Rob was once again a terrible poker player in that moment. Will be interesting to see how long the jury deliberates. They must be exhausted and irritated at this point.
So what, something like 4 minutes to elect a foreperson, 4 minutes to deliberate, 2 minutes to fill out the verdict form, and 110 minutes for a leisurely lunch?
Get your popcorn ready today as this Trial finishes up and Rob lies some more.
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Anonymous
August 23, 2024 10:13 am
I know Rob, and so I’ll make the following predictions. He is going to ask for the jury to sentence him. He will claim that he didn’t tell the truth on the stand because he wanted to protect his family, particularly his kids, from embarrassment.
Yep, and he will try to make it look like his lies were a noble, understandable attempt to shield his family. Also, I previously predicted that Rob will have a very emotional mental breakdown when the conviction is announced. I stand by that one.
Will he try to charge the bench, the jury, his lawyers, the prosecutors? Hopefully the deputies and marshals are better positioned so we don’t have a repeat of superman over the bench.
10:13/10:22 AM here. Rob won’t try to physically attack anyone when the conviction is read. He will wail, Old Testament style, may yell, may cry out. It will be a more dramatic version of what we saw when bail was denied.
I definitely agree with this, I think the marshals will have to get involved to protect Telles from himself and quiet him down. A vocal but nonviolent total breakdown.
There is absolutely no way Rob will admit to this murder, he will instead endlessly appeal his innocence for the next 10 – 15 years until SCOTUS finally denies his federal habeas cert petition. (of course then he’ll find “new evidence” and start again)
Nah. Rob thinks he’s so clever I’m sure he thinks he’s got a good chance of getting some post-conviction relief. I’m sure he’ll lean into the delusion and lies.
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Anonymous
August 23, 2024 10:39 am
Here we go with the boring probate monologue again
German in September 2022 wore a mask when outside his house in public. We saw that on the Roberto’s surveillance footage. Telles was interviewed by German many times. It’s not a stretch to infer that Telles suspected or knew German worked from home.
Imagine the worst criminal trial with the least amount of doubt being an attorney? Like gangbangers with eyewitnesses have more reasonable doubt than this guy.
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Anonymous
August 23, 2024 10:58 am
So many things about this case have a weaker, pathetic parallel to the OJ murder trial. Add all the “if I did it, which I didn’t,” nonsense to that list.
“I am not crazy”…heads up homie, you are definitely crazy if you have to state that you are NOT crazy.
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Anonymous
August 23, 2024 11:01 am
“I am not crazy. I am not trying to avoid responsibility for this entire situation. That Compass Realty could move so much with money in this day and age in our city is incredible to me. I’m innocent. Im’ not the kind of person who could brutally murder another man, do it with apparent experience and training and then go to the gym and then go pick up my children. I can’t imagine being that type of person. I didn’t murder Mr. German and I’m innocent.” -ROBERT RICHARD TELLES, victim, humanitarian, husband and father.
I know several of the people who have been taking stray bullets in Rob’s testimony and this one is a perfectly hilarious way to end it. Not even Paris Hilton could escape being sucked into this mess. Hahahahaha.
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Anonymous
August 23, 2024 11:11 am
Q: At the end of the day, you’re just a victim in this whole thing, correct?
A: Yes.
Great ending, Mr. Hamner.
Highlights Rob’s narcissism and how fantastically improbable Rob’s conspiracy claims are.
Then Rob delivers the cherry on top by trying to reference Paris Hilton. hahahaha.
Realistically, he can point out the gym time stamp, he can point out that Zach Schilling is not credible, he can say Rob is an upstanding, All-American citizen. But that’s about it.
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Anonymous
August 23, 2024 11:16 am
I thought there might be no further rebuttal witnesses but the Cellebrite extraction detective was the only one I thought there might be some benefit in calling.
Because you need him to explain why the Apple Watch bomb was not on his Cellebrite report. He did not address it because they had not dropped the bomb yet. This redirect should be less than 10 minutes. Get in, get out, get done.
Knowing when to stop is one of the hardest things; actually stopping is another. Prosecution isn’t helping themselves with the fried rice crap and now they’re going to call another detective. They should just let the jury have this.
