Zaon Collins sentenced for fatal crash. [RJ; KTNV]
According to this report, Tesla had a secret “diversion team” in Vegas that would try to get customers complaining about the range of their vehicles to cancel service appointments. [Reuters]
Opinion: gas stove legislation is bipartisan opportunity to preserve cooking choice for all Nevadans. [TNI]
Is there evidence of extraterrestrial life? Congress tries to figure it out. [Nevada Current]
Lawsuit filed as wild horse deaths hit 21 in eastern Nevada roundups. [8NewsNow]
I have seen these comments and have to make sure there is a qualifier of 100% correct about what? That there were sexual abuse scandals in the Catholic Church? Yes there were. She had a valid point. On so many other things she was 100% wrong, misguided, outlandish and indefensible. She was destroyed not by the demons of the outside but the demons inside herself. Yes rest in the peace that you never could find outside or inside of yourself.
Don't come in here flouting "She was 100% correct" but not be prepared to discuss the very topic that you brought up. We can agree that it is sad that she has died and send condolences to the family.
Cruelty to animals is an intentional depraved act. There was clear evidence in this case that Collins was under the influence but not that he caused the accident. There was accident reconstruction evidence that would have put into some question whether the other driver caused the accident.
The mens rea is not caring, when you don't care you are actively disregarding what will happen, to not act is to act, haven't you ever watched TV series Kung Fu
Without an express finding or admission of depraved indifference or similar, I am still hung up on the apparent lack of mens rea. Not caring is a thing for me as well, but I question the criminality of "not caring".
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
I don't know anything about the facts of this case. But if it is simple negligence with no aggravating factors (e.g. extreme speeding, etc.), then I have a hard time with jail. A simple rear-ender or a misjudged left turn shouldn't, without more, result in jail time.
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Anonymous
July 27, 2023 6:38 pm
I listened to 3 versions of this song yesterday as I explained to my kids: Sinead's, Prince's, and Chris Cornell's version. Each one has a unique quality, and Sinead's will always be the original in my mind, but Chris has a great version too.
I am of the opinion that Sinead's most successful hit was not even close to her best music.
Nonetheless, regarding the various versions:
Cornell
O'conner
Prince
But, no one can ever tell me that Cornell was not among the greatest musicians in the last 35 years.
109 here.
2 Clarifications.
One, I too, am Gen X and not a Boomer you Millennial prick.
Two, no one can tell me that that Cornell was not among the greatest musicians in the last 35 years and have me even come close to believing them.
1:09pm / 2:52pm here. I am trying to devil's advocate that statement, but I got nuthin. Maybe not ever, but certainly in the last 35 years.
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Anonymous
July 27, 2023 6:43 pm
Fuck Zaon Collins. Basura.
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Anonymous
July 27, 2023 7:15 pm
They will never take my gas stove. Ever. I will not comply. This is getting absolutely ridiculous. Why doesn't the government actually work on real problems, instead of legislating how I cook my food.
Makes me want to get a gas stove emissions tester and see for myself. Never know, people thought seatbelts was just government overreach. Some still do so there you go.
Hey 12:34 – seat belts are very clearly government overreach. Now, I personally would always wear a seat belt whenever I drive anywhere, but that is a personal choice. For instance, helmets are not required in AZ for motorcyclists, but most wear them anyway. Its not for the job of a government to create paternalistic laws to protect me against my own stupidity. I bet people that want the government to regulate our stoves are pro-marijuana.
You may reap the benefit of not being thrown out a vehicle, but I rather prefer that your seatbelt allows you to remain mostly in control of your vehicle, instead of being tossed around your cabin if you swerved or braked hard.
So, in other words, the requirement is there to protect me from your stupidity. If you don't want to wear a motorcycle helmet, fine. Just make sure to check off the organ donation box on your license.
There are social costs to wrecking your body because you're too stupid to wear a seatbelt. It increases everyone's auto insurance premiums. If you're on Medicaid or Medicare, it costs taxpayer money to treat you. If the accident disables you, you could get SSDI or workers' comp. You take up room in the hospital. You're less productive and produce less tax revenue. Many of the costs aren't borne by the person who chose not to wear a seatbelt, so it actually makes perfect sense to regulate it.
Working on that very thing. Society is horseshit and will kill itself.
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Anonymous
July 27, 2023 7:20 pm
"Cooking choice"? People are going to start saying they have a fundamental right to cook with gas.
Found the opinion piece par baked. Didn't address the health consequences of gas stoves (maybe we should just leave that to each person to assess for himself, but it should be part of the argument). Didn't address the fact that small energy savings across a range of appliances can in gross result in big energy savings. Didn't address induction stoves that are faster than gas stoves at boiling water.
