I don't know if I'd characterize it as brave, but he doesn't seem mentally ill. Juvenile and lacking the knowledge and self-awareness of when to use different language in different situations, but not ill.
My guess is he's just kind of a bro and lives in a bro bubble where everyone he hangs with says gay boys and bowl of dicks.
Correctness in language depends on whether one is in the majority or not. Some find Hallmark's Gay Wedding ads more offensive than saying a "bowl of dicks." But one is worthy of being told to resign and the other is "liberating." More things in Heaven and Earth …
Hook admitted that he had mental health issues that impacted this case. "In his own defense, Hook issued an apology in which he blamed his own mental instability for the emails. 'I have anger management issues and emotional problems and they [Allstate attorneys] were ignoring me, and I exploded in anger stupidly,' Hook said in a statement reported by the Daily Breeze. 'The worst part is that I potentially harmed my clients. Nothing that the other side did would ever justify using the type of language I used, and that is very important because it is a lesson I have learned in spades and should have already known.'"
Judge Wright on the other hand was expected to be the adult in the room and exploded with the same out of control vitriol that Hook did. He is no better except he gets to be on the power side of the bench.
I am more offended by the low quality of Hallmark's movies than a bowl of dicks.
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December 17, 2019 5:04 pm
The impeachment debacle is another clown car full of democrats. There is no way President Trump will be removed. What a waste of time, energy and money. They murdered Epstein but they won't remove the lawfully elected President.
1) The Mormon Church's (or, if you prefer, even the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints) investment arm, Ensign Peak Advistors, has approx $100 Billion in assets under management, is a registered nonprofit, and spends nothing on charity, possibly violating US tax laws.
2) The only things that the Ensign Peak Advisors has spent money on are (a) bailing out the Church's insurance company, Beneficial Life, with $500M, and (b) spending $1.5B for City Creek Mall. Not only does this open the church to potential tax liability, it shows that the church has lied to its members when it said that tithing funds were not used for either of these things.
Mormons are asked "Are you honest in your dealings with your fellow man?" as part of the worthiness interview to go to the temple. It seems perhaps the church should ask itself that question.
The Deseret News opinion piece is laughable and full of gaslighting. But of course, it's easy to say "All is well in Zion! Zion prospereth!"
Let's find the gaslights!
1: "For perspective, Harvard has a financial endowment nearing $41 billion, serving the higher education needs of some 20,000 students. The church, by contrast, serves 16 million members with the scope of its work often spilling beyond its own membership"
The church, by contrast, spends ZERO DOLLARS of its investment holdings to serve "16 million members," which is the point the whistleblower makes.
2: "Though this renewed focus on church finances will undoubtedly draw attention to the buzzier elements of its asset portfolio (hey, look, the church invests in a mall)"
It's not about "buzz". Remember when the PROPHET OF GOD said that no tithing was spend on the mall? Whoops.
3: "Yes, the church saves and invests its surplus pennies"
lol. "Surplus pennies" is the new "Several months before her 15th birthday"
4: "it also helps vastly reduce the debt of college students"
If you go to a BYU school which is paid for by tithing (and none of which comes from Ensign Peak Advisors)
5: "gives to the poor regardless of background and supports one of the largest non-governmental welfare programs in the country."
The church gives $40 Million annually. It brings in $7 Billion annually. Sure, $40 Million is nothing to scoff at, but you don't get to pat yourself on the back when you're worth billions and only contribute a widow's mite.
6. "Most importantly, it does all this without enriching those at the top."
Other than the fact that "those at the top" are paid a six-figure stipend, have living expenses paid for, receive book deals, etc etc etc. No, the apostles aren't millionaires but let's no kid ourselves that they're wanting for anything.
By all means, let's discuss the merits. But the DN article is nothing more than desperate gaslighting so members who see the news this morning can say "oh ok, nothing to see here, I'll keep paying my tithing."
We take seriously the responsibility to care for the tithes and donations received from members. The vast majority of these funds are used immediately to meet the needs of the growing Church including more meetinghouses, temples, education, humanitarian work and missionary efforts throughout the world. Over many years, a portion is methodically safeguarded through wise financial management and the building of a prudent reserve for the future. This is a sound doctrinal and financial principle taught by the Savior in the Parable of the Talents and lived by the Church and its members. All Church funds exist for no other reason than to support the Church’s divinely appointed mission.
Claims being currently circulated are based on a narrow perspective and limited information. The Church complies with all applicable law governing our donations, investments, taxes, and reserves. We continue to welcome the opportunity to work with officials to address questions they may have.
