooms. Again, not saying it was deserved, but if told the facts without identifying the judge, she would have been in my top 3 guesses.
I read the report prepared by Dr. Paglini. I feel incredible empathy for Mr. Redden on a human level. He was born addicted to crack. Neither of Mr. Redden’s parents wanted him. As a child Mr. Redden bounced from relative to relative and from school to school. Mr. Redden’s no longer wanted to care for him and he ended up in the foster system. The foster parent’s adopted Mr. Redden. Before Mr. Redden turned 18 he left his adoptive family to run the streets. This is a brief synopsis of Mr. Redden’s childhood excluding his mental health issues, criminal issues, employment issues, and sexual issues. Yes, the odds were stacked against him before he was born. It does not excuse his criminal behavior; it provides somewhat of an explanation. I find Dr. Paglini’s report to be well-written and thorough. Dr. Paglini’s opinion was that Mr. Redden knew right from wrong at the time he jumped Judge Holthus. I do not do criminal law, therefore, I am confident I am not qualified to render an opinion regarding the reasonableness or lack thereof regarding the length of Mr. Redden’s sentence.
I’m not unsympathetic to Mr. Redden’s circumstances, but he was also a lot better off than a lot of kids too. He was adopted. The woman who adopted him loved him so much that even after he left the home to enter a life of crime she appeared at his hearings to speak on his behalf. He had chances. The day he attacked Judge Holthus she went through a long list of criminal offenses for which he’d received next to no punishment. That’s why she was preparing to send him to jail. The system failed Mr. Redden by not giving him adequate punishment sooner. If he had been incarcerated for one of his earlier offenses maybe he would have learned his lesson. As it stands he wasn’t sentenced to jail time until it was too late, he wasn’t equipped for being held accountable, and he blew up and ruined his life as a result.
The system failed him by not giving him adequate punishment? WTF bruh? The system failed him the day he was born addicted to crack and left with parents that did not want him. It should not have taken years to get that kid into a safe, loving home. They knew the day he was born things weren’t right. Apparently you’ve missed the last 50 years of the war on crime not working at all and millions (billions?) of tax dollars being pumped into corrupt, violent criminal justice systems that do not protect our communities and do not deter crime. Redden has been held accountable for every single mistake that was committed in his entire generational line…and that was before the current sentence was handed down. He never had a chance and it had nothing to do with accountability or punishment and everything to do with neglect and fear and desperation.
I agree and there should be mitigation where no harm occurs to emotional outbursts during most trying times in one’s life. I want to see all these armchair qbs keep calm when they take away children life etc.
Fascinating hearing this morning involving our favorite Reptile Advocate.
A-21-843639-B
Sean K Claggett & Associates LLC, Plaintiff(s) vs. D C Keenan & Associates PA, Defendant(s)
Spill the tea
Apparently years and multiple lawsuits between these guys. This one appears to be a defamation one related to Claggett. In 2020, Keenan sued Claggett in Georgia federal court, generally alleging that Claggett misappropriated teaching materials. While that litigation was pending, Entrekin (allegedly on behalf of Keenan) sent an email through a private listserv claiming that Claggett was an unreliable instructor who intentionally misappropriated educational materials.
Keenan’s Kids Foundation v. Claggett 1:20-cv-01702-WMR (D. Georgia 2020 )
Sean K. Claggett & Assocs. v. Keenan, 2:21-cv-02237-GMN-DJA (D. Nev. 2021).
Keenan v. Claggett, Nevada Supreme Court No. 86174
I’ll take Claggett’s side on this. As he makes adamantly clear, he is the living image of the almighty.