Getting Away With It

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  • Long suspected of murder, a Nevada woman confessed, but avoided prison. [Las Vegas Sun]
  • Whistleblower heard at 9th Circuit after state OSHA fails to investigate her claims. [TNI]
  • Disabled street artist settles with police for $150K. [RJ]
  • Feds say some proceeds from big L.A. Ponzi were spent in Vegas. [New To Las Vegas]
  • What else is happening out there today?
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May 10, 2021 6:54 pm

Get off the blog and get back to work.

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May 11, 2021 12:34 am
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I have a billing code called "BLOG." Just kidding, heh heh!

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May 10, 2021 7:49 pm

Why can't we stop electing judges in this state? Our populace is so uneducated on the judiciary…the latest round of judges are just a joke. There has to be a better way.

Ben Nadig
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Ben Nadig
May 10, 2021 9:03 pm
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Can we quit bitching about the judges? You don't like something, then run, otherwise STFU. I ran, I got crushed, but at least I tried. There are definitely judges in that building that I would prefer not to appear in front of, but by and large, they put the work in (there's always an exception). I love the people on here who think that judges don't possess the intellectual capacity to handle their matters. Every time I read those posts i think, 1. You're an insurance defense attorney (cause they're bitter at the world), or 2. they ruled against you. Guess what, you're not always right, your wife or husband prolly tells you that on the daily, accept the ruling, assess what you could've done better, and come back prepared the next time. You're not going to win every time, learn to listen to where you're deficient and fix it, otherwise its a you problem. The biggest problem with every attorney, including myself, is learning to listen and be self critical; judges all have a pattern. Figure it out and tailor your argument accordingly, doing the same thing every time knowing what somebody's tendencies are is just fucktarded.

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May 10, 2021 9:25 pm
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Ben "Merle Haggard" Nadig,

I'm not 12:49 PM, but I dislike elected judges. I could run, but that wouldn't solve the underlying systemic/institution problem. I could only run for one department, which would leave many unqualified judges on the bench. And frankly, I'm not sure that I'd be a great judge. I don't have to run for judge, or even be capable of being an effective judge, to recognize and voice my opinion that an elected judiciary does not serve the public well.

Your posts on this subject, using your own name, really come off as disingenuous brown-nosing, as though you hope that some of the incumbent judges will read your comments and bestow some kind of favor upon you in gratitude.

Ben Nadig
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Ben Nadig
May 10, 2021 9:40 pm
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How is it disingenuous? These people know me and I know them, in Crim the facts dictate the outcome much more than the attorney , albeit there is some play in the in between. The good attorneys live in the in between, the mediocre and the bad do not. Whining about judges does nothing but give you the excuse to pass along to your client, its not an accurate indicator of how you did. That's my whole problem with attorney complaints, there is zero assessment of how you did as an attorney and there is a complete abdication to the judges' rulings as an indictment of what should have happened on the case. If you know what you're doing then you know how a case will turn out, if you don't then its the judges' fault that you did poorly and that is BS. Assess your case and accept the results, its a small percentage that goes against you if you know your case is strong. In all the time I have posted with my name there hasn't been one judge that has acknowledged it, not that it matters to me. I will admit that family law judges are outside of my area of expertise, cause that whole area of law is filled with nonsense in my opinion. But when it comes to civil and criminal matters, you know what you are getting and you should know how to effectively litigate. Judges are simply roadblocks to an eventual outcome, if you fail then you should be looking harder at the merits of your case.

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Ben Nadig
May 10, 2021 9:42 pm
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I DO appreciate the Merle Haggard reference though

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May 10, 2021 9:50 pm
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Ben is not brown nosing. He is correct. People need to stop whining. We have many good judges.

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May 10, 2021 9:50 pm
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12:49 here…I think it's kinda douchey to call someone a brown noser for posting under their name. We all talk shit anonymously. At least Ben signs his name to his shit talk.

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May 10, 2021 10:14 pm
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Even though I am not defending Nevada judges, either as a group nor defending individual judges, and concede we have our share of not very good ones, 2:03 emphasizes a couple critical points we must bear in mind.

1. Venting about judges is all well and good, but advocating for the elimination of judicial elections demonstrates a real lack of practical insight, and no real understanding of the process and its history.

Over the last three decades, on no fewer than three occasions there has been a Nevada ballot question geared toward eliminating contested judicial elections.

Those ballot questions failed convincingly. It may seem counterintuitive, but people want to retain the right to vote for positions they know nothing about and have zero interest in.

