Re: Pizza-bombing, and perhaps this is a very foolish question, but would state AGs (as opposed to federal USAs) have any form of concurrent jurisdiction to investigate?
the persons ordering pizza in the name of the murdered son of the judge deserve a special place in Hell.
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May 12, 2025 10:47 am
Extensive coverage in the news today about the hardships of student loan payments resuming. I just don’t get it. What is so horrible about paying back a loan on its agreet terms? What’s the hardship?
I lean to your side but to try to help you understand I think they feel that the kids are so young and the terms so long with no way out that it just doesn’t feel right to them.
I compared the in-state undergraduate tuition that I paid to my state university (not here) in the 1980’s, adjusted for inflation, and then looked at at what that same state university charges in-state students today. The cost is at least triple what it would have been if one had just increased tuition by the rate of inflation each year. Therein lies the problem. Public university education doesn’t need to be free (nor should it be in my opinion), but it should be reasonably affordable for the average person without requiring a mountain of debt.
Shocked that when student loans are handed out like candy that universities increase tuition to get more candy. They now have an appetite and bloat for candy we can’t unwind.
This is 100% correct. It is your school you should be demanding to repay your loan (or a fair amount of it). They ripped you off. Look at the tuition curve and what the immoral schools did right after they lobbied (successfully) Obama to remove all limits on student loans.
And did they use the tuition hikes to better educate you? Maybe. But the curve in growth in administrators at universities is a perfect correlation to the tuition increase curve.
To do that Professors would have to be paid substantially less than they make now. They would also need to decrease the amount of staff and raise taxes substantially. Need to raise taxes about $500 million to cover tuition in Nevada.
The moralisms about free choice and the sanctity of contract are out of place when they arise in a society that ends up charging Warren Buffett’s secretary a higher relative tax rate than Warren Buffett, or which gave PPP loans to famous athletes, hedge funds, and Congressional affiliates and then forgave them. If the millions of student borrowers suddenly thrown back into repayment thought about their loans the same way the High Priests of Finance think about their taxes, or the way corporate lobbyists think about their client’s interests, then each and every one of them should be using debt forgiveness as a litmus test for any political candidate for no better reason than rational self-interest. There are more than enough such borrowers to sway the results of a Presidential election, to say nothing of local races.
The OP was arguing about the sanctity of contract as being tied to tax rates which have absolutely nothing to do with one another. Everyone who signs a contract should be bound to their contract regardless of economic status. The differentials in tax rates are the product of social engineering through the tax code; get rid of those and watch how much more fair (but less satisfying) people will find taxation.
You’re assuming it’s “wrong” to take advantage of tax loopholes and lobby zealously within the boundaries of the law? If those things were “wrong,” surely they would be outlawed. And surely you’re not saying that it’s “wrong” for citizens to form coalitions and insist that their elected representatives enact legislation providing them commonly desired benefits?
@11:49 You do not know what you are talking about, don’t understand the tax code. Even if explained to you, you would reject the fact and continue to believe what you believe.
No. No. UNLV keeps adding more departments, more staff, new buildings, sports teams, and things like “safe rooms” and basket weaving classes that are given credit towards and MBA. Everyone graduates.
If it is free in the form of scholarships then it should be given to the best and brightest and not just those who can check a diversity box. Was college ever really free?
Too many dumshits going to college with no plan other than trying to avoid joining the workforce for as long as possible. By and large, they don’t graduate. And even when they do, they don’t get jobs that allow them to service that mountain of debt.
And the colleges are more than happy to admit these nimrods and take the student loan money.
The fuel that propels this whole diasaster: unfettered student loan money. No guard rails. And te taxpayer takes it in the seat.
This and kids going to private or out of state fancy school that are 2-5 times more expensive than the state school for a “better” education. I know kids that turned down full rides to state schools to go to a better art school. Graduated with close to $150k in debt to work at a coffee shop/book store.
What about the owning/ruling class that refuses to hire without a degree whilst shitting on the higher education system and everyone who chose to go to college after the year 1995??? What blame to they bear for the issue?
