Check here for the latest orders regarding District of Nevada federal court.
Attorney Jerry Gillock and his staff found a body while cleaning up around their office the other day. [News3LV]
There was a debate between 3 candidates for Department 5 last week: Veronica Barisich; Terry Coffing; and, Blair Parker. Video of the debate is available at the RJ.
The US Supreme Court has postponed its March argument session. [SCOTUSblog]
With all the closures and precautions being put in place, the next few months are going to be a little unusual. What are you doing to adjust or deal with it?
Unclear. Entirely different court, not generally subject to direct control by the district court, but in the same building as the EJDC. As far as I am aware, there are no general orders for Las Vegas Township Justice Court. But as a practical matter, if the EJDC is barring entry, Justice Court I would think would necessarily be in the same boat.
I am wondering the same thing. I see justice court issued an order regarding traffic tickets and bench warrants for tickets due to this situation but nothing in regards to civil and criminal cases
Think about it this way. Would you rather sit with counsel in District Court cases or the Great Masses that pack the galleries for a Justice Court proceeding ?
So all out of custody crim matters (minus prelims) are kicked 60 days. But prelims aren't listed as essential hearing/case type in that order. Does that mean preliminary hearings will be continued just not for 60 days as they are not listed under "essential hearings" in that order?
6:38, that is quite an ambiguity, isn't it? I would read "1. All in-custody proceedings for criminal matters" on page 2 to be inclusive of in-custody preliminary hearings. It's not clear what will become of out-of-custody preliminary hearings.
Justice Court deciding to conduct the Petri Dish that we call eviction hearings as "essential" is a farce. We care about disease but have no issue with a packed courtroom of virus-carriers sitting on top of one another.
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March 16, 2020 4:39 pm
Similar restrictions are in place for the U.S. District Court, District of Nevada:
I am the head of a small firm (5 lawyers or less). Aside from all of the existential worry, I see these big employers closing their doors and promising to pay staff for weeks of furlough. I don't think we have the money for 8 weeks of salaries and rent while staff sits home. Anyone else facing this right now? Are you going to lay people off? Attorneys can work from home and write briefs and do their telephonic appearances from their cell phones if they choose. But staff I have no idea how to have them work from home.
Our firm is a little larger, but I don't think we have the money for salaries and rent for even a much shorter time than eight weeks. Wow. This is terrible. Makes 2008 look like nothing.
Transition to web based document management. Depending on what your staff does, phone calls can be forwarded and staff can access these programs from anywhere.
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March 16, 2020 5:38 pm
Nevada just issued an order requiring cremation of COVID-19 deaths in the State of Nevada.
A few offices are doing the same thing. Mostly bc attorneys have the capability to work from home and still get everything done. Support staff in a lot of cases, can't.
I am working from home, but going in a few times a week to sign things.
yay it's Trumps fault, that bastard went to Wuhan and ate a raw monkey or somethin', sum' bitch, Pelosi woulda cured it just with a wink of her eye, AOC sprouts magic farts that woulda kilt da hole dam thing
I have strong opinions about this but I am avoiding sharing them because right now blame will do no good. We need to focus on survival. When this is over we can work to hold the guilty accountable.
I will wade into the political waters: I am damn glad that we have Anthony Fauci on that stage. In crisis, I want someone at the helm who knows what he is going. I believe he knows what he is doing. I believe he is making people who do not listen to anyone ever listen to him and follow his advice.
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March 16, 2020 9:32 pm
At a certain point won't we all be exposed to this? If so, how does shutting everything down flatten the curve (prevent a spike in those affected that will overwhelm health care services)? Those needing hospitalization will be delayed, maybe, and then will spike when people need or feel safe to come out of the house. Perhaps this is needed to give time to prepare? I don't know. It's going to be tough financially though if everything comes to a halt.
The goal of "flattening the curve" is only partly to reduce the total number of infections. It's also to spread the number of infections over a longer period of time. If your hospital can handle 30 acute cases of pneumonia a week, there's a major difference between having 300 cases over 3 weeks versus 30 cases a week for 10 weeks. The latter allows the hospital to provide adequate care for all. Also, the latter gives those who recover in the first few weeks the immunity they need to slow down the infection rate in the general population.
I get it. But won't this just delay a spike in the future, given that most have mild symptoms and will spread the virus when the coast seems clear? Or will everyone have to be in lock down for a year?
I've got a curve you can flatten, Fauci. That little turd is Kate McKinnon's SNL gravy-train, and our economic grim reaper. Should have never handed the keys to the country over to the CDC…they don't know how to drive.
