@ Teens reach deal: It’s not just CCSD that’s at fault for our failing school system. The judicial system at large is failing all the good students by not making an example of these thugs’ conduct and by not deterring future thugs. The abysmal school system and the abysmal judicial system is why this area CANNOT attract talent. I am not a Trump supporter (and will be voting for Harris), but at least Trump would get tough with the thugs. Throw them in jail for 30 years, until the testosterone starts declining.
Would Trump get tough with the kids the same way he did with the Central Park Five – by calling for the execution of kids who turned out to be innocent?
The point is that Trump is far from qualified on assessing criminal culpability. And the Rancho case is not as open and shut as presented by 12:38. The violence was started by the person who was killed, his friend used a knife, and not all of those arrested had the same amount of culpability. They were kids who made mistakes and will have some punishment. There is no need to throw them away for 30 years. Finally, the repeated use of the term “thugs” is a racist dog-whistle and should be beneath the dignity of attorneys in this community (assuming the posters are actually attorneys, which seems doubtful much of the time).
That might have been YOUR point. But its tertiary to my point at best.
Also WTF does Trump have to do with this? Its a state matter and POTUS (whoever TF is sitting at the Resolute Desk) has zero bearing on the matter.
Not well said in the slightest. TDS at its best. Just because you thing the use of the word “thugs” is a racist dog whistle does not mean that you are the arbiter of attorneys character by its use. I would love to steamroll your pretentious passive aggressive ass in front of any judge in the State as I’ve been doing since the 90’s.
CCSD is the biggest impediment to economic growth and development in Las Vegas. FACT. CCSD is the number one reason, by a mile, why people won’t move here or why they leave.
I’m against any president meddling with local prosecution. Bold, I know.
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August 1, 2024 1:02 pm
U know we’re lawyers – we can see right through false flag posting.
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August 1, 2024 3:02 pm
Is the Anthony Delvecchio who receives $362,371.59 the former judge?
This is crazy. Public Employees work is valuable, but Is it as valuable as we make it out to be?
Donald O’Shaughnessy, the former fire battalion chief in Clark County, who retired in 2010 on a $234,000 pension, which is more than he made in a salary when he was working. In 2009, his last year on the job, he made $224,000. IN 2021 it was $286,234. Now it is $319,935.03. He was in service for 34.47 years. So lets say he was 60-65 when he retired. He easily has another 10 years, so 20 years of pension. That’s $6,000,000 roughly. That means it costs $174,000 per year in addition to the salary and other benefits he earned. Not picking on him per se, but this is wild.
@4:08
It is the entrenched bureaucracy. Government service used to mean you had a safe job, even though pay was lower than in the private sector.
That has flipped. Unionization and politics.
I am not against unions or fair wages, but absurd wages are abhorrent. Note that in the instances mentioned by 3:02, firefighters earn more than judges. You might also look at the wages CCSD administrators receive. Entrenched bureaucracy.
Firefighters, detention center employees, and some police officers have spent decades fine tuning their ability to use overtime, on-call pay, etc. to manipulate the system and maximize their PERS payments. City and county managers have allowed the abuse to go on year after year. The managers are either incompetent or they have no interest in fixing the abuses. It’s not like this everywhere. There should be a cap on PERS payments – say $250,000 a year as the maximum salary to be used in the calculation so as to avoid extraordinary payments to doctors, football coaches, tourism boards, city and county managers, firefighters, and police department employees.
The day to day firefighters are not of course, but if you think that CCFD isnt RUN by the very bureaucrats you name above, then you and your myopathy are part of the problem.
I had a buddy that worked at the DA’s office for decades. He rarely went on vacation or called in sick. In his last year, he cashed out $400k of unused vacation and sick time. He’s now retired, pulling down $200k a year from NV PERS. Never had to bill his time. Fucking legend.
