I don't agree with deleting these stories but this is not a democracy and I respect that. I'm actually watching the video now and it's sort of fun. Family court is such a shit show and should be disbanded. Every judge should be general jurisdiction.
This will be the last time I waste my time explaining my position on this matter. I'm not a fan of Sanson, nor of his opposition. I think both sides are petty, immature, unbecoming, and are generally annoying. When either side starts commenting here, the entire discourse goes to hell. I simply don't think this is a story that is relevant or interesting to the majority of our readers, and I chose to not allow this blog to become entangled in that shitshow.
I'd like to point out that at the top of the blog, it says, " las vegas, nevada legal news, rumors, gossip, etc." The fight has a major impact on many aspects of life in Las Vegas and certainly falls into the category of et cetera. That said, if you have better ideas for things to post out about, let us know. We're always open to your law-related tips, rumors, speculation, opinions, gossip, comments, rants and complaints, so long as they're work-appropriate and slander free.
Yes, quickdraw, a District Court Judge called for an investigation into the corruption of Steve Sanson and Veterans In Politics. It's not slander, it's fact. A link to the JAVS hearing where the exchange occurred was included in the original post. I think that may just fall under the umbrella of legal news, gossip, and rumors, but perhaps I'm wrong.
Ever wonder why wild wild law and elle's blog didn't make it? Trolls like those we are dealing with now, and a number of others through the years, who try to hijack our blogs for their own personal axe grinding.
I agree. If you want to grind an axe, get your own blog or Facebook page and knock yourself out. That way, you can get yourself sued, rather than making QD and LD deal with your mess. I come here for stimulating conversation and news, and this family law drama is anything but that.
law.dog,8:49, in my estimation is for the most part right, but not in the right as to one matter.
Completely right that the dialogue between the two sides has disintegrated to a very vitriolic level which serves no one.
Completely right that, as operators of this blog, they can, and should, provide time and space for different people to weigh in on several different issues in a given day, rather than letting two highly inflamed sides dominate the blog as to this one highly contentious issue. They are making the right call in exercising some modicum of control over the situation so that the blog can be enjoyed by many, on many different subjects.
But the mistake I think that is being made is the assumption that because a few bloggers have abused this blog by filling it to the gills with highly inflamed rhetoric on both sides of this VIP issue, that such must mean that it is not a valid issue. It is in fact a highly valid, newsworthy issue which is directly interfering with the current operations of Family Court–the court the average citizen is most likely to appear in.
So, I certainly understand why you deleted the longer and more attack-oriented entries. However, I'm a little at a loss as to why you deleted the one or two sentence informational, and highly newsworthy, entry that a Judge referenced such organization in an open hearing,as well as what types of outside influences would not be tolerated.
But, as you say, everyone is at liberty to attempt to start their own blog, where they can dominate it with whatever topic they want. No argument from me as to that point.
You might have a point, but how do you propose the admins determine which comments stay and which ones go? Which ones have just a little bit too much vitriol, and which ones have just the right amount? Don't you think it might be easier just to err on the side of caution for efficiency sake when dealing with, for the most part, irrational actors?
What 9:56 said mostly, but also, it's not like anyone here can't figure out what is going on. This blog doesn't want to be in the middle of the litigation and if there is enough interest, the RJ or someone more dedicated to reporting will pick it up. The truth will get out there.
I am working on constructing a vitriolmeter.If a comment has 5.0
or more vitriol on a scale of 0.0 to 10.0, it is deleted. If it measures 4.9 or less on the vitolmeter, it stays.
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September 1, 2017 3:56 pm
I agree with LawyerBird. The video in question is highly relevant and interesting to a discussion of legal issues in this community and intimidation of the judiciary (even if many of the personal stories yesterday were not). It seems that there is a way to discuss the judiciary side of the story without delving into the personal attacks and discussion of some of the players. Furthermore failure to discuss the story on some level feels viscerally as if a bully is winning through threats.
However this is not my Blog. I will not be the one fighting subpoenas (well maybe I will be depending on how wide and vast of a net someone might try to cast because who knows who gets their IP dragged in). Furthermore there is a forum (which is where the video is housed) where people can go discuss it.