I agree to some extent. There is too many people going without a plan. But there is also this arbitrary requirement in so many professions to just have a degree whether it has anything to do with the profession or not. I know plenty of people that started working rather than going to college, but now had to go back because the same jobs they worked for 10/15 years now just require a college degree. Doesn’t matter if it is a marketing, science, history whatever degree,, just an arbitrary requirement to check a box.
More people should be trying to discharge these debts in bankruptcy.
It’s not automatic, but it’s possible.
Of course, there’s plenty of people for whom that would be a financial mistake–they that can probably afford their debt and just wanted to avoid paying something that might be forgiven in the future if they wait.
But I’m sure there are plenty of people for whom that debt is crushing.
While I agree that the loans should be paid back, there is an element of estoppel in telling people that their debt is released and now is not released.
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May 12, 2025 11:23 am
if Trump is allowed to accept a $400 million plane as a gift shouldn’t he have to reimburse the federal government first all repairs and upgrades?
Quatar is offering Trump a free $400 million plane to use as Air Force One but government says it will require substantial security upgrades and cannot be refueled in the air. Trump says since it is a gift to him he will take it with him when he leaves office.
Yeah, you are plain and simply FOS and you know it. The Qatari offer was simply made as a gesture of friendship between nations because Boeing is incompetent and corrupt and can’t bring home astronauts, let alone deliver on the new fleet as promised.
It was brutal….you had to take off your mask to prove your identity to the online proctor, answer questions for an hour and not look at your phone, no selfies while the test was going and not a single question about DEI. Total nightmare.
Admissions standards for all but the top law schoold have dropped precipitously. They’ve dumbed-down the Bar exam as well, but apparently not enough. Just wait, they’ll adjust.
Re: Pizza-bombing, and perhaps this is a very foolish question, but would state AGs (as opposed to federal USAs) have any form of concurrent jurisdiction to investigate?
the persons ordering pizza in the name of the murdered son of the judge deserve a special place in Hell.
Extensive coverage in the news today about the hardships of student loan payments resuming. I just don’t get it. What is so horrible about paying back a loan on its agreet terms? What’s the hardship?
I lean to your side but to try to help you understand I think they feel that the kids are so young and the terms so long with no way out that it just doesn’t feel right to them.
the hardship is that college education should be free
the hardship is that college education should not be exorbitantly overpriced.
I compared the in-state undergraduate tuition that I paid to my state university (not here) in the 1980’s, adjusted for inflation, and then looked at at what that same state university charges in-state students today. The cost is at least triple what it would have been if one had just increased tuition by the rate of inflation each year. Therein lies the problem. Public university education doesn’t need to be free (nor should it be in my opinion), but it should be reasonably affordable for the average person without requiring a mountain of debt.
Shocked that when student loans are handed out like candy that universities increase tuition to get more candy. They now have an appetite and bloat for candy we can’t unwind.
Facts
This is 100% correct. It is your school you should be demanding to repay your loan (or a fair amount of it). They ripped you off. Look at the tuition curve and what the immoral schools did right after they lobbied (successfully) Obama to remove all limits on student loans.
And did they use the tuition hikes to better educate you? Maybe. But the curve in growth in administrators at universities is a perfect correlation to the tuition increase curve.
To do that Professors would have to be paid substantially less than they make now. They would also need to decrease the amount of staff and raise taxes substantially. Need to raise taxes about $500 million to cover tuition in Nevada.
Nah. Tuition is sky high BECAUSE of the unfettered granting of student loans. Its the nature of government involvement. Wait until DOGE gets involved.
YES, still waiting for all this money they’re gonna save us <3 can't wait
The moralisms about free choice and the sanctity of contract are out of place when they arise in a society that ends up charging Warren Buffett’s secretary a higher relative tax rate than Warren Buffett, or which gave PPP loans to famous athletes, hedge funds, and Congressional affiliates and then forgave them. If the millions of student borrowers suddenly thrown back into repayment thought about their loans the same way the High Priests of Finance think about their taxes, or the way corporate lobbyists think about their client’s interests, then each and every one of them should be using debt forgiveness as a litmus test for any political candidate for no better reason than rational self-interest. There are more than enough such borrowers to sway the results of a Presidential election, to say nothing of local races.
Yes, because the credit risk of the secretary is the same as it is for Buffett.