Also knowing what matters and what does not matter can be hard. Why the “Where are you” text is not on Cellebrite was potentially important. This garbage about chicken fried rice is not important and is wasting time and patience.
Now they are recalling Gatus who was one of their least effective witnesses.
I know. I just thought it was funny because it stood out how Rob went into the random unnecessary detail about the finger cut being from making his children chicken fried rice from a recipe he found on google.
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Former Attorney
August 23, 2024 11:35 am
Omg stoppppp with these witnesses and do a brief close, it’s already game over and the state is just extending this farce.
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Anonymous
August 23, 2024 11:51 am
Gatus is linking an important fact which is Yukon drives in and BMW drives out. We all figured this out but this is necessary and relevant
So wait, I must have missed that earlier, I haven’t watched every minute. So the Yukon drives in and the BMW drives out. Is Telles admitting that the BMW is him, leaving for the gym? But denying the Yukon was him? Did they say how much time passed between the Yukon in and the BMW out?
They have it to the second. The video is from Piggott Elementary School. Yukon drives past Piggott, goes the 3 blocks to Telles’s home and then 12 minutes later you see the BMW drive out past Piggott.
Yes. 10-15 minutes, something like that. I thought that was while Telles was saying he was on his walk. I’m sorry, it’s September 2, 2022, sunny and mostly clear, and between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. in the daytime it was 96F to 104F. What was he wearing near his house, he claims? Not a lot of locals are out for a leisurely walk that late in the morning or midday just because.
His explanations are very plainly lies. I hope this jury sees that as plain as day.
Here’s one: you only get one shot at a conviction. Why rush when you can tie every single possible loose end to increase you odds of a conviction from 99% to 100%?
Because you are pissing jurors off. Knowing what is truly a loose end is important. Showing the Yukon drive in and the BMW drive out- important. Chicken fried rice recipe– not a loose end.
Are the jurors really pissed off? The parties estimated two weeks of trial. We’re not there yet. Isn’t that just trying to set expectations for the jurors? As long as we’re under, seems like they wouldn’t be overly irritated as compared to normal juror irritation. Different story if they were way over time.
Pissing off a jury might be an issue in a civil trial when they start to talk about money. Do you really think someone would say not guilty because they thought the DA took too long?
It would be business disparagement more than defamation. And never because they would never be able to collect anything. Compass Realty has gotten tons of free advertising out of this trial.
And never mind anything Telles says on the stand or in direct connection to the legal proceedings in court would likely fall under the absolute litigation privilege or under a witness’s privilege against defamation liability.
He’s already made out of court statements in media interviews that could support defamation or business disparagement theories, but what’s the point? The house is encumbered, will go to banks or the wife alone (assuming they don’t stay married), and then reach equity beyond the homestead exemption. If he’s not judgment proof yet, he will be soon. This is the correct conclusion, let it go.
Rob registering and running as a Democrat tells me he knew how best to maximize his chances of being elected in a countywide race in Clark County, nothing more, nothing less.
At the very least a verdict is almost guaranteed on Monday…the state should keep it short, Draskovich has no material, and we know the jury is gonna vote guilty LOL.
Let’s put it this way. I’m morbidly obese with Dolly Parton man boobs. There is a better chance that I end up, shirtless on the cover of People magazine as 2025’s “Sexiest Man Alive” issue than Rob has of acquittal.
That if Compass Realty wanted to stop Telles’ investigation, and was willing to kill someone to do that, why not just kill Telles instead of killing German to frame Telles for German’s murder.
The answer was epic (and I paraphrase) “Because I am so important that if they killed me someone else would have taken up my cause. This way I have lost credibility and no further investigation in Compass can or will happen.”
Is Compass part of the Mormon Probate Mafia, or is that a different Telles conspiracy theory? Was Rob barking up the wrong frame-job tree, and it was actually the MPM that pulled this job?
Civil guy here, can one of you crim guys explain how the communications between telles and his wife not be subject to spousal privilege? How does it get admitted into evidence?
There is no privilege protecting your texts with your wife so long as they are secured with a valid warrant. The spousal privilege just states that the state can’t force your wife to testify against. She can refuse a valid trial subpoena and refuse to appear at trial. Which is probably what happened here. The detective notes indicate she told them she didn’t know where her husband was when the murder happened. She did not confirm his story that he was on a walk.