No. The goal is to avoid the spike or spread the spike so that it stays within manageable levels. Say we have 100 ICU beds. If the present trajectory is that we will have 50 cases next week and then 150 case and then 300 cases and then 1000 cases over the next 4 weeks, the system will be flooded by 1500 cases in 4 weeks and will be at 10 times capacity in 4 weeks.
If we can "flatten the curve" and spread 75 cases a week over 20 weeks, the system will spread it out over 20 weeks and never exceed capacity. Furthermore the developments make a treatment more likely 20 weeks from now than having it be necessary so much sooner.
Drastically reducing the number of encounters with infected persons or things will slow the rate of growth. Slowing the rate of growth is all about not overwhelming the healthcare system. If you successfully make as many people hunker down at home as possible and keep contacts controlled to people who have been successfully isolated from infection, the spread of the virus will slow. That will give those who do become infected the time to develop their own immunity to it, meaning those people won't be able to get the same strain again and won't (we hope) be capable of spreading it once they've developed immunity. And for those who develop severe symptoms, due to age or other underlying health conditions, they will get the intensive care they need.
A problem we're facing is with a totally botched testing regime. By the time you have the evidence of where the virus is and where it's spreading, evidence needed to impose draconian measures, the virus is already in the wild and spreading uncontrollably.
You're right with regard to our local economy since such a high percentage of it is concentrated in gaming and tourism. We are, unfortunately, very sensitive to economic downturns. Hotels won't get back those unsold rooms. Casinos won't recoup those unplaced NCAA basketball bets. But for regions where the economy is more diverse, the impact won't be as great. Manufacturing, agriculture, and tech are less sensitive to sharp economic moves. The things that aren't being bought now are still needed and will bought in the future. The aggregate national economy will suffer some; but it will be less severe than our local economy and will bounce back sooner.
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March 16, 2020 10:01 pm
When did Paradigm process servers go out if business? Any recommendations?
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March 16, 2020 10:37 pm
On a serious note, I might be an irritable, rascally opposing counsel who a lot of you would not like were you to know my name, but I really do wish you and your families well and sincerely hope we all make it out alive, I hope you are all OK, well except you Hooge, you can eat a bowl of d**cks, nah I even wish you well you empty-brained lug
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March 16, 2020 11:24 pm
Holy Jesus. Did anyone get this announcement from Nationwide Legal Services?
ORDER OF THE HEALTH OFFICER OF THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO DIRECTING ALL INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THE COUNTY TO SHELTER AT THEIR PLACE OF RESIDENCE EXCEPT THAT THEY MAY LEAVE TO PROVIDE OR RECEIVE CERTAIN ESSENTIAL SERVICES OR ENGAGE IN CERTAIN ESSENTIAL ACTIVITIES AND WORK FOR ESSENTIAL BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES; EXEMPTING INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS FROM THE SHELTER IN PLACE ORDER BUT URGING THEM TO FIND SHELTER AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO PROVIDE IT; DIRECTING ALL
BUSINESSES AND GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES TO CEASE NON-
ESSENTIAL OPERATIONS AT PHYSICAL LOCATIONS IN THE
COUNTY; PROHIBITING ALL NON-ESSENTIAL GATHERINGS OF
ANY NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS; AND ORDERING CESSATION OF
ALL NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL.
Effectively Martial Law quarantining everyone in their homes.
Essentially ordering all to gather essential essentials while leaving non-essential essentials behind in an essential effort to remain exceptionally essential. Quintessentially speaking, of course.
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March 16, 2020 11:44 pm
Bust out the punchbowl sponsored by Black and LoBello.
Does this apply to justice court cases as well?
Unclear. Entirely different court, not generally subject to direct control by the district court, but in the same building as the EJDC. As far as I am aware, there are no general orders for Las Vegas Township Justice Court. But as a practical matter, if the EJDC is barring entry, Justice Court I would think would necessarily be in the same boat.
I am wondering the same thing. I see justice court issued an order regarding traffic tickets and bench warrants for tickets due to this situation but nothing in regards to civil and criminal cases
Called Justice Court. Here is their response. "Your hearing for tomorrow is on. You are required to appear."
My trial for next week: "Your trial is on. You are required to appear."
11:25 a.m., so the Justice Court has taken the head-in-sand approach. That's good.
Think about it this way. Would you rather sit with counsel in District Court cases or the Great Masses that pack the galleries for a Justice Court proceeding ?
Who is in charge of the justice court? Jesus Christ.
1:08 p.m.: No one. Next question.