If what the whistleblower says is true, then there is some reprehensible behavior that goes counter to what they preach. It seems they grossly unreported the investment income from Ensign Peak. There is also the issue of them saying no tithing funds paid for the City Creek mall, but this seems to contradict that. The biggest problem is they are still collecting tithing and asking for it like they're going to be a few dollars short for rent at the end of the month. I've been in charge of funds at a ward level before and agree the CHurch takes the funds seriously, but if this is true, it really hurts that they are increasing the monthly cost for missionaries and asking members to clean toilets, etc. I don't think it is wrong to ask people to be involved, but people give their hard earned money to the church thinking they are legitimately giving funds to a charitable organization that is out doing so much good in the world. Reality, unfortunately, says otherwise. The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve should be ashamed of themselves and would find themselves being looked upon with disapproval if they truly knew Jesus.
Can anyone show me the tax code section where religious organizations (Ensign is an integrated auxiliary) are subject to the 5% withdrawal requirements applicable to private foundations? Because without that… this is just drama for the sake of drama.
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December 17, 2019 7:22 pm
Looking at the RJ article, who are all the gentlemen on the discipline panel? These complaints are a joke.
Find it interesting that two of the complaining court admins. were fired. New discipline panel and head need to be appointed. Judges replace court clerks all the time. Where are the violations?
Yep, this entire proceeding boils down to a couple of angry, fired court clerks or administrators being upset that they're not actually in charge of the courts, but rather the judges are. And the Judicial Discipline Commission has allowed itself to be taken for a ride by the disgruntled court support staff. Disgraceful.
This is absurd. Maybe if a judge wears a sweater that someone deems inappropriate, some scold from the Judicial Discipline Commission should run down to the courthouse and make him or her turn it inside out, like the principal did when you were in school. They should be embarrassed to prosecute this case. I cannot believe that time and money is being wasted this way.
This reeks of court administration trying to punish a judge they don’t like. A court administrator plus a dumb chief judge equals a court administrator who can do what they want and settle old scores and perceived slights. A chief judge isn’t about to admit that he or she is being led around by the leash by a non-judge.
Has anyone contemplated the mental health of "bowl of dicks" lawyer?
no, because he was simply saying aloud what we all think anyway. Only the brave few will externalize their real thoughts
I don't know if I'd characterize it as brave, but he doesn't seem mentally ill. Juvenile and lacking the knowledge and self-awareness of when to use different language in different situations, but not ill.
My guess is he's just kind of a bro and lives in a bro bubble where everyone he hangs with says gay boys and bowl of dicks.
Correctness in language depends on whether one is in the majority or not. Some find Hallmark's Gay Wedding ads more offensive than saying a "bowl of dicks." But one is worthy of being told to resign and the other is "liberating." More things in Heaven and Earth …
Hook admitted that he had mental health issues that impacted this case. "In his own defense, Hook issued an apology in which he blamed his own mental instability for the emails. 'I have anger management issues and emotional problems and they [Allstate attorneys] were ignoring me, and I exploded in anger stupidly,' Hook said in a statement reported by the Daily Breeze. 'The worst part is that I potentially harmed my clients. Nothing that the other side did would ever justify using the type of language I used, and that is very important because it is a lesson I have learned in spades and should have already known.'"
Judge Wright on the other hand was expected to be the adult in the room and exploded with the same out of control vitriol that Hook did. He is no better except he gets to be on the power side of the bench.
The opinions of people who find Hallmark's ads offensive or are bothered by interracial marriage don't matter and are worthy only of scorn.
I am more offended by the low quality of Hallmark's movies than a bowl of dicks.
The impeachment debacle is another clown car full of democrats. There is no way President Trump will be removed. What a waste of time, energy and money. They murdered Epstein but they won't remove the lawfully elected President.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/mormon-church-has-misled-members-on-100-billion-tax-exempt-investment-fund-whistleblower-alleges/2019/12/16/e3619bd2-2004-11ea-86f3-3b5019d451db_story.html
Did the Mormon Church every disgorge Rob Graham's tithing money?
No and is not going to disgorge. However they invite you to visit his money in Fort Collins (donations accepted).
My thoughts go out to the Mormons and others ripped off by the Church and Graham. Do your research in who you hire as an attorney.
There are two big stories here:
1) The Mormon Church's (or, if you prefer, even the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints) investment arm, Ensign Peak Advistors, has approx $100 Billion in assets under management, is a registered nonprofit, and spends nothing on charity, possibly violating US tax laws.
2) The only things that the Ensign Peak Advisors has spent money on are (a) bailing out the Church's insurance company, Beneficial Life, with $500M, and (b) spending $1.5B for City Creek Mall. Not only does this open the church to potential tax liability, it shows that the church has lied to its members when it said that tithing funds were not used for either of these things.
Mormons are asked "Are you honest in your dealings with your fellow man?" as part of the worthiness interview to go to the temple. It seems perhaps the church should ask itself that question.
https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2019/12/17/21026103/the-washington-post-mormon-church-whistleblower-says-billions-thank-goodness?
The Deseret News opinion piece is laughable and full of gaslighting. But of course, it's easy to say "All is well in Zion! Zion prospereth!"
