I am not sure he will. And if he does I am not sure that it will be above some minor league for beer money. NFL Shape (even if a prison workout regimen) is not easy.
On one hand it’s distressing to me that he’ll be able to rejoin the NFL. There’s a lot of room between doing your time and being able to rejoin society in some capacity, and playing in the NFL. I would still feel at unease, but feel some justification for a team wanting him back in the league if some substantial portion of his net compensation were paid to the family for 1-3 seasons – I defer to my PI brethren to evaluate what the value and economics of that claim and recovery would be.
Former Las Vegas Raiders wide receiver Henry Ruggs III yelled at hospital staff and police as they tried to help him and investigate the fatal crash. Tue The crash was reported at 3:39 a.m. Ruggs, 22, was traveling 156 mph before the crash, police said, and hit Tina Tintor’s car at 127 mph. The crash killed Tintor, 23, and her dog.
Prosecutors said Ruggs’ blood-alcohol level was 0.161 — two times the legal limit. Ruggs refused to submit to an evidentiary blood test, the police report said. A judge later approved a warrant for a blood draw at University Medical Center.
When police went to speak with Ruggs at the hospital, he told them to “get him out of here,” the report said. He also told the investigating officer he did not remember what happened, responding “no” several times.
I cannot think of a more horrible death. Trapped in your car, burning to death and hearing the screams of your dog and not being able to help.
May Ruggs burn in hell. His District Court sentence was light and insubstantial.
You say “some substantial portion.” The League is not going to intervene in that way. If he is allowed to return Tina’s family will be allowed to garnish like any other creditor.
There really is no viable overseas alternative to playing in the NFL. There are some international leagues, but the players are paid a ridiculously low amount to play in comparison to an NFL salary.
There is a chance Ruggs plays in the NFL again. That said, the chances are greater that he will be blackballed by the league. Major American sports leagues have not hesitated to blackball players in recent years. The NFL did it to Colin Kaepernick, and to a much lesser extent recently to Sheduer Sanders. MLB blackballed Trevor Bauer and Julio Urias for domestic violence. The NBA blackballed Jimmer Fredette for being a serial super soaker.
In all seriousness, Ruggs is VERY toxic. Certainly more toxic than Bauer and Urias (yes, different leagues and different sports). Whether he plays again should be left entirely to Tina’s family. If they approve, then it’s end of the discussion and I wish them well in garnishing the shit out of Ruggs. If they say no, the NFL should abide by it.
I think that Kaepernick was blackballed by himself, not by his actions in taking a knee, but by his utter failure to perform and deliver on this contract.
Is Ruggs more toxic than Michael Vick was?
In reality, I am not confident that the general public cares as much about a DUI causing death as they did about a dog fight organizer / participant. My analysis tells me that the world forgets, if he comes back and plays.
Kaepernick was blackballed. If he was better at the time that happened he might have been able to overcome it, but he absolutely would have played several more seasons in the NFL had he never kneeled. It takes intentional ignorance to mistake that.
The Vick thing was a bigger story than Ruggs because Vick was really, really good–and more than that he was really, really popular.
I do think that Ruggs actions and his public response to those actions (so far) is way, way more offensive to the general public.
No arguments with most everything that you have said. However, I disagree on Kaepernick. Notwithstanding the ill-advised, kneeling, had he been a truly talented with some potential for longevity, but his lack of talent and work ethic (and his victim attitude) caused him to be much less effective on the field. He blackballed himself.
You can say that his actions or character are why he was blackballed, that’s kind of always the case, and then the interpretation of the evaluation of the actions and character are up for debate.
Nothing he ever did bothered me at all, in fact it made me like him, but it obviously did offend a lot of football fans.
He was blackballed. He was too much of a headache. People very effectively made it too hard for the team to ignore the situation, and then after that the league definitely colluded to blackball him.
I still maintain that his being unceremoniously dropped by the teams of the NFL had more to do with his lack of talent and work ethic than it did his “taking a knee”. Just my $0.02
He literally told teams that he was going to buck their culture and then had a press conference to proclaim that he told teams that he was going to buck their culture. He told teams that he would choose how and who he would work for. He refused to interview with teams, and the teams that interviewed him almost uniformly said it went poorly. Candidly mirrors our firm’s experience with legal secretaries lately.
If he’s good, he’ll get a chance to play. He probably won’t be good and so he won’t play. The NFL is more than happy to look the other way for good players.
I’ve always liked the quote from an NFL GM: “If Hannibal Lecter ran a 4.3, we’d probably diagnose it as an eating disorder.”
He won’t play because he was not good before killing someone and is only older and has to be really really good to overcome this killing. He was not that when he was drafted.
The fact that the NFL and a critical mass its fans could even conceive of excusing Ruggs’ conduct is why I dislike the league, the sport, and its fan base (and look down on them – which is easy to do when so many use it as a form of identity-seeking and escapism from their own obese, pointless lives). I was against the Raiders, of all teams, coming here for this general reason. It’s disgusting that this is even entertained, even if it does not come to pass.
Doubt it. The average career in the league is only a bit more than 3 years. Even if you are good. Sure, some break through and have great careers, but there is always new talent coming up and a small number of roster spots. I really doubt that he is so dominant that it makes sense to pick him up with all this baggage. Maybe on a nothing contract with a short leash, but his career is over. If he does get picked up, I bet he is cut not too long thereafter.
“Critical labor shortage”
sounds like something pushed by Big OB-GYN to increase their profits.
Anyone that hires Ruggs should have to endure a blowtorch to the face for 15 minutes then tell us how it feels before making that decision.
Well, that is excessive.
He will definitely play professional football again.