8:59– I think free speech is awesome. I also think not getting sued or answering subpoenas for something that Law.Dawg does not get paid for is awesome. Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor.
Also interesting – attorneys who don't understand that freedom of speech is only implicated when the government inhibits speech. Unless I missed something, this isn't a government website so….
Yeah! Time to pack up your circus and hop on the next train, you Sanson and Opposition freaks! Next stop, Crazytown! BOOM, DOUBLE KICKSTANDS IN YOUR FACE!!
Even great websites like Reddit has commenting/posting rules. Sometimes, when the behavior gets so bad on a particular thread, they simply lock it down. I hope it doesn't come to that here.
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September 1, 2017 3:57 pm
A judge recusing himself because of the interference and intimidation of a veterans leader isn't of interest?
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September 1, 2017 3:57 pm
Best prediction from any site anywhere came from this blog:
"Mayweather dances around for 5 rounds while MacGregor tries to throw haymakers. MacGregor starts to get winded and slows down, and Mayweather beats the holy hell out of him hearkening back to his "Pretty Boy Floyd" days. They both make out like bandits (which was the point of all this), and Floyd earns enough to pay his IRS bills."
That is Nell Carter gimme a break, my legal blog dude.
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September 1, 2017 4:16 pm
I collect reaction gifs but my stash is getting stale. Law themed gifs welcome (most of what I have are Bob Loblaw ones).
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September 1, 2017 4:36 pm
This whole situation is sad. There isn't a judicial instruction book for handling crazy. I cannot blame LB, QM, NMA, or LD for wanting this blog to stay out of the war zone. The wackiness of the whole situation is surpassed only by the paranoia and childishness of the primary party involved.
I miss the innocent days of Wild Wild Law.
Double Kickstands, everyone (especially you, BK Hottie wherever you are). Happy Labor Day
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September 1, 2017 5:04 pm
Discussions/news/gossip, etc… about family court is extremely relevant to this blog's readers. Considering the high rate of divorce among attorneys, and the even higher likelihood of any kind of attorney being asked to help with a family law issue/matter, most of us will at one point or another be involved with the family courts. It is a good thing to know in advance what a COMPLETE AND UTTER SHIT SHOW the judges are, as that information will serve as an incentive to SETTLE often and early.
Having said all that… Sanson should seriously consider whether, in his instance, the messenger is killing the message, and which is more important to him.
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September 1, 2017 5:45 pm
On a different topic, how about that cop who arrested a nurse who had the temerity to tell him what he needed to do before he took blood from an innocent comatose patient. And that the reason he wanted to take the blood was essentially to cover SLCPD's own ads for possible liability to the patient for an injury suffered during a police chase.
Just watched the report. It makes my blood boil. I know there are good cops out there, but I can't understand why they stand by and let this shit happen.
Brotherhood of silence, my friend. It is us against them. There are good cops out there. I hear the arguments about one bad actor. However this video (or should I say videos because there are many from different perspectives) show
(1) an out of control Detective Payne from SLCPD; backed up by
(2) a uniformed SLCPD officer (which is the primary cam shown) who does nothing to stop Detective Payne, does nothing to stop the situation but stand by and allow Payne to go crazy and then who does nothing but block the hospital administrators and privacy officer from intervening to talk some sense into
(3) Lt. James Tracy who allegedly was on the phone and ordered the arrest and then showed up at the scene and told Nurse Wubbels that he determines what the law is and if it violates constitutional rights so what because there are civil remedies when the cops violate the Constitution; not to mention the
(4) all of the University of Utah Police Officers in the video who not only do not provide any security to the hospital and staff (as is their job) but actually back up the SLCPD officers in violating the rights of people within the hospital.
So you tell me that there are good cops out there and yet when you get a bunch of them together not a SINGLE one followed the law (which the hospital staff all knew) or stepped in to deescalate the situation, halt the violence or follow the law. The reason why officers get a bad name collectively is that when they act collectively they often earn a bad name.