Let's find the gaslights!
1: "For perspective, Harvard has a financial endowment nearing $41 billion, serving the higher education needs of some 20,000 students. The church, by contrast, serves 16 million members with the scope of its work often spilling beyond its own membership"
The church, by contrast, spends ZERO DOLLARS of its investment holdings to serve "16 million members," which is the point the whistleblower makes.
2: "Though this renewed focus on church finances will undoubtedly draw attention to the buzzier elements of its asset portfolio (hey, look, the church invests in a mall)"
It's not about "buzz". Remember when the PROPHET OF GOD said that no tithing was spend on the mall? Whoops.
3: "Yes, the church saves and invests its surplus pennies"
lol. "Surplus pennies" is the new "Several months before her 15th birthday"
4: "it also helps vastly reduce the debt of college students"
If you go to a BYU school which is paid for by tithing (and none of which comes from Ensign Peak Advisors)
5: "gives to the poor regardless of background and supports one of the largest non-governmental welfare programs in the country."
The church gives $40 Million annually. It brings in $7 Billion annually. Sure, $40 Million is nothing to scoff at, but you don't get to pat yourself on the back when you're worth billions and only contribute a widow's mite.
6. "Most importantly, it does all this without enriching those at the top."
Other than the fact that "those at the top" are paid a six-figure stipend, have living expenses paid for, receive book deals, etc etc etc. No, the apostles aren't millionaires but let's no kid ourselves that they're wanting for anything.
By all means, let's discuss the merits. But the DN article is nothing more than desperate gaslighting so members who see the news this morning can say "oh ok, nothing to see here, I'll keep paying my tithing."
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/first-presidency-statement-church-finances
We take seriously the responsibility to care for the tithes and donations received from members. The vast majority of these funds are used immediately to meet the needs of the growing Church including more meetinghouses, temples, education, humanitarian work and missionary efforts throughout the world. Over many years, a portion is methodically safeguarded through wise financial management and the building of a prudent reserve for the future. This is a sound doctrinal and financial principle taught by the Savior in the Parable of the Talents and lived by the Church and its members. All Church funds exist for no other reason than to support the Church’s divinely appointed mission.
Claims being currently circulated are based on a narrow perspective and limited information. The Church complies with all applicable law governing our donations, investments, taxes, and reserves. We continue to welcome the opportunity to work with officials to address questions they may have.
You should not hire people just because they are mormon. People are not just trustworthy, because they are mormon.
If what the whistleblower says is true, then there is some reprehensible behavior that goes counter to what they preach. It seems they grossly unreported the investment income from Ensign Peak. There is also the issue of them saying no tithing funds paid for the City Creek mall, but this seems to contradict that. The biggest problem is they are still collecting tithing and asking for it like they're going to be a few dollars short for rent at the end of the month. I've been in charge of funds at a ward level before and agree the CHurch takes the funds seriously, but if this is true, it really hurts that they are increasing the monthly cost for missionaries and asking members to clean toilets, etc. I don't think it is wrong to ask people to be involved, but people give their hard earned money to the church thinking they are legitimately giving funds to a charitable organization that is out doing so much good in the world. Reality, unfortunately, says otherwise. The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve should be ashamed of themselves and would find themselves being looked upon with disapproval if they truly knew Jesus.
Can anyone show me the tax code section where religious organizations (Ensign is an integrated auxiliary) are subject to the 5% withdrawal requirements applicable to private foundations? Because without that… this is just drama for the sake of drama.
Looking at the RJ article, who are all the gentlemen on the discipline panel? These complaints are a joke.
List of members at http://judicial.nv.gov/Discipline/Members/
Find it interesting that two of the complaining court admins. were fired. New discipline panel and head need to be appointed. Judges replace court clerks all the time. Where are the violations?
This entire thing sounds like sour grapes to me.
Sounds spot on to me. These proceedings are bull shot.
Yep, this entire proceeding boils down to a couple of angry, fired court clerks or administrators being upset that they're not actually in charge of the courts, but rather the judges are. And the Judicial Discipline Commission has allowed itself to be taken for a ride by the disgruntled court support staff. Disgraceful.
This is absurd. Maybe if a judge wears a sweater that someone deems inappropriate, some scold from the Judicial Discipline Commission should run down to the courthouse and make him or her turn it inside out, like the principal did when you were in school. They should be embarrassed to prosecute this case. I cannot believe that time and money is being wasted this way.
This reeks of court administration trying to punish a judge they don’t like. A court administrator plus a dumb chief judge equals a court administrator who can do what they want and settle old scores and perceived slights. A chief judge isn’t about to admit that he or she is being led around by the leash by a non-judge.
Who is the chief judge, baucum?
Shit
Would there have been an inquiry if two female judges (or two male judges for that matter) had been observed Hallmark-kissing in public?