I am not sure he will. And if he does I am not sure that it will be above some minor league for beer money. NFL Shape (even if a prison workout regimen) is not easy.
On one hand it’s distressing to me that he’ll be able to rejoin the NFL. There’s a lot of room between doing your time and being able to rejoin society in some capacity, and playing in the NFL. I would still feel at unease, but feel some justification for a team wanting him back in the league if some substantial portion of his net compensation were paid to the family for 1-3 seasons – I defer to my PI brethren to evaluate what the value and economics of that claim and recovery would be.
Former Las Vegas Raiders wide receiver Henry Ruggs III yelled at hospital staff and police as they tried to help him and investigate the fatal crash. Tue The crash was reported at 3:39 a.m. Ruggs, 22, was traveling 156 mph before the crash, police said, and hit Tina Tintor’s car at 127 mph. The crash killed Tintor, 23, and her dog.
Prosecutors said Ruggs’ blood-alcohol level was 0.161 — two times the legal limit. Ruggs refused to submit to an evidentiary blood test, the police report said. A judge later approved a warrant for a blood draw at University Medical Center.
When police went to speak with Ruggs at the hospital, he told them to “get him out of here,” the report said. He also told the investigating officer he did not remember what happened, responding “no” several times.
My sympathies are with Tina and her dog. Ruggs has never expressed remorse, his concern was always for himself.
I cannot think of a more horrible death. Trapped in your car, burning to death and hearing the screams of your dog and not being able to help.
May Ruggs burn in hell. His District Court sentence was light and insubstantial.
You say “some substantial portion.” The League is not going to intervene in that way. If he is allowed to return Tina’s family will be allowed to garnish like any other creditor.
ooooor . . . he plays overseas and goes OJ on his judgment creditors.
There really is no viable overseas alternative to playing in the NFL. There are some international leagues, but the players are paid a ridiculously low amount to play in comparison to an NFL salary.
There is a chance Ruggs plays in the NFL again. That said, the chances are greater that he will be blackballed by the league. Major American sports leagues have not hesitated to blackball players in recent years. The NFL did it to Colin Kaepernick, and to a much lesser extent recently to Sheduer Sanders. MLB blackballed Trevor Bauer and Julio Urias for domestic violence. The NBA blackballed Jimmer Fredette for being a serial super soaker.
In all seriousness, Ruggs is VERY toxic. Certainly more toxic than Bauer and Urias (yes, different leagues and different sports). Whether he plays again should be left entirely to Tina’s family. If they approve, then it’s end of the discussion and I wish them well in garnishing the shit out of Ruggs. If they say no, the NFL should abide by it.
serial super soaker…..well played!
I think that Kaepernick was blackballed by himself, not by his actions in taking a knee, but by his utter failure to perform and deliver on this contract.
Is Ruggs more toxic than Michael Vick was?
In reality, I am not confident that the general public cares as much about a DUI causing death as they did about a dog fight organizer / participant. My analysis tells me that the world forgets, if he comes back and plays.
Kaepernick was blackballed. If he was better at the time that happened he might have been able to overcome it, but he absolutely would have played several more seasons in the NFL had he never kneeled. It takes intentional ignorance to mistake that.
The Vick thing was a bigger story than Ruggs because Vick was really, really good–and more than that he was really, really popular.
I do think that Ruggs actions and his public response to those actions (so far) is way, way more offensive to the general public.
No arguments with most everything that you have said. However, I disagree on Kaepernick. Notwithstanding the ill-advised, kneeling, had he been a truly talented with some potential for longevity, but his lack of talent and work ethic (and his victim attitude) caused him to be much less effective on the field. He blackballed himself.
You can say that his actions or character are why he was blackballed, that’s kind of always the case, and then the interpretation of the evaluation of the actions and character are up for debate.
Nothing he ever did bothered me at all, in fact it made me like him, but it obviously did offend a lot of football fans.
He was blackballed. He was too much of a headache. People very effectively made it too hard for the team to ignore the situation, and then after that the league definitely colluded to blackball him.
I still maintain that his being unceremoniously dropped by the teams of the NFL had more to do with his lack of talent and work ethic than it did his “taking a knee”. Just my $0.02
He literally told teams that he was going to buck their culture and then had a press conference to proclaim that he told teams that he was going to buck their culture. He told teams that he would choose how and who he would work for. He refused to interview with teams, and the teams that interviewed him almost uniformly said it went poorly. Candidly mirrors our firm’s experience with legal secretaries lately.
If he’s good, he’ll get a chance to play. He probably won’t be good and so he won’t play. The NFL is more than happy to look the other way for good players.
I’ve always liked the quote from an NFL GM: “If Hannibal Lecter ran a 4.3, we’d probably diagnose it as an eating disorder.”
This is the most accurate take on this question.
He won’t play because he was not good before killing someone and is only older and has to be really really good to overcome this killing. He was not that when he was drafted.
The fact that the NFL and a critical mass its fans could even conceive of excusing Ruggs’ conduct is why I dislike the league, the sport, and its fan base (and look down on them – which is easy to do when so many use it as a form of identity-seeking and escapism from their own obese, pointless lives). I was against the Raiders, of all teams, coming here for this general reason. It’s disgusting that this is even entertained, even if it does not come to pass.
NAILED IT.
I want to hear from the one that predicted the fiore pardon. Will Ruggs play in nfl?
The many who predicted it.
Signs point to yes.
Doubt it. The average career in the league is only a bit more than 3 years. Even if you are good. Sure, some break through and have great careers, but there is always new talent coming up and a small number of roster spots. I really doubt that he is so dominant that it makes sense to pick him up with all this baggage. Maybe on a nothing contract with a short leash, but his career is over. If he does get picked up, I bet he is cut not too long thereafter.