Las Vegas Township Justice Court finally speaketh: http://www.lasvegasjusticecourt.us/Admin%20Order%2020-03.pdf
Las Vegas Municipal Court, too: https://sawebfilesprod001.blob.core.windows.net/municourt/March%2016%20Municipal%20Court%20Coronavirus%20Order.pdf?sv=2017-04-17&sr=b&si=DNNFileManagerPolicy&sig=Uw%2BYB%2BEyFywyFVO7s4otazcNQKA70SM7bLcfL5NyJpw%3D
So all out of custody crim matters (minus prelims) are kicked 60 days. But prelims aren't listed as essential hearing/case type in that order. Does that mean preliminary hearings will be continued just not for 60 days as they are not listed under "essential hearings" in that order?
Way to go, Judge Baucum. Good leadership.
6:38, that is quite an ambiguity, isn't it? I would read "1. All in-custody proceedings for criminal matters" on page 2 to be inclusive of in-custody preliminary hearings. It's not clear what will become of out-of-custody preliminary hearings.
Justice Court deciding to conduct the Petri Dish that we call eviction hearings as "essential" is a farce. We care about disease but have no issue with a packed courtroom of virus-carriers sitting on top of one another.
Similar restrictions are in place for the U.S. District Court, District of Nevada:
https://www.nvd.uscourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/General-Order-2020-02-Courthouse-Entrance-Protocols.pdf
https://www.nvd.uscourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Temporary-General-Order-2020-03-re-Covid19.pdf
Are state offices open, when do they close?
I am the head of a small firm (5 lawyers or less). Aside from all of the existential worry, I see these big employers closing their doors and promising to pay staff for weeks of furlough. I don't think we have the money for 8 weeks of salaries and rent while staff sits home. Anyone else facing this right now? Are you going to lay people off? Attorneys can work from home and write briefs and do their telephonic appearances from their cell phones if they choose. But staff I have no idea how to have them work from home.
Our firm is a little larger, but I don't think we have the money for salaries and rent for even a much shorter time than eight weeks. Wow. This is terrible. Makes 2008 look like nothing.
Transition to web based document management. Depending on what your staff does, phone calls can be forwarded and staff can access these programs from anywhere.
Nevada just issued an order requiring cremation of COVID-19 deaths in the State of Nevada.
And Clark County just reported its first death.
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/nevada-reports-its-first-covid-19-death/
Can you attach the order?
If true, that's a very, very, VERY bad sign of what is expected to come.
Not sure if this was posted but there was a Review-Journal debate between the candidates for Department 4.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/clark-county/department-4-candidates-debate-access-to-justice-efficiency-of-courts-1977908/
Alverson Taylor will permit lawyers to work from home. Others must continue to go to work daily.
@ 12:45
What is A-T thinking? That policy will only create resentment.
Wtf, so what about support staff??? You probably hoard toilet paper you fuckers!!!
A few offices are doing the same thing. Mostly bc attorneys have the capability to work from home and still get everything done. Support staff in a lot of cases, can't.
I am working from home, but going in a few times a week to sign things.
My office is making most people including attorneys and support staff work from home.
Alverson Taylor is making the NRA firm, Garman and Turner look good right now.
I, for one, am pretty fucking tired of all this winning.
@ 1:28, what exactly are you winning?
Pretty sure that is a facetious reference to the POTUS saying that people are going to be winning so much that they are going to be sick of winning.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/08/18/trump-albany-rally-winning-sot.cnn
yay it's Trumps fault, that bastard went to Wuhan and ate a raw monkey or somethin', sum' bitch, Pelosi woulda cured it just with a wink of her eye, AOC sprouts magic farts that woulda kilt da hole dam thing
I have strong opinions about this but I am avoiding sharing them because right now blame will do no good. We need to focus on survival. When this is over we can work to hold the guilty accountable.
I will wade into the political waters: I am damn glad that we have Anthony Fauci on that stage. In crisis, I want someone at the helm who knows what he is going. I believe he knows what he is doing. I believe he is making people who do not listen to anyone ever listen to him and follow his advice.
At a certain point won't we all be exposed to this? If so, how does shutting everything down flatten the curve (prevent a spike in those affected that will overwhelm health care services)? Those needing hospitalization will be delayed, maybe, and then will spike when people need or feel safe to come out of the house. Perhaps this is needed to give time to prepare? I don't know. It's going to be tough financially though if everything comes to a halt.
The goal of "flattening the curve" is only partly to reduce the total number of infections. It's also to spread the number of infections over a longer period of time. If your hospital can handle 30 acute cases of pneumonia a week, there's a major difference between having 300 cases over 3 weeks versus 30 cases a week for 10 weeks. The latter allows the hospital to provide adequate care for all. Also, the latter gives those who recover in the first few weeks the immunity they need to slow down the infection rate in the general population.
To see this graphically, https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
I get it. But won't this just delay a spike in the future, given that most have mild symptoms and will spread the virus when the coast seems clear? Or will everyone have to be in lock down for a year?