The problem with not paying public employees enough is what we are facing now. For example, the family court bench. Most of them are marginally competent as attorneys and should certainly NOT be on the bench. But why would someone who was respected and competent even want to be on the bench when they can earn double or even triple as a private attorney? So here we are, practicing in front of people who lack experience, knowledge, and/or the appropriate demeanor for the bench. Maybe this argument does not apply to all public employees, but we as tax payers have to recognize that not paying enough costs us more in the long run.
I’m not saying I’d be a great jurist. I am a man of middling intellect. But I can tell you that there are many reasons I’m not even a little interested in running for the bench. I don’t want to campaign. I like to socialize in small groups, not big fundraising events with forced, awkward conversations. I don’t want to shake down my friends and colleagues for money. I don’t want to adjust my lifestyle to take a six figure pay cut. That being said, the academic part of being a judge would be cool. Unfortunately, everything else (and there’s much more than what I have mentioned) would totally suck ass.
I follow a few judges and wannabes on social media. It is a never-ending stream of “I was thrilled to speak at the 7:30 a.m. breakfast meeting of the Association of Left-Handed Retired Constables of Filipino Descent on the Maternal Side, or ALHRCFDMS, for short.” Yeah, sure you were. Or they are at some god-awful looking rubber chicken “gala” at the Orleans or the Ahern, posing with a rictus smile alongside a bunch of people you wouldn’t want to spend five minutes with if you were being honest. At one point in my career, I considered running for one of these seats, but nope. Never. No way.
That study was written by a member of the American Enterprise Institute which is a right leaning think tank funded primarily by corporations. Interesting how when there’s a pension funding issue, it’s always about cutting pensions and changing them to defined benefit systems instead of holding employers’ feet to the fire. Promises were made. Maybe NV needs to stop giving tax breaks to the gold mines and the casinos and Tesla and maybe NV needs to start doing a better job investing those funds. PERS beneficiaries do not get SS because they belong to that system and NV gets out of paying SS taxes in exchange for the PERS system.
6:44 here. It’s also the same people saying cut PERS or change it to a defined benefit system or just generally complaining it’s too much who also argue that student loan debt shouldn’t be forgiven because people signed contracts. Well, NV signed a contract. Would be fun if the right was intellectually honest.
Hey 6:44 – that is some rant. You must be public employee.
But for those who are interested and a little more open to fact, here is a link to a 2023 article stating PERS is underfunded by 18 billion (Yes, that’s capital B) referencing PERS own actuarial report.
Note the special contribution rates for police and fire, which is greater than everyone else, including teachers. https://www.npri.org/pension-debt-soars-nv-teachers-now-pay-highest-rates-in-us/
When I stumbled upon a surprisingly high-paying position at a management-side labor/employment firm, I had an occasion or two where I had absolutely nothing to support the owner/mgmt position. At those dark hours, I could find something from NPRI to support a ridiculous position. And boy does NPRI loathe unions/pensions. I felt a bit shameless citing them, but hey, I was a mercenary.
Anyway, I still agree with your point. I have a hard time imagining that PERS is going to be able to hold up as it is. I can imagine it getting to the point where PERS will have to pull a Social Security bait and switch.
@ Teens reach deal: It’s not just CCSD that’s at fault for our failing school system. The judicial system at large is failing all the good students by not making an example of these thugs’ conduct and by not deterring future thugs. The abysmal school system and the abysmal judicial system is why this area CANNOT attract talent. I am not a Trump supporter (and will be voting for Harris), but at least Trump would get tough with the thugs. Throw them in jail for 30 years, until the testosterone starts declining.
Correction: “are why” not “is why”
one thing we will never have to worry about is strict and relentless enforcement by the grammar police. thank you for your service. thin redline.
Correction was done by the OP, policing himself.
>but at least Trump would get tough with the thugs
Unless they were convicted for assaulting a police officer, then he’ll pardon them.
What color was the police officer? What color was the assaulter? Law enforcement will depend on these variables.
Hillary Clinton was and is right. These teens are super predators. Be Ware.
You lost me at “voting for Harris”
@12:38
Ahh, generally agree with your sentiment. But Harris would only post a Go Fund Me page for bail and defense money.
