The Ol’ Switcheroo

  • Law

  • As Nevada opened vaccines to all adults, Clark County passed the 1 million vaccine milestone. [Las Vegas Sun]
  • How a cryptocurrency tycoon is working Nevada’s elite to get his own government. [RGJ
  • North Las Vegas Mayor John Lee switches parties. [TNI]
  • The ACLU hired two new staff attorneys. [RJ]
  • Las Vegas water official wants to ban all unused turf. [Las Vegas Sun]
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April 6, 2021 4:52 pm

John Lee switches parties, justified by the tired mantra that the democratic part is being taken over by the "socialists"–proving that many on the right throw around the term "socialism" just to sound inflammatory, but without really understanding it.

Problem is, some of this incoming team of new progressive democrats, who identify themselves as "socialists" understand the concept even less.

Socialism is when the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned and regulated by the community as a whole.

Now, that may work for certain small communes or other organizations, but it never works as a standard for a country to operate under, since the means of production are never owned and controlled by the people at large in a socialist regime, but instead controlled completely by the government.

And the people remain peon worker slaves under the new government, perhaps even to a worse degree than under the earlier government.

And socialism, as a governmental concept, is not necessarily a clear, stepping-stone whereby communism is the next level–but that can often be the case. But sometimes the next level, wherein the government becomes even more oppressive, may not necessarily be a communist regime, but may be some other form of oligarchy or brutal dictatorship(sometimes a military or religious take over).

So, in my estimation, based on the discussion and rationale Mr. lee offered for leaving the democratic party, it might make a lot more sense for him to simply say that he is tired of this cancel culture, and that his second amendment views, and pro-life views, and other views, are inconsistent with the democratic party as currently configurated. That would make a lot of sense based on the details he offered for his switch.

But it appears everything now has to be super charged hyperbole and absolutely ludicrous name-calling. Some on the left call some on the right Hitler or fascist, while some on the right now call some on the left socialist, communist, Stalin, or whatever.

It's all so absurd, and prevents anyone form having a rational, respectful dialogue.

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April 6, 2021 5:28 pm
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Before you go blasting everyone else for lacking your nuanced analytical skills, consider that our biggest budget item and the GQP's greatest source of arousal is by very definition a socialist construct. We aren't a purely capitalistic society and never have been.

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April 6, 2021 5:46 pm
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Just like Jerry Tao keeps changing parties, Nevada Court of Appeals.

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April 6, 2021 7:13 pm
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Look– I actually get the party switch on a couple of levels. The state party is NOT a party that John Lee aligns with now and has not aligned with for a very long time. Lee was running for Congress for 2012 and was asked by the state party to step aside so they could run Horsford but was assured that the party would support him for higher office. Lee obliged. The party not only did not support him for higher office but changed his district to encompass West Las Vegas and then backed Pat Spearman against him for his own legislative seat.

Secondarily the state Republicans are a mess. Think they are going run Laxalt again for governor? Well they might but it would be a disaster bigger than bringing Dan Rodimer back from Texas to run for governor. If John Lee could get the nomination, he could cleave enough conservative Dems away to probably swing the election. He should get OFF of Fox & Friends and run to the middle. However it is not a surprising move.

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April 6, 2021 7:30 pm
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10:28–9:52 here.

Actually, I totally agree with you. We never have been a totally capitalist society and never will be.

So, to simply say we have a capitalistic economic system is incomplete and not fully correct, and to say our representative, or legislative, system is that of a pure democracy is likewise not accurate complete. We are more of a representative republic.

To avoid some of these inflammatory, and largely misleading, labels which pit us against each other, there is much we can do to turn down the volume a bit–such as rather than "socialized medicine"(which it really is not) call it "nationalized medicine"(which is a little more accurate–well, kind of).

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April 6, 2021 7:40 pm
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12:13. You're correct. If by 2022 covid is reasonably well under control(I can dream,can't I?) Sisolak(despite the current bashing he still takes from some quarters) would easily beat Laxalt again.

But, as you suggest, if the GOP does not yield the nomination to a more juiced-in candidate like Laxalt, but gets behind someone who is more moderate and actually may have a real chance(you suggest John Lee), the GOP could still possibly regain the state house.

But, sorry, ultra conservative Republicans will not be winning state-wide Nevada office for some time. I'm not saying that such is a good thing, just that it is a fact.

It is true that in Nevada the republican and democrat trends can shift dramatically from election to election, but that was when we were still a toss-up state, and even to some extent when we turned purple.

But we have truly turned blue, and that trend continues as younger voters take over. And the majority of young voters are democrat–even the ones who were raised by republican parents.

Those are the facts and the trends. At least it seems to look that way

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April 6, 2021 7:51 pm
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The Republicans in Nevada are done. Thanks, McDonald and other RINOs. We needed a Noehm or DeSantis to run, and we got Laxalt. I'm never voting in a local election again.

Nationally, I am not as worried about "socialism" as I am about corporate fascism where a handful of oligarchs and their buddies in the deep state run everything. Gates and Bezos demonstrated obscene power recently. Who elected them?