At the end of the day I don't have a firm stance on the stove issue, but it's not persuasive to just ignore everything contrary to your position.
I suspect that it takes more energy to make the electricity (often by gas powered generators), and then heat an electric cooking element before you can cook, than: just lighting a burner on the gas stove.
Electric ranges are for apartment dwellers. I haven't seen any kitchens in mega mansions that feature electric stoves.
On the non-joking side, electric ranges are terrible. Gas allows you to quickly turn off the heat, regulate the heat better, simmer, etc. Induction ranges maybe the next hot item, but aside from boiling water quickly do not offer any advantages over the gas ranges, and you have to have an entirely new set of cookware that cannot be non-stick, which provides a different set of challenges.
@2:38p – that's pretty much the same argument against electric cars – at least one of them. I charge my electric car at home on a 240v charger in the evening when I'm home – like I do my phone overnight. My power doesn't come from solar panels, it may come from Wind but we don't have many of those in Southern Nevada. So most of my power to charge my car comes from "clean burning natural gas" (so they say on their website.) If it's so clean burning that it can be used to generate electricity to power my electric car, my iPhone, my air conditioners, etc, why is it a problem when used to cook with on the stove/oven? Arguments against natural gas and for electricity in the home, when electricity is generated using natural gas here, makes me hear the Wizard in the Wizard of Oz telling me not to pay attention to the man behind the curtain. It's crazy…..
@2:38
Unfortunately, generating electricity from gas, even it burns cleanly, is a net energy loss. There is no such thing as a 100% efficiency when the form of the energy is changed to another form. There is also a loss in transmission of electricity to the home of somewhere around 5%. Said simplistically, it takes more energy to cook with electricity than the energy required to cook directly from gas. Find a 9th grade science student to explain this to you.
It's wild that people are so upset about a stove. Gas stove or electric stove (powered by gas) probably isn't going to solve the issue. But at some point as a society we have to make changes that are more sustainable and eco friendly. People hate change, especially old people, but it's necessary. Just as there was no gas stoves how ever many years ago, there will be something better in the future if we allow progression. Instead of just worrying about our Exxon stocks and oil and gas futures
10:39 yes they want to control you, you probably don't even cook. Control is an issue but climate and pollution is definitely a concern, look at the oceans, forest, and ice caps
Meh. Climate change lost me for good when my Obama bought a multi million dollar mansion on Martha's Vineyard and I was able to get a mortgage on my Beach house on The Strand in Oceanside. If Bank of America ain't buying climate change, I am not buying it.
Until those pushing climate change stop flying on their private jets, we don't need to make any changes. The people on your tv telling you that you need to make changes cause more carbon to be emitted in a week than us common folks emit in multiple years.
Unless you live like the electricity-free Amish, shut up with your virtue-signaling save the environment nonsense. You're clearly not serious about walking your talk.
"Climate change is being used to control us through fear. Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop actual pollution." RFK Jr. – future POTUS 47.
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July 27, 2023 7:21 pm
90 days for killing a person and 100 hours of community service? What a joke our system has become.
Calling him a "failed gubernatorial candidate" is redundant as best. As we have no current "gubernatorial candidates" and Gilbert is not the Governor, calling him gubernatorial candidate or "former . . . " is sufficient. No need to be nasty when purporting to appear to cite facts.
Superseding indictment. Don't destroy evidence. That would be a bad thing.
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Robert
July 29, 2023 1:22 am
Not for nothing, but I welcome Millenials, they will continue to pay for our Medicare and Social Security when we GenXers are retired and also props to Boomers, who after passing away are gifting enormous sums of cash to their Millenial kids. And by the way, there are a LOT fewer of us GenXers than both Millennials and Boomers, so I remain optimistic that the well will not run dry in our old age as the naysayers prognsticate.
She paid a terrible price in terms of her career, but she turned out to be 100% correct. Rest In Peace.
I have seen these comments and have to make sure there is a qualifier of 100% correct about what? That there were sexual abuse scandals in the Catholic Church? Yes there were. She had a valid point. On so many other things she was 100% wrong, misguided, outlandish and indefensible. She was destroyed not by the demons of the outside but the demons inside herself. Yes rest in the peace that you never could find outside or inside of yourself.
Well damn. That was judgy as fuck. Hope that your day is better than Sinead's family is having.
Don't come in here flouting "She was 100% correct" but not be prepared to discuss the very topic that you brought up. We can agree that it is sad that she has died and send condolences to the family.
250 here. I am not the OP. I still think that 246 was being judgy AF and kinda dickish. But, that is me.
I am not 246 or 620. But I dont think that they were being judgy or dickish at all. They responded to an assertion that the OP brought up.