Would Trump get tough with the kids the same way he did with the Central Park Five – by calling for the execution of kids who turned out to be innocent?
Animals are animals.
And humans are human.
Human DNA does not give you a pass on evil acts.
What part of “innocent” are you struggling to understand?
Show me where the Rancho HS inmates are “innocent”.
Don’t change the subject because you don’t like the premise.
Evil is evil. Period.
The discussion was referencing the Central Park 5.
The point is that Trump is far from qualified on assessing criminal culpability. And the Rancho case is not as open and shut as presented by 12:38. The violence was started by the person who was killed, his friend used a knife, and not all of those arrested had the same amount of culpability. They were kids who made mistakes and will have some punishment. There is no need to throw them away for 30 years. Finally, the repeated use of the term “thugs” is a racist dog-whistle and should be beneath the dignity of attorneys in this community (assuming the posters are actually attorneys, which seems doubtful much of the time).
well said
That might have been YOUR point. But its tertiary to my point at best.
Also WTF does Trump have to do with this? Its a state matter and POTUS (whoever TF is sitting at the Resolute Desk) has zero bearing on the matter.
Not well said in the slightest. TDS at its best. Just because you thing the use of the word “thugs” is a racist dog whistle does not mean that you are the arbiter of attorneys character by its use. I would love to steamroll your pretentious passive aggressive ass in front of any judge in the State as I’ve been doing since the 90’s.
Evil is evil. Prove me wrong.
Watch out! We got us a real badass here!
CCSD is the biggest impediment to economic growth and development in Las Vegas. FACT. CCSD is the number one reason, by a mile, why people won’t move here or why they leave.
I’m against any president meddling with local prosecution. Bold, I know.
U know we’re lawyers – we can see right through false flag posting.
Is the Anthony Delvecchio who receives $362,371.59 the former judge?
This is crazy. Public Employees work is valuable, but Is it as valuable as we make it out to be?
Donald O’Shaughnessy, the former fire battalion chief in Clark County, who retired in 2010 on a $234,000 pension, which is more than he made in a salary when he was working. In 2009, his last year on the job, he made $224,000. IN 2021 it was $286,234. Now it is $319,935.03. He was in service for 34.47 years. So lets say he was 60-65 when he retired. He easily has another 10 years, so 20 years of pension. That’s $6,000,000 roughly. That means it costs $174,000 per year in addition to the salary and other benefits he earned. Not picking on him per se, but this is wild.
Why TF does this shock you?
Typical golden parachutes for public employees / bureaucrats.
THIS is the deep state that everyone is talking about.
Firefighters are the deep state? lol seriously?
@4:08
It is the entrenched bureaucracy. Government service used to mean you had a safe job, even though pay was lower than in the private sector.
That has flipped. Unionization and politics.
I am not against unions or fair wages, but absurd wages are abhorrent. Note that in the instances mentioned by 3:02, firefighters earn more than judges. You might also look at the wages CCSD administrators receive. Entrenched bureaucracy.
Firefighters, detention center employees, and some police officers have spent decades fine tuning their ability to use overtime, on-call pay, etc. to manipulate the system and maximize their PERS payments. City and county managers have allowed the abuse to go on year after year. The managers are either incompetent or they have no interest in fixing the abuses. It’s not like this everywhere. There should be a cap on PERS payments – say $250,000 a year as the maximum salary to be used in the calculation so as to avoid extraordinary payments to doctors, football coaches, tourism boards, city and county managers, firefighters, and police department employees.
The day to day firefighters are not of course, but if you think that CCFD isnt RUN by the very bureaucrats you name above, then you and your myopathy are part of the problem.
That’s not what deep state means at all. Your tinfoil hat needs adjusting.
Maybe you might want to broaden your scope a little.
I had a buddy that worked at the DA’s office for decades. He rarely went on vacation or called in sick. In his last year, he cashed out $400k of unused vacation and sick time. He’s now retired, pulling down $200k a year from NV PERS. Never had to bill his time. Fucking legend.