Imagine Amazon continuing its vast hoarding of resources and power while Gates runs WHO. A few individuals with zero accountability holding all power is a bad idea. (Insert Sisolak joke here…)

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April 6, 2021 8:18 pm
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12:51 you seem out of it. 12:40 is on point. The republican party is the party of the past. More and more people are turning 18 every day and they are getting out to vote. More and more boomers are dying every day. The republican party has not stayed current with the population and its membership is growing older and closer to the grave every day. Younger voters are left with virtually no choice. DeSantis is a crook and a joke. He's not getting the youth vote ever. As long as the republicans continue to target the Q voters and the boomer generation, the more they are going to lose. The cruelty of the republican party towards LGBTQ people alone is going to drive young voters away from them.

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April 6, 2021 8:27 pm
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Amen 1:18. The party of economists, intellectuals, and Alex P. Keaton is long gone.

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April 6, 2021 8:42 pm
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The Repuglicans are done. Time for Trump to rise from the ashes of the Deep State takedown and take his rightful place at the helm of the New Republican (or something else) Party. This time DeSantis and Gaetz need to be his top advisors. Decisive faithful men of action.

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April 6, 2021 9:02 pm
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@142

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April 6, 2021 9:03 pm
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APPLAUSE STANDING O

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April 6, 2021 9:14 pm
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Like I said, the party of economists and intellectuals is long gone.

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April 6, 2021 10:10 pm
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Make mine a STANDING Q

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April 6, 2021 10:33 pm
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It's too late. Team Biden is going to start a war. While we are distracted, the continued plundering of America will go forward at full speed. Big Pharma, Big Defense, Big Insurance, Big Banking, Big Tech, all put a lot of effort into getting rid of Orange Man. Time to pay the bill, Biden.

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April 6, 2021 11:48 pm
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3:33,

Don't you have an weekly overpayment to the Trump campaign to get refunded?

I mean, 3% of all credit card fraud claims were because of the Trump campaign.

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April 7, 2021 7:47 pm
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9:52 You need to go back to school. Your definition of socialism ("socialism is when the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned and regulated by the community as a whole") is actually the definition of communism. Socialism is where public goods are owned and regulated by the community. What is a public good? A public good is a good (or service) that no one individual is incentivized to provide but that is necessary and benefits everyone. National defense is the classic example. And where [r]epublicans get it wrong is where they want to privatize public goods. When they have privatized prisons and schools, for example, problems were sure to follow, and they did. Exhibit A is former MI Gov. Snyder's failed privatization of prison services in Michigan.

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April 7, 2021 9:28 pm
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Actually, neither you or 9:52 are wrong.

9:52 did provide an acceptable definition of socialism(at least in theory). I understand that the close linkage "commune" and "communism" casus a temptation for you to assume that when the community controls these factors, that such, by definition, mist be communism, but not socialism.

But no one needs to go back to school. In fact you guys are splitting hairs and no one is wrong.

The intent behind the original theory of socialism is that the community would control the means of production, etc. But as the 20th century grinded on such "community" was invariably a despotic "government."

The whole lesson behind this is that whatever good or altruism may lie in any initial socialist theories, or in the The Communist Manifesto, the theories have become perverted when put into play in a governmental context.

Brutal regimes will designate themselves socialist or communist even when their economic, and legislative features, bear little or no resemblance to the original theories. Just like other brutal regimes will call themselves "people's republic Of…"

Just as misleading.

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April 6, 2021 5:38 pm

"America will never be a socialist country,” Donald Trump declared in his State of the Union address. Someone should alert Trump that America is now a hotbed of socialism. But it is socialism for the rich. Everyone else is treated to harsh capitalism.

In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs." Robert Reich

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April 6, 2021 9:58 pm
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As long as you socialists like this policy, you will continue to get staff who wants to get paid to do nothing. Then again, what else is new.

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April 7, 2021 12:37 am
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What policy are you talking about, 2:58?

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April 6, 2021 6:58 pm

@10:38 "That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks"
First, Reich is not a middle of the road politician, he is far left, almost a communist. Aside from that, consider the capital (money) it takes to start and run a bank and the financial and legal risks that an investor/bank takes. Hardly getting something for nothing.

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April 6, 2021 7:17 pm

I am not really certain how certain departments expect the Order to be submitted within 14 days when it is now 31 days after a hearing and the department has not managed to post the Minutes from the non-evidentiary hearing.

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April 6, 2021 8:11 pm
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12:17 you must be new and I do not mean that rudely, I mean it that you need to learn the tricks of the trade. I clerked and saw that the minutes are often wrong, incomplete and late. Seasoned veterans tape (I'm not sure if this is allowed) but I'm stating my empirical observation and not a recommendation. Then you can go back and note what was ordered, timestamp it, and separate dicta which many attorneys (at least in Family Court) will try to label an order if it helps them. Good luck.

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April 6, 2021 8:42 pm
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Please call the JEA or law clerk for that department and follow up.

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April 6, 2021 8:56 pm
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Order the video. It's $20. Then you can time stamp the order.

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April 6, 2021 9:58 pm
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1:11 I appreciate your kind comments (although I am not new). This particular department (civil not family) is notoriously slow. This particular department also follows its Minutes like they are Gospel in reviewing Orders. Your are right– the tape is not a terrible idea although for some reason Family Court seems to be light years ahead of civil/downtown on this issue.

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April 7, 2021 12:39 am
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You're*

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April 7, 2021 9:36 pm

I am not new and I do rely on the minutes in the Register of Action since it is cheaper. (its free) But when I do request the video in Family Court it sometimes takes a little while to get it. However it takes a lot longer to get a transcript of the Hearing in Civil Court and it costs money.