OP was arguing about taxes, which has nothing to do with one’s credit score.
The OP was arguing about the sanctity of contract as being tied to tax rates which have absolutely nothing to do with one another. Everyone who signs a contract should be bound to their contract regardless of economic status. The differentials in tax rates are the product of social engineering through the tax code; get rid of those and watch how much more fair (but less satisfying) people will find taxation.
If the secretary builds another BH then she should get a reduced rate too as an incentive.
So two wrongs make a right? Is that what you’re saying?
You’re assuming it’s “wrong” to take advantage of tax loopholes and lobby zealously within the boundaries of the law? If those things were “wrong,” surely they would be outlawed. And surely you’re not saying that it’s “wrong” for citizens to form coalitions and insist that their elected representatives enact legislation providing them commonly desired benefits?
@11:49 You do not know what you are talking about, don’t understand the tax code. Even if explained to you, you would reject the fact and continue to believe what you believe.
No. No. UNLV keeps adding more departments, more staff, new buildings, sports teams, and things like “safe rooms” and basket weaving classes that are given credit towards and MBA. Everyone graduates.
If it is free in the form of scholarships then it should be given to the best and brightest and not just those who can check a diversity box. Was college ever really free?
Too many dumshits going to college with no plan other than trying to avoid joining the workforce for as long as possible. By and large, they don’t graduate. And even when they do, they don’t get jobs that allow them to service that mountain of debt.
And the colleges are more than happy to admit these nimrods and take the student loan money.
The fuel that propels this whole diasaster: unfettered student loan money. No guard rails. And te taxpayer takes it in the seat.
Real problem is the outrageous tuition.
This and kids going to private or out of state fancy school that are 2-5 times more expensive than the state school for a “better” education. I know kids that turned down full rides to state schools to go to a better art school. Graduated with close to $150k in debt to work at a coffee shop/book store.
Ah – the key here is “art school”. A lesser known path to finding a paying job.
Yeah, make the lender accountable. You would never write (almost all of) these teenagers a mortgage.
What about the owning/ruling class that refuses to hire without a degree whilst shitting on the higher education system and everyone who chose to go to college after the year 1995??? What blame to they bear for the issue?
I agree to some extent. There is too many people going without a plan. But there is also this arbitrary requirement in so many professions to just have a degree whether it has anything to do with the profession or not. I know plenty of people that started working rather than going to college, but now had to go back because the same jobs they worked for 10/15 years now just require a college degree. Doesn’t matter if it is a marketing, science, history whatever degree,, just an arbitrary requirement to check a box.
More people should be trying to discharge these debts in bankruptcy.
It’s not automatic, but it’s possible.
Of course, there’s plenty of people for whom that would be a financial mistake–they that can probably afford their debt and just wanted to avoid paying something that might be forgiven in the future if they wait.
But I’m sure there are plenty of people for whom that debt is crushing.
While I agree that the loans should be paid back, there is an element of estoppel in telling people that their debt is released and now is not released.
if Trump is allowed to accept a $400 million plane as a gift shouldn’t he have to reimburse the federal government first all repairs and upgrades?
This seems a little lacking in context. Maybe I missed a story, but hey, enlighten us.
Quatar is offering Trump a free $400 million plane to use as Air Force One but government says it will require substantial security upgrades and cannot be refueled in the air. Trump says since it is a gift to him he will take it with him when he leaves office.
Qatar
Yeah, you are plain and simply FOS and you know it. The Qatari offer was simply made as a gesture of friendship between nations because Boeing is incompetent and corrupt and can’t bring home astronauts, let alone deliver on the new fleet as promised.
This has been a headline for two days.
Maybe read one of hundreds of articles about this instead of asking someone on a blog to enlighten you.
Tell us about the February 2025 Bar Exam. 46% passage rate. Was it really that difficult?
It was brutal….you had to take off your mask to prove your identity to the online proctor, answer questions for an hour and not look at your phone, no selfies while the test was going and not a single question about DEI. Total nightmare.
Why are you still wearing masks??
and how does this harm you?
Admissions standards for all but the top law schoold have dropped precipitously. They’ve dumbed-down the Bar exam as well, but apparently not enough. Just wait, they’ll adjust.