The same reason health care is F*&Ked in this country. The conspiracy of silence. Either ignore or cover-up the mistakes of others and to hell with patient safety. Even if bad cops or bad healthcare providers represent a small minority, when their brethren cover for them it multiplies the effects of their bad conduct exponentially. Rather than get rid of the bad apples and determine how to avoid such incidents in the future, everyone is more concerned about covering it up.
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BRING BACK LAWYER HOT THREAD!! MAKE BLOG CHAUVINISTIC AGAIN
Anybody know the latest on the upcoming trials for Rob Graham and April Parks (including her attorney NP Simpson?). I think Rob was scheduled to go to trial on Tuesday, but it looks like it has been vacated. Anybody know why? April is set to go to trial mid-September. Is that still going as scheduled?
8:34– No I understand that. However I did not think anyone had been charged as a co-defendant with Graham. Are there more defendants in Graham's case that we do not know about? Who is the second defendant who allegedly created the conflict?
Could be a conflict with a witness. I have no idea.
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September 1, 2017 8:22 pm
No one can advance hard data to show that letting felons seal records benefits society. How about we build more prisons and fill them up with the repeat offenders who prey upon the innocent?
When governor Laxalt takes office, he should celebrate by clearing death row in one night. Use commemorative bullets, so you can sell the casings at auction to raise money for the next batch of cretins.
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I thought we weren't doing this here.
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Why are you scared of facts?
You've got your own website. Go discuss this stuff there.
No, I really don't. Are you suppressing this story for a reason?
Well, feel free to setup your own blog and discuss this at your leisure. Over there. Not here.
I don't agree with deleting these stories but this is not a democracy and I respect that. I'm actually watching the video now and it's sort of fun. Family court is such a shit show and should be disbanded. Every judge should be general jurisdiction.
This will be the last time I waste my time explaining my position on this matter. I'm not a fan of Sanson, nor of his opposition. I think both sides are petty, immature, unbecoming, and are generally annoying. When either side starts commenting here, the entire discourse goes to hell. I simply don't think this is a story that is relevant or interesting to the majority of our readers, and I chose to not allow this blog to become entangled in that shitshow.
^^^^Amen
Yet, predictions on Mayweather/McGregor were right on point with law and Justice in Las Vegas?? Okay.
I'd like to point out that at the top of the blog, it says, " las vegas, nevada legal news, rumors, gossip, etc." The fight has a major impact on many aspects of life in Las Vegas and certainly falls into the category of et cetera. That said, if you have better ideas for things to post out about, let us know. We're always open to your law-related tips, rumors, speculation, opinions, gossip, comments, rants and complaints, so long as they're work-appropriate and slander free.
Yes, quickdraw, a District Court Judge called for an investigation into the corruption of Steve Sanson and Veterans In Politics. It's not slander, it's fact. A link to the JAVS hearing where the exchange occurred was included in the original post. I think that may just fall under the umbrella of legal news, gossip, and rumors, but perhaps I'm wrong.
Ever wonder why wild wild law and elle's blog didn't make it? Trolls like those we are dealing with now, and a number of others through the years, who try to hijack our blogs for their own personal axe grinding.
I agree. If you want to grind an axe, get your own blog or Facebook page and knock yourself out. That way, you can get yourself sued, rather than making QD and LD deal with your mess. I come here for stimulating conversation and news, and this family law drama is anything but that.
law.dog,8:49, in my estimation is for the most part right, but not in the right as to one matter.
Completely right that the dialogue between the two sides has disintegrated to a very vitriolic level which serves no one.
Completely right that, as operators of this blog, they can, and should, provide time and space for different people to weigh in on several different issues in a given day, rather than letting two highly inflamed sides dominate the blog as to this one highly contentious issue. They are making the right call in exercising some modicum of control over the situation so that the blog can be enjoyed by many, on many different subjects.
But the mistake I think that is being made is the assumption that because a few bloggers have abused this blog by filling it to the gills with highly inflamed rhetoric on both sides of this VIP issue, that such must mean that it is not a valid issue. It is in fact a highly valid, newsworthy issue which is directly interfering with the current operations of Family Court–the court the average citizen is most likely to appear in.