The problem with not paying public employees enough is what we are facing now. For example, the family court bench. Most of them are marginally competent as attorneys and should certainly NOT be on the bench. But why would someone who was respected and competent even want to be on the bench when they can earn double or even triple as a private attorney? So here we are, practicing in front of people who lack experience, knowledge, and/or the appropriate demeanor for the bench. Maybe this argument does not apply to all public employees, but we as tax payers have to recognize that not paying enough costs us more in the long run.
I’m not saying I’d be a great jurist. I am a man of middling intellect. But I can tell you that there are many reasons I’m not even a little interested in running for the bench. I don’t want to campaign. I like to socialize in small groups, not big fundraising events with forced, awkward conversations. I don’t want to shake down my friends and colleagues for money. I don’t want to adjust my lifestyle to take a six figure pay cut. That being said, the academic part of being a judge would be cool. Unfortunately, everything else (and there’s much more than what I have mentioned) would totally suck ass.
I follow a few judges and wannabes on social media. It is a never-ending stream of “I was thrilled to speak at the 7:30 a.m. breakfast meeting of the Association of Left-Handed Retired Constables of Filipino Descent on the Maternal Side, or ALHRCFDMS, for short.” Yeah, sure you were. Or they are at some god-awful looking rubber chicken “gala” at the Orleans or the Ahern, posing with a rictus smile alongside a bunch of people you wouldn’t want to spend five minutes with if you were being honest. At one point in my career, I considered running for one of these seats, but nope. Never. No way.
I fuckin’ hate that group. Ride or die for Association of Left-Handed Retired Constables of Filipino Descent on the Paternal Side!
TIL: Rictus. good on you
“Roderick Jett” deserves $300K a year for that badass name alone.
His cousin, Drederick Tatum, has an even better name.
Love the Simpson’s reference.
I’m no economists but paying these exorbitant pensions doesn’t seem sustainable in the long term.
Nevada has an unfunded pension problem. If you are interested, there is a 2011 study and given the passage of time, the problem is worse today.
https://www.npri.org/docLib/20111102_Biggs_PERS_Study.pdf
That study was written by a member of the American Enterprise Institute which is a right leaning think tank funded primarily by corporations. Interesting how when there’s a pension funding issue, it’s always about cutting pensions and changing them to defined benefit systems instead of holding employers’ feet to the fire. Promises were made. Maybe NV needs to stop giving tax breaks to the gold mines and the casinos and Tesla and maybe NV needs to start doing a better job investing those funds. PERS beneficiaries do not get SS because they belong to that system and NV gets out of paying SS taxes in exchange for the PERS system.
Tell that to Chicago.
6:44 here. It’s also the same people saying cut PERS or change it to a defined benefit system or just generally complaining it’s too much who also argue that student loan debt shouldn’t be forgiven because people signed contracts. Well, NV signed a contract. Would be fun if the right was intellectually honest.
Hey 6:44 – that is some rant. You must be public employee.
But for those who are interested and a little more open to fact, here is a link to a 2023 article stating PERS is underfunded by 18 billion (Yes, that’s capital B) referencing PERS own actuarial report.
Note the special contribution rates for police and fire, which is greater than everyone else, including teachers.
https://www.npri.org/pension-debt-soars-nv-teachers-now-pay-highest-rates-in-us/
Nope. I’ve always been a private attorney.
Since you graduated from Boyd in ’13.
Nope. Licensed many years before ‘13 and attended a law school that was founded before UNLV even existed.
When I stumbled upon a surprisingly high-paying position at a management-side labor/employment firm, I had an occasion or two where I had absolutely nothing to support the owner/mgmt position. At those dark hours, I could find something from NPRI to support a ridiculous position. And boy does NPRI loathe unions/pensions. I felt a bit shameless citing them, but hey, I was a mercenary.
Anyway, I still agree with your point. I have a hard time imagining that PERS is going to be able to hold up as it is. I can imagine it getting to the point where PERS will have to pull a Social Security bait and switch.
CHAPTER 9!!!