So, yes, as 2:03 points out, if a judge is intolerably bad, the only real practical way to be proactive is to run against them, or support someone else who is willing to do so.

2. 2:03 also alludes to another serious problem. Often, when attorneys insist a judge is really bad, that may not necessarily be the case. It may simply be an isolated, anecdotal situation wherein the judge did not rule in the attorney's favor, and the attorney may be so invested in the case in terms of sweat equity that the attorney can not really think objectively. In other words, whenever an attorney bitches about a judge's ruling, that of course does not, in and of itself, establish that the judge really blew the call.

Many attorneys simply believe they are always right, and that any judge who disagrees is clueless, totally unprepared, misguided, or, worse yet, in the tank for the opposing side

So to post about how an attorney lost a motion because the horrible judge totally ignored the facts and the law(without accurately telling us what the facts and law were)is a common, but totally unhelpful, situation.

As for 2:25's criticism that 2:03, by using his actual name, is attempting to suck up to specific judges, the content of his post does not suggest that is the case. He simply, in a most general sense,pointed out that the elimination of judicial elections is not practical, and he refuses to have the knee-jerk reaction that judges are horrible simply because they may not ruled in his favor 100% of the time.

Again, I don't want to come across as defending judges, but I share 2:03's annoyance with this constant form of "logic" we are treated to, when an attorney wants to turn the judicial selection system upside down because the attorney lost a motion.

2:03 did not single out any individual judges for praise, but just offered general observations.

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May 10, 2021 10:37 pm
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12:49 here again…I am aware of the previous ballot questions and I'm aware that Nevada's ignorant voters want to keep voting in elections they know nothing about. Thank you for assuming all kinds of things about me. I've clerked in other states that don't have judicial elections and the worst judge there was as good as the best judges here…in my experience. Granted, my practice area isn't super expansive and there are lots of judges I haven't been in front of. I was mainly just venting. Last couple weeks I've had several interactions w some new judges and they've just annoyed me…and it's not because they've ruled against me. In some cases, they've ruled in my favor.

I would like to see some better candidates run. I also know myself well enough to know that I am not that candidate.

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May 10, 2021 11:01 pm
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3:14 here. As for 3:37 who is also 12:49, you sarcastically thank me for assuming all kids of things about you.

However, my comments were specifically addressed to 2:25, and 2:25 specifically states "I am not 12:49."

So, perhaps you need to pay a little closer attention when you post. If I am to be chastized for assuming things about 12:49, that must mean that 12:49 and 2:25 are one and the same(despite your denial of such),as my comments were only made to 2:25.

Now that I have caused all this confusion…

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May 10, 2021 11:08 pm
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Hey smarty pants…I'm the only one who actually commented about getting rid of elections so if you aimed that comment at someone else then you're the one who needs to read a little closer. 2:25 merely stated they didn't like elected judges. Get back to work FBU.

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May 11, 2021 12:04 am
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4:08–why are you still arguing to get rid of judicial elections since it was explained in detail they are clearly here to stay(multiple failed ballot questions designed to eliminate contested judicial elections), and you acknowledged, or at least claimed, that you were well aware of the history involved?

So, if advocacy groups that raised, and spent, hundreds of thousands of dollars, to eliminate contested judicial elections, failed to change the system at all, you may wish to re-think your strategy.

And your strategy seems to be that even though others have spent that kind of money and commitment and ultimately failed, that you can change the entire judicial election system just by posting your anonymous opinion on some blog?

So, perhaps you are the one being a smarty pants.

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May 11, 2021 12:21 am
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Strategy? Venting on an anonymous blog is now a "strategy"? See you next Tuesday.

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May 11, 2021 4:38 pm
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Actully, all of you, who weighed in on this thread, are, to varying degrees, smarty pants know-it-alls

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May 10, 2021 8:17 pm

All but 3 or 4 RJC judges are awful. Some are pure evil. I see incumbent, they get voted out. People need to wake the frig up. Some of these judged male Halvetson look good.

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May 10, 2021 8:28 pm
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3 or 4? Come on. Hardy, Williams, Weiss, Denton, Gonzalez, Bluth, David Jones, Tierra Jones are some of the older ones that are fine.

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May 10, 2021 10:40 pm
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1:28. Wow, you must be really young if you refer to Tierra Jones as an "older" judge.

If you meant "older" in terms of age, I think she is only like 39.