So, I certainly understand why you deleted the longer and more attack-oriented entries. However, I'm a little at a loss as to why you deleted the one or two sentence informational, and highly newsworthy, entry that a Judge referenced such organization in an open hearing,as well as what types of outside influences would not be tolerated.
But, as you say, everyone is at liberty to attempt to start their own blog, where they can dominate it with whatever topic they want. No argument from me as to that point.
You might have a point, but how do you propose the admins determine which comments stay and which ones go? Which ones have just a little bit too much vitriol, and which ones have just the right amount? Don't you think it might be easier just to err on the side of caution for efficiency sake when dealing with, for the most part, irrational actors?
What 9:56 said mostly, but also, it's not like anyone here can't figure out what is going on. This blog doesn't want to be in the middle of the litigation and if there is enough interest, the RJ or someone more dedicated to reporting will pick it up. The truth will get out there.
To: 10:10. It's 9:56 here again.
I am working on constructing a vitriolmeter.If a comment has 5.0
or more vitriol on a scale of 0.0 to 10.0, it is deleted. If it measures 4.9 or less on the vitolmeter, it stays.
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I agree with LawyerBird. The video in question is highly relevant and interesting to a discussion of legal issues in this community and intimidation of the judiciary (even if many of the personal stories yesterday were not). It seems that there is a way to discuss the judiciary side of the story without delving into the personal attacks and discussion of some of the players. Furthermore failure to discuss the story on some level feels viscerally as if a bully is winning through threats.
However this is not my Blog. I will not be the one fighting subpoenas (well maybe I will be depending on how wide and vast of a net someone might try to cast because who knows who gets their IP dragged in). Furthermore there is a forum (which is where the video is housed) where people can go discuss it.
Free speech is a pretty amazing thing. We're now afraid of it on an anonymous law blog? Huh??
8:59– I think free speech is awesome. I also think not getting sued or answering subpoenas for something that Law.Dawg does not get paid for is awesome. Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor.
Also interesting – attorneys who don't understand that freedom of speech is only implicated when the government inhibits speech. Unless I missed something, this isn't a government website so….
Yeah! Time to pack up your circus and hop on the next train, you Sanson and Opposition freaks! Next stop, Crazytown! BOOM, DOUBLE KICKSTANDS IN YOUR FACE!!
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RJC bunch are not much better than the Family Court occult. Vote the losers out.
Even great websites like Reddit has commenting/posting rules. Sometimes, when the behavior gets so bad on a particular thread, they simply lock it down. I hope it doesn't come to that here.
A judge recusing himself because of the interference and intimidation of a veterans leader isn't of interest?
Best prediction from any site anywhere came from this blog:
https://lasvegaslawblog.blogspot.com/2017/08/mayweather-v-mcgregor.html?showComment=1503684993822#c38777049535106400
"Mayweather dances around for 5 rounds while MacGregor tries to throw haymakers. MacGregor starts to get winded and slows down, and Mayweather beats the holy hell out of him hearkening back to his "Pretty Boy Floyd" days. They both make out like bandits (which was the point of all this), and Floyd earns enough to pay his IRS bills."
So clearly I need to be posting about judicial interference on a TMT page.
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That is Nell Carter gimme a break, my legal blog dude.
I collect reaction gifs but my stash is getting stale. Law themed gifs welcome (most of what I have are Bob Loblaw ones).
This whole situation is sad. There isn't a judicial instruction book for handling crazy. I cannot blame LB, QM, NMA, or LD for wanting this blog to stay out of the war zone. The wackiness of the whole situation is surpassed only by the paranoia and childishness of the primary party involved.
I miss the innocent days of Wild Wild Law.
Double Kickstands, everyone (especially you, BK Hottie wherever you are). Happy Labor Day
Discussions/news/gossip, etc… about family court is extremely relevant to this blog's readers. Considering the high rate of divorce among attorneys, and the even higher likelihood of any kind of attorney being asked to help with a family law issue/matter, most of us will at one point or another be involved with the family courts. It is a good thing to know in advance what a COMPLETE AND UTTER SHIT SHOW the judges are, as that information will serve as an incentive to SETTLE often and early.