I want to post at 7:59 that it will be a mistrial. On a lawyer blog we all know he is guilty. But I’ve been watching the trial with friends at night and a good third, non lawyers, don’t think he did it saying “there’s too many unanswered questions especially why not a lot of blood on shoes and hat”
“there’s too many unanswered questions especially why not a lot of blood on shoes and hat” If Rob had kept his mouth shut, and let Draskovich hammer this, he might have a shot today- a long shot. I disagree that there is any chance of acquittal. ALL of the jury questions have been unfavorable for Rob.
True! I agree that it is likely most of us lawyers believe Telles is guilty. I socialized with non-lawyers this weekend who streamed the trial this week and they agree with the notion that, “there’s too many unanswered questions especially why not a lot of blood on shoes and hat.” Cross section of locals including hotel workers, realtors, teachers, therapists, and retirees. It only takes one to hang the jury.
DEVASTATING final blow with the revelation of that text.
Rob was once again a terrible poker player in that moment. Will be interesting to see how long the jury deliberates. They must be exhausted and irritated at this point.
I’m guessing 2 hours MAX and that’s being generous.
So what, something like 4 minutes to elect a foreperson, 4 minutes to deliberate, 2 minutes to fill out the verdict form, and 110 minutes for a leisurely lunch?
💯
Just curious friend, I’ve retired to Missouri but check blog from time to time. Where did u end up?
Currently Ohio but planning to leave within a year or so, destination unknown as of now.
the jury definitely deserves at least 1 taxpayer-paid lunch
We should start a gofundme and send them a nice catered lunch.
Depends how close to 5 pm they retire to deliberate. So 5pm minus (Time They Retire), unless the answer to that math problem is more than 90 minutes.
Dear Rob,
https://youtu.be/nOB-1bnQscU?feature=shared&t=79
Get your popcorn ready today as this Trial finishes up and Rob lies some more.
I know Rob, and so I’ll make the following predictions. He is going to ask for the jury to sentence him. He will claim that he didn’t tell the truth on the stand because he wanted to protect his family, particularly his kids, from embarrassment.
So you think he’ll admit to the murder at sentencing??
Yep, and he will try to make it look like his lies were a noble, understandable attempt to shield his family. Also, I previously predicted that Rob will have a very emotional mental breakdown when the conviction is announced. I stand by that one.
Will he try to charge the bench, the jury, his lawyers, the prosecutors? Hopefully the deputies and marshals are better positioned so we don’t have a repeat of superman over the bench.
10:13/10:22 AM here. Rob won’t try to physically attack anyone when the conviction is read. He will wail, Old Testament style, may yell, may cry out. It will be a more dramatic version of what we saw when bail was denied.
I definitely agree with this, I think the marshals will have to get involved to protect Telles from himself and quiet him down. A vocal but nonviolent total breakdown.
I don’t think Telles could make it over the bench
Maybe he got new lifts that have springs in them!
But he said he’s 6’ 5-1/2” tall. 😂
He does not have the stones.
Rob is 5’6″ going on 6’5″. Even with his lifts there is no way he clears the bench.
The faux suicide attempt tells me you are correct re the verdict breakdown. I predict the marshals will have to get involved.
There is absolutely no way Rob will admit to this murder, he will instead endlessly appeal his innocence for the next 10 – 15 years until SCOTUS finally denies his federal habeas cert petition. (of course then he’ll find “new evidence” and start again)
Nah. Rob thinks he’s so clever I’m sure he thinks he’s got a good chance of getting some post-conviction relief. I’m sure he’ll lean into the delusion and lies.
Here we go with the boring probate monologue again
God, he’s a mess. It’s almost like he’s still the PA in his own head.
He is. He speaks in the present tense. “…our office…” “…our policy is…” “…we always…”
60 seconds on the “where are you” text. 10 minutes on why Zach Schilling was upset.
“I don’t engage in crime, but if I knew there was a camera right across the way, I wouldn’t do it.”
NOT GUILTY!
“I did not buy a straw hat or construction shirt. My finances were reviewed and they found nothing.”