I can never understand no jail for taking a life under almost any circumstance involving negligence.
He served 3 months in jail if you read the article
Edit: no "significant" jail
"Significant" is always a matter of which side of the bars one is on.
238 is Based
Cruelty to animals could get you more time, that's kind of a shitty thing to think about.
Cruelty to animals is an intentional depraved act. There was clear evidence in this case that Collins was under the influence but not that he caused the accident. There was accident reconstruction evidence that would have put into some question whether the other driver caused the accident.
Not a fan of jail time for negligence without something more. I am hung up on the mens rea. . . . .
The mens rea is not caring, when you don't care you are actively disregarding what will happen, to not act is to act, haven't you ever watched TV series Kung Fu
Without an express finding or admission of depraved indifference or similar, I am still hung up on the apparent lack of mens rea. Not caring is a thing for me as well, but I question the criminality of "not caring".
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
I don't know anything about the facts of this case. But if it is simple negligence with no aggravating factors (e.g. extreme speeding, etc.), then I have a hard time with jail. A simple rear-ender or a misjudged left turn shouldn't, without more, result in jail time.
I listened to 3 versions of this song yesterday as I explained to my kids: Sinead's, Prince's, and Chris Cornell's version. Each one has a unique quality, and Sinead's will always be the original in my mind, but Chris has a great version too.
I am of the opinion that Sinead's most successful hit was not even close to her best music.
Nonetheless, regarding the various versions:
Cornell
O'conner
Prince
But, no one can ever tell me that Cornell was not among the greatest musicians in the last 35 years.
Ok Boomer, I'll take the Pepsi Challenge. Cornell was not among the greatest musicians in the last 35 years. What do I win?
109 here.
2 Clarifications.
One, I too, am Gen X and not a Boomer you Millennial prick.
Two, no one can tell me that that Cornell was not among the greatest musicians in the last 35 years and have me even come close to believing them.
Obtuse much?
Cornell in his prime was the greatest singer in rock and roll.
1:09pm / 2:52pm here. I am trying to devil's advocate that statement, but I got nuthin. Maybe not ever, but certainly in the last 35 years.
Fuck Zaon Collins. Basura.
They will never take my gas stove. Ever. I will not comply. This is getting absolutely ridiculous. Why doesn't the government actually work on real problems, instead of legislating how I cook my food.
A well regulated kitchen, being necessary to the cooking of food, the right of the people to keep and bear gas stoves, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Makes me want to get a gas stove emissions tester and see for myself. Never know, people thought seatbelts was just government overreach. Some still do so there you go.
First they came for the gas stoves . . . and I said nothing.
The only way you take my stove is if you pry it from my cold lead pans.
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No, we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
Puns are on fire cooking with gas today.
Hey 12:34 – seat belts are very clearly government overreach. Now, I personally would always wear a seat belt whenever I drive anywhere, but that is a personal choice. For instance, helmets are not required in AZ for motorcyclists, but most wear them anyway. Its not for the job of a government to create paternalistic laws to protect me against my own stupidity. I bet people that want the government to regulate our stoves are pro-marijuana.
Dear 3:33,
You may reap the benefit of not being thrown out a vehicle, but I rather prefer that your seatbelt allows you to remain mostly in control of your vehicle, instead of being tossed around your cabin if you swerved or braked hard.
So, in other words, the requirement is there to protect me from your stupidity. If you don't want to wear a motorcycle helmet, fine. Just make sure to check off the organ donation box on your license.
There are social costs to wrecking your body because you're too stupid to wear a seatbelt. It increases everyone's auto insurance premiums. If you're on Medicaid or Medicare, it costs taxpayer money to treat you. If the accident disables you, you could get SSDI or workers' comp. You take up room in the hospital. You're less productive and produce less tax revenue. Many of the costs aren't borne by the person who chose not to wear a seatbelt, so it actually makes perfect sense to regulate it.
Eff off with your "social costs".
10:38 go live in the woods and leave society, it costs to be part of a society
Working on that very thing. Society is horseshit and will kill itself.
"Cooking choice"? People are going to start saying they have a fundamental right to cook with gas.
Found the opinion piece par baked. Didn't address the health consequences of gas stoves (maybe we should just leave that to each person to assess for himself, but it should be part of the argument). Didn't address the fact that small energy savings across a range of appliances can in gross result in big energy savings. Didn't address induction stoves that are faster than gas stoves at boiling water.
At the end of the day I don't have a firm stance on the stove issue, but it's not persuasive to just ignore everything contrary to your position.
"Range of appliances"
What you did there. I see it.
At home, I don't care whether I cook from an electric stove or gas. They all get hot.