Having said all that… Sanson should seriously consider whether, in his instance, the messenger is killing the message, and which is more important to him.
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
On a different topic, how about that cop who arrested a nurse who had the temerity to tell him what he needed to do before he took blood from an innocent comatose patient. And that the reason he wanted to take the blood was essentially to cover SLCPD's own ads for possible liability to the patient for an injury suffered during a police chase.
Just watched the report. It makes my blood boil. I know there are good cops out there, but I can't understand why they stand by and let this shit happen.
Brotherhood of silence, my friend. It is us against them. There are good cops out there. I hear the arguments about one bad actor. However this video (or should I say videos because there are many from different perspectives) show
(1) an out of control Detective Payne from SLCPD; backed up by
(2) a uniformed SLCPD officer (which is the primary cam shown) who does nothing to stop Detective Payne, does nothing to stop the situation but stand by and allow Payne to go crazy and then who does nothing but block the hospital administrators and privacy officer from intervening to talk some sense into
(3) Lt. James Tracy who allegedly was on the phone and ordered the arrest and then showed up at the scene and told Nurse Wubbels that he determines what the law is and if it violates constitutional rights so what because there are civil remedies when the cops violate the Constitution; not to mention the
(4) all of the University of Utah Police Officers in the video who not only do not provide any security to the hospital and staff (as is their job) but actually back up the SLCPD officers in violating the rights of people within the hospital.
So you tell me that there are good cops out there and yet when you get a bunch of them together not a SINGLE one followed the law (which the hospital staff all knew) or stepped in to deescalate the situation, halt the violence or follow the law. The reason why officers get a bad name collectively is that when they act collectively they often earn a bad name.
The same reason health care is F*&Ked in this country. The conspiracy of silence. Either ignore or cover-up the mistakes of others and to hell with patient safety. Even if bad cops or bad healthcare providers represent a small minority, when their brethren cover for them it multiplies the effects of their bad conduct exponentially. Rather than get rid of the bad apples and determine how to avoid such incidents in the future, everyone is more concerned about covering it up.
BRING BACK LAWYER HOT THREAD!! MAKE BLOG CHAUVINISTIC AGAIN
Anat Levy gets my vote!!
Blog admin working overtime today! lol
Anybody know the latest on the upcoming trials for Rob Graham and April Parks (including her attorney NP Simpson?). I think Rob was scheduled to go to trial on Tuesday, but it looks like it has been vacated. Anybody know why? April is set to go to trial mid-September. Is that still going as scheduled?
Any deals for these two?
Looks like it might be continued. Writ being heard for Simpson on the 13th that may continue trial.
So for Rob Graham trial date is no longer September 5th? Can anyone look that up?
It's public record, anyone can look it up. The PD is conflicting off, a status check is set for September 5.
Conflicting off because PD has a co-defendant? What is the basis of the conflict?
2 defendants have competing interest in criminal law, so they can't be represented by the same firm or agency.
Shouldn't they have known this from the beginning? What took so long to figure out that there was a conflict?
8:34– No I understand that. However I did not think anyone had been charged as a co-defendant with Graham. Are there more defendants in Graham's case that we do not know about? Who is the second defendant who allegedly created the conflict?
Could be a conflict with a witness. I have no idea.
No one can advance hard data to show that letting felons seal records benefits society. How about we build more prisons and fill them up with the repeat offenders who prey upon the innocent?
When governor Laxalt takes office, he should celebrate by clearing death row in one night. Use commemorative bullets, so you can sell the casings at auction to raise money for the next batch of cretins.
I can't tell if this is tongue in cheek or not. That's how bad things have gotten – I can totally see someone trying to suggest this seriously.
I agree. Is this some form of Swiftian satire or is this person out of their mind?
Hilarious spoof on Mayweather/McGregor that almost mimicked the prediction from this blog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwC8rO1-uOc