I've got a curve you can flatten, Fauci. That little turd is Kate McKinnon's SNL gravy-train, and our economic grim reaper. Should have never handed the keys to the country over to the CDC…they don't know how to drive.
No. The goal is to avoid the spike or spread the spike so that it stays within manageable levels. Say we have 100 ICU beds. If the present trajectory is that we will have 50 cases next week and then 150 case and then 300 cases and then 1000 cases over the next 4 weeks, the system will be flooded by 1500 cases in 4 weeks and will be at 10 times capacity in 4 weeks.
If we can "flatten the curve" and spread 75 cases a week over 20 weeks, the system will spread it out over 20 weeks and never exceed capacity. Furthermore the developments make a treatment more likely 20 weeks from now than having it be necessary so much sooner.
Drastically reducing the number of encounters with infected persons or things will slow the rate of growth. Slowing the rate of growth is all about not overwhelming the healthcare system. If you successfully make as many people hunker down at home as possible and keep contacts controlled to people who have been successfully isolated from infection, the spread of the virus will slow. That will give those who do become infected the time to develop their own immunity to it, meaning those people won't be able to get the same strain again and won't (we hope) be capable of spreading it once they've developed immunity. And for those who develop severe symptoms, due to age or other underlying health conditions, they will get the intensive care they need.
A problem we're facing is with a totally botched testing regime. By the time you have the evidence of where the virus is and where it's spreading, evidence needed to impose draconian measures, the virus is already in the wild and spreading uncontrollably.
The economy is going to be so fucked
You're right with regard to our local economy since such a high percentage of it is concentrated in gaming and tourism. We are, unfortunately, very sensitive to economic downturns. Hotels won't get back those unsold rooms. Casinos won't recoup those unplaced NCAA basketball bets. But for regions where the economy is more diverse, the impact won't be as great. Manufacturing, agriculture, and tech are less sensitive to sharp economic moves. The things that aren't being bought now are still needed and will bought in the future. The aggregate national economy will suffer some; but it will be less severe than our local economy and will bounce back sooner.
When did Paradigm process servers go out if business? Any recommendations?
On a serious note, I might be an irritable, rascally opposing counsel who a lot of you would not like were you to know my name, but I really do wish you and your families well and sincerely hope we all make it out alive, I hope you are all OK, well except you Hooge, you can eat a bowl of d**cks, nah I even wish you well you empty-brained lug
Holy Jesus. Did anyone get this announcement from Nationwide Legal Services?
ORDER OF THE HEALTH OFFICER OF THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO DIRECTING ALL INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THE COUNTY TO SHELTER AT THEIR PLACE OF RESIDENCE EXCEPT THAT THEY MAY LEAVE TO PROVIDE OR RECEIVE CERTAIN ESSENTIAL SERVICES OR ENGAGE IN CERTAIN ESSENTIAL ACTIVITIES AND WORK FOR ESSENTIAL BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES; EXEMPTING INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS FROM THE SHELTER IN PLACE ORDER BUT URGING THEM TO FIND SHELTER AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO PROVIDE IT; DIRECTING ALL
BUSINESSES AND GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES TO CEASE NON-
ESSENTIAL OPERATIONS AT PHYSICAL LOCATIONS IN THE
COUNTY; PROHIBITING ALL NON-ESSENTIAL GATHERINGS OF
ANY NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS; AND ORDERING CESSATION OF
ALL NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL.
Effectively Martial Law quarantining everyone in their homes.
Until civilian courts are closed and the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus has been suspended, it's not martial law.
Officer Fauci, am I under arrest?
Yes.
For what?
Something bad happened and you might be a part of it.
A part of what?
Trust me.
Are you taking me to jail?
Yep.
For how long?
I don't know yet.
When will I find out?
When I tell you.
Essentially ordering all to gather essential essentials while leaving non-essential essentials behind in an essential effort to remain exceptionally essential. Quintessentially speaking, of course.
Bust out the punchbowl sponsored by Black and LoBello.
Lovely place, they are requiring us to come in the office.
Can I please be quarantined with Steve Jones, I want to stick my tongue in that ear.
Steve Jones? Do you mean John Jones at B&L? Or do you mean Steve Daddy Mack?
Both men are fine, but I want Daddy Mack. I like them older and tattoos. Hot!
I will pass on Steve Mack. My friend dated him, and he did not treat her well. Plus, I am not into Mr. Clean.
May I please be quarantined with Nadin Cutter please. Saw her sign running for Judge. A year or so should work.
Then you have never met her in person because yeeeeeeeesh.
Well. She is no "BK Hottie". But………
Don't be assholes. Nadin is a sweet and beautiful person doing the best she can in this world.