Yeah, because you can’t buy that shit with cash at Broadacres.
But I thought you said this was a professional trained assassin?
“If I did it, I wouldn’t have been dumb enough to do it this way”
Narrator: he was dumb enough to do it this way.
“I did not know Mr. German’s schedule to be there at a particular time, but the killer did.”
NOT GUILTY!
German in September 2022 wore a mask when outside his house in public. We saw that on the Roberto’s surveillance footage. Telles was interviewed by German many times. It’s not a stretch to infer that Telles suspected or knew German worked from home.
This ain’t helping your case, Rob
And he absolutely DOES NOT know how to do an owner search on the Assessor’s Website.
He could’ve rented a car to go to the murder scene! Yeah, create more of a paper trail than already exists. Brilliant!
NOT GUILTY!
(Make this stop. I can’t take any more of this hilarity and absurdity. )
Omfg, again with this “IF I did it” nonsense, good god girl, get a grip.
COVID made Rob cheat on his wife. Who amongst us didn’t dip our toe in a little infidelity in the pandemic?
It is only infidelity if you cannot get her to join you.
“I NEVER ACTED LIKE A LAME DUCK!!!” This is such an effing mess.
What I heard TELLES say, “I acted like a duck whose webbed feet were amputated.”
Not the Wolfson campaign report!!!! The state’s in trouble now!!! 😂😂😂
The jury is tuned out. The prosecutors objecting are making it look like it’s important when its not.
He just *looks* guilty
Imagine the worst criminal trial with the least amount of doubt being an attorney? Like gangbangers with eyewitnesses have more reasonable doubt than this guy.
So many things about this case have a weaker, pathetic parallel to the OJ murder trial. Add all the “if I did it, which I didn’t,” nonsense to that list.
I do not engage in crime. Robert Telles.
“How do you do fellow kids?”
“I am not crazy”…heads up homie, you are definitely crazy if you have to state that you are NOT crazy.
“I am not crazy. I am not trying to avoid responsibility for this entire situation. That Compass Realty could move so much with money in this day and age in our city is incredible to me. I’m innocent. Im’ not the kind of person who could brutally murder another man, do it with apparent experience and training and then go to the gym and then go pick up my children. I can’t imagine being that type of person. I didn’t murder Mr. German and I’m innocent.” -ROBERT RICHARD TELLES, victim, humanitarian, husband and father.
I am currently applying for a job at Compass Realty –it must pay well!
“Why do I think I’d be a good fight at Compass Reality? Well I watch vast amounts of True Crime tv so I think I could plot a murder really well”
Hamner doing a better job today of chopping the re-cross into smaller, undeniable nuggets
Not Paris Hilton!!!!!! Oh my.
I know several of the people who have been taking stray bullets in Rob’s testimony and this one is a perfectly hilarious way to end it. Not even Paris Hilton could escape being sucked into this mess. Hahahahaha.
Q: At the end of the day, you’re just a victim in this whole thing, correct?
A: Yes.
Great ending, Mr. Hamner.
Highlights Rob’s narcissism and how fantastically improbable Rob’s conspiracy claims are.
Then Rob delivers the cherry on top by trying to reference Paris Hilton. hahahaha.
Here come the Juror Questions!
“Who is the lady in pink?”
Vanessa Murphy
Less focus on Rob and more focus on the lady in pink
Only two questions because their minds are made up. That train wreck narrative answered every question they had.
One of the questions was about his height without lifts. Unbelievable.
That was intended to humiliate him for wasting their time and wasting Mr. German.
Have not seen Bob D look more relieved during this trial than to say “The Defense rests”
What in the name of all things holy is he gonna say at closing??
Realistically, he can point out the gym time stamp, he can point out that Zach Schilling is not credible, he can say Rob is an upstanding, All-American citizen. But that’s about it.
I thought there might be no further rebuttal witnesses but the Cellebrite extraction detective was the only one I thought there might be some benefit in calling.
Why? This is overkill. This jury is being held hostage.
Because you need him to explain why the Apple Watch bomb was not on his Cellebrite report. He did not address it because they had not dropped the bomb yet. This redirect should be less than 10 minutes. Get in, get out, get done.
20 minute deliberation before acquittal
He’s going after the chicken fried rice!