But they will have to pry my dutch ovens, cast iron skillets and propane powered Camp Chef from my cold dead fingers.
I suspect that it takes more energy to make the electricity (often by gas powered generators), and then heat an electric cooking element before you can cook, than: just lighting a burner on the gas stove.
Electric ranges are for apartment dwellers. I haven't seen any kitchens in mega mansions that feature electric stoves.
On the non-joking side, electric ranges are terrible. Gas allows you to quickly turn off the heat, regulate the heat better, simmer, etc. Induction ranges maybe the next hot item, but aside from boiling water quickly do not offer any advantages over the gas ranges, and you have to have an entirely new set of cookware that cannot be non-stick, which provides a different set of challenges.
@2:38p – that's pretty much the same argument against electric cars – at least one of them. I charge my electric car at home on a 240v charger in the evening when I'm home – like I do my phone overnight. My power doesn't come from solar panels, it may come from Wind but we don't have many of those in Southern Nevada. So most of my power to charge my car comes from "clean burning natural gas" (so they say on their website.) If it's so clean burning that it can be used to generate electricity to power my electric car, my iPhone, my air conditioners, etc, why is it a problem when used to cook with on the stove/oven? Arguments against natural gas and for electricity in the home, when electricity is generated using natural gas here, makes me hear the Wizard in the Wizard of Oz telling me not to pay attention to the man behind the curtain. It's crazy…..
@2:38
Unfortunately, generating electricity from gas, even it burns cleanly, is a net energy loss. There is no such thing as a 100% efficiency when the form of the energy is changed to another form. There is also a loss in transmission of electricity to the home of somewhere around 5%. Said simplistically, it takes more energy to cook with electricity than the energy required to cook directly from gas. Find a 9th grade science student to explain this to you.
It's wild that people are so upset about a stove. Gas stove or electric stove (powered by gas) probably isn't going to solve the issue. But at some point as a society we have to make changes that are more sustainable and eco friendly. People hate change, especially old people, but it's necessary. Just as there was no gas stoves how ever many years ago, there will be something better in the future if we allow progression. Instead of just worrying about our Exxon stocks and oil and gas futures
"It's wild that people are so upset about a stove."
Oh, my brother/sister, if you think this is nuts, just wait until you find out how hot and bothered some people get over Bud Light.
The author – "Kelly Mariotti is the president and CEO of the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers." Super disapointing that TNI allowed this.
Its not about climate change or emissions. Its about control.
10:39 yes they want to control you, you probably don't even cook. Control is an issue but climate and pollution is definitely a concern, look at the oceans, forest, and ice caps
Meh. Climate change lost me for good when my Obama bought a multi million dollar mansion on Martha's Vineyard and I was able to get a mortgage on my Beach house on The Strand in Oceanside. If Bank of America ain't buying climate change, I am not buying it.
1039 here. Tell that to my dutch ovens, cast iron skillets and propane powered Camp Chef. I cook.
Not sure what you're doing there with propane or propane accessories, but cooking would not be my term for it. Signed, SmokerIsLife.
Touche, Hank.
But, I am Traeger fluent as well.
Until those pushing climate change stop flying on their private jets, we don't need to make any changes. The people on your tv telling you that you need to make changes cause more carbon to be emitted in a week than us common folks emit in multiple years.
Unless you live like the electricity-free Amish, shut up with your virtue-signaling save the environment nonsense. You're clearly not serious about walking your talk.
"Climate change is being used to control us through fear. Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop actual pollution." RFK Jr. – future POTUS 47.
90 days for killing a person and 100 hours of community service? What a joke our system has become.
Agree. Here it looks like Metro or the DA screwed up the case.
Failed gubernatorial candidate Joey Gilbert landed himself a new gig representing the Douglas County School District, despite having no relevant experience. https://www.carsonnow.org/story/07/26/2023/douglas-county-school-board-joey-gilbert-hire
Joey don't need none of that fancy book learnin'.
Calling him a "failed gubernatorial candidate" is redundant as best. As we have no current "gubernatorial candidates" and Gilbert is not the Governor, calling him gubernatorial candidate or "former . . . " is sufficient. No need to be nasty when purporting to appear to cite facts.
Failures gonna fail
Also redundant.
Superseding indictment. Don't destroy evidence. That would be a bad thing.
Not for nothing, but I welcome Millenials, they will continue to pay for our Medicare and Social Security when we GenXers are retired and also props to Boomers, who after passing away are gifting enormous sums of cash to their Millenial kids. And by the way, there are a LOT fewer of us GenXers than both Millennials and Boomers, so I remain optimistic that the well will not run dry in our old age as the naysayers prognsticate.