I understand the point but this is not making points with the jury at this point in time. He is effectively impeaching the Cellebrite software
Knowing when to stop is one of the hardest things; actually stopping is another. Prosecution isn’t helping themselves with the fried rice crap and now they’re going to call another detective. They should just let the jury have this.
Also knowing what matters and what does not matter can be hard. Why the “Where are you” text is not on Cellebrite was potentially important. This garbage about chicken fried rice is not important and is wasting time and patience.
Now they are recalling Gatus who was one of their least effective witnesses.
Actually her redirect was on point and important.
I know. I just thought it was funny because it stood out how Rob went into the random unnecessary detail about the finger cut being from making his children chicken fried rice from a recipe he found on google.
Omg stoppppp with these witnesses and do a brief close, it’s already game over and the state is just extending this farce.
Gatus is linking an important fact which is Yukon drives in and BMW drives out. We all figured this out but this is necessary and relevant
So wait, I must have missed that earlier, I haven’t watched every minute. So the Yukon drives in and the BMW drives out. Is Telles admitting that the BMW is him, leaving for the gym? But denying the Yukon was him? Did they say how much time passed between the Yukon in and the BMW out?
They have it to the second. The video is from Piggott Elementary School. Yukon drives past Piggott, goes the 3 blocks to Telles’s home and then 12 minutes later you see the BMW drive out past Piggott.
Yes. 10-15 minutes, something like that. I thought that was while Telles was saying he was on his walk. I’m sorry, it’s September 2, 2022, sunny and mostly clear, and between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. in the daytime it was 96F to 104F. What was he wearing near his house, he claims? Not a lot of locals are out for a leisurely walk that late in the morning or midday just because.
His explanations are very plainly lies. I hope this jury sees that as plain as day.
It was approximately 95-97 degrees at the time of the murder.
https://world-weather.info/forecast/usa/las_vegas_1/2-september/#2022
Time/trial mismanagement at its finest. There is zero reason why they couldn’t have done closing today and had the jury render its verdict before 5pm.
Here’s one: you only get one shot at a conviction. Why rush when you can tie every single possible loose end to increase you odds of a conviction from 99% to 100%?
Because you are pissing jurors off. Knowing what is truly a loose end is important. Showing the Yukon drive in and the BMW drive out- important. Chicken fried rice recipe– not a loose end.
Are the jurors really pissed off? The parties estimated two weeks of trial. We’re not there yet. Isn’t that just trying to set expectations for the jurors? As long as we’re under, seems like they wouldn’t be overly irritated as compared to normal juror irritation. Different story if they were way over time.
They are sitting there evaluating whether this testimony is necessary with every witness and every exhibit.
I missed the end… is there a witness who is not available until Monday? Or is this just a lunch recess?
Last witness is to arrive at 1 pm
Pissing off a jury might be an issue in a civil trial when they start to talk about money. Do you really think someone would say not guilty because they thought the DA took too long?
Demonstrates (again) that RT is a liar.
Who is woman in pink behind defense table?
Your Mom.
My best guess would be a reporter/journalist but idk who she is.
I love her
Vanessa Murphy.
Nice “personalities”
You are gross.
When does Compass Realty sue Telles for slander?
It would be business disparagement more than defamation. And never because they would never be able to collect anything. Compass Realty has gotten tons of free advertising out of this trial.
And never mind anything Telles says on the stand or in direct connection to the legal proceedings in court would likely fall under the absolute litigation privilege or under a witness’s privilege against defamation liability.
good to know. thank you
No case for Compass. I think a litigation privilege would apply
You wait for him to be convicted, so his allegations are rejected by the jury, and you just let it go so you don’t get Streisand Effect.
He’s already made out of court statements in media interviews that could support defamation or business disparagement theories, but what’s the point? The house is encumbered, will go to banks or the wife alone (assuming they don’t stay married), and then reach equity beyond the homestead exemption. If he’s not judgment proof yet, he will be soon. This is the correct conclusion, let it go.
He is not wrong about compass. They have some very suspect practices.
The Rupert Murdoch secret trust case is being kept sealed from the public and media. Our Nevada Judges is challenging that. https://www.ournevadajudges.com/assets/docs/documents/736-objection-to-commissioner-s-recommendation.pdf
Trial on front page Fox news
“Dem politician stumped when confronted with surprise 3-word message in murder trial”
That Rob was a Democrat is the only reason Fox News has such a boner for this trial.
Rob registering and running as a Democrat tells me he knew how best to maximize his chances of being elected in a countywide race in Clark County, nothing more, nothing less.
A la Wolfson…
I’ve been very distracted by the trial this week. I hope to heck the jury gets it today and I don’t have to wait until Monday for closings
Closings start Monday lol.
crap, seriously, I was in a meeting and missed some
At the very least a verdict is almost guaranteed on Monday…the state should keep it short, Draskovich has no material, and we know the jury is gonna vote guilty LOL.
Some unsettled jury instructions, it appears. Jury was released for the weekend. Closings at 9:30 a.m. Monday.
the judge will read the jury instructions before the closing arguments
Cannot wait for this trial to be over so we can focus back on judicial elections…
What’s the over and under for Telles Guilty or Not Guilty?
Let’s put it this way. I’m morbidly obese with Dolly Parton man boobs. There is a better chance that I end up, shirtless on the cover of People magazine as 2025’s “Sexiest Man Alive” issue than Rob has of acquittal.
Justin?
Telles is so clearly and obviously innocent. Anyone who doesn’t agree he is being framed is a HATER!
This trial has been heart break.
Heart break to learn of the grand conspiracy set forth by so many powerful individuals.
Fight the power Telles. Fight it for all of us!
Savage move by the juror asking about Robbie’s height without shoe lifts. Lol.
I really hope that question doesn’t suggest a juror has been reading this blog. That would be no bueno.
Is it true Telles was asked on cross, “Then why not just murder you?”
Yes
Thanks
Lol what’s the context of this question? As in, what was the dialogue or back and forth that prompted this question?
That if Compass Realty wanted to stop Telles’ investigation, and was willing to kill someone to do that, why not just kill Telles instead of killing German to frame Telles for German’s murder.
The answer was epic (and I paraphrase) “Because I am so important that if they killed me someone else would have taken up my cause. This way I have lost credibility and no further investigation in Compass can or will happen.”
Is Compass part of the Mormon Probate Mafia, or is that a different Telles conspiracy theory? Was Rob barking up the wrong frame-job tree, and it was actually the MPM that pulled this job?
It was Porter Rockwell and the Danites.
Civil guy here, can one of you crim guys explain how the communications between telles and his wife not be subject to spousal privilege? How does it get admitted into evidence?
There is no privilege protecting your texts with your wife so long as they are secured with a valid warrant. The spousal privilege just states that the state can’t force your wife to testify against. She can refuse a valid trial subpoena and refuse to appear at trial. Which is probably what happened here. The detective notes indicate she told them she didn’t know where her husband was when the murder happened. She did not confirm his story that he was on a walk.
thank you for that. totally makes sense
You heard it here first: Telles gives at least a part of his closing argument
That’s not an option.
Yes it is. He can take over his own defense at any time
Not gonna happen.
Makes sense. The defense was bifurcated between the actual evidence and Rob’s pants on fire lies, why not do the same for closing.
You got this Rob! When you win your freedom today, come meet me for a drink at the downtown cocktail room. Drinks are on me my friend.
I want to post at 7:59 that it will be a mistrial. On a lawyer blog we all know he is guilty. But I’ve been watching the trial with friends at night and a good third, non lawyers, don’t think he did it saying “there’s too many unanswered questions especially why not a lot of blood on shoes and hat”
“there’s too many unanswered questions especially why not a lot of blood on shoes and hat” If Rob had kept his mouth shut, and let Draskovich hammer this, he might have a shot today- a long shot. I disagree that there is any chance of acquittal. ALL of the jury questions have been unfavorable for Rob.
True! I agree that it is likely most of us lawyers believe Telles is guilty. I socialized with non-lawyers this weekend who streamed the trial this week and they agree with the notion that, “there’s too many unanswered questions especially why not a lot of blood on shoes and hat.” Cross section of locals including hotel workers, realtors, teachers, therapists, and retirees. It only takes one to hang the jury.