If you meant "older" in terms of time served, she was only appointed three or four years ago.

And Bluth I think was an even more recent appointment–like within the last two years.

As for 1:17(e.g."Some of these judged male Halvetson looks good.") you remind me of my grammar, spelling and diction when I am inebriated.

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May 10, 2021 10:43 pm
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3:40. I meant incumbent aka not elected this last cycle.

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May 11, 2021 1:10 am
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Hardy and Tierra Jones as some the finest on the Bench? You cannot be serious. The anti-incumbent bias led to Trevor Atkin being replaced by a hot disaster.

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Anonymous
May 11, 2021 3:05 am
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340,typos are allowed on a blog. Also, autocorrect gets us, but keep at it grammar police.

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May 11, 2021 3:20 pm
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Atkin and Bare were not removed b/c of any "anti incumbent" bias they were removed b/c they were men. Same could be said for Scotti and Kephart but they did have some legitimate other issues, I think the only man to win a contested race on the civil/criminal bench was Villani. 18-1 for women. Some I think will be good but some are simply not qualified or were far less qualified than the other candidates.

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May 11, 2021 3:37 pm
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@8:20 I totally agree with you. It's ridiculous too. I do family law and the majority of female judges that got elected in family court are a joke. They either lack the appropriate judicial temperament or they are incompetent…or both. Granted there a couple exceptions, but for the most part it's a mess. If you perempt one, you could end up in a worse situation.

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May 11, 2021 4:22 pm
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To those crying that certain judges lost reelection because they were men, you totally miss the point. A batch of women won because they were backed by a far-left group whose goal was to elect liberals to the bench. The fact they were all women is a distraction from the fact they're all democrats.

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May 11, 2021 4:25 pm
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That's false. There are females on the bench who just got elected in this big sweep of female judges who are republican. Good try though. Go back to your mom's basement, Chad.

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May 11, 2021 4:43 pm
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9:22, yes and no.

Contrary to what you insist, gender is not totally irrelevant, and in judicial races, where people generally know little or nothing about the candidates, being a female candidate with a male opponent, can be an advantage.

Gender seems to be worth a few extra points in many judicial races.

But I am with you as to your point that in this last cycle, those who were recruited and supported by the organization you reference, did tend to benefit greatly by such association.

There can be no doubt about it.

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Anonymous
May 11, 2021 6:15 pm
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Jones and Hardy are two of the worst judges I've ever appeared in front of.

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May 11, 2021 6:34 pm
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Tierra Jones is a raging witch! She is needlessly emotional and lacks mature judicial demeanor. I may have to wait until 2026, but the other guy will get my vote in that Dept.

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May 10, 2021 8:18 pm

Make

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May 10, 2021 10:32 pm

I'm turning over a new leaf today as I have been too harsh in my recent posts. To get started I would like to offer some advice to Mr. Ross, the Constable in Laughlin. With only perhaps 4-5 more years of experience, you could become an assistant security guard at the Galleria Mall. I knew I could be nice.

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May 11, 2021 3:40 pm
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@ 3:32, have you asked yourself why "Mr. Ross" takes up so much space in your head? Because it definitely has nothing to do with him and everything to do with something sad going on inside yourself. Whatever it is that's eating you, maybe let it go? Life will be better. (No, I'm not this Mr. Ross; I don't know him. I just genuinely wonder about the mental health of commenters who come onto this blog and attack others by name. Like… why?)

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May 10, 2021 10:40 pm

The problem with the judges is that they are not the best and brightest. If you were the best and brightest you would not run for the bench. It does not pay enough and you can never please everyone. When you make the right decision the person who lost still thinks you got it wrong. Being popular as a judge probably means the other side thinks you are biased against them. Many of our judges struggle to make hard decisions. But to criticize them is somewhat hypocritical since they are hard decisions.

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May 10, 2021 10:45 pm
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Hypocritical? They are elected to make hard decisions. If the decisions are easy, the cases settle. Their sole purpose is to make the hard decisions. Hypocritical was not the right word.

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May 10, 2021 11:16 pm

Called the Nevada DOI twice, no answer during work hours. You cannot even leave a message.

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May 10, 2021 11:34 pm
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Send a thank you note to our "sizzle lack" governor. He is in charge of a state which can't run or fix DMV, DETR, DOI and ???

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May 11, 2021 6:29 pm
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It is time for paid public servants to return to the workplace and open their doors to offer service to the public. This includes county and state employees. If they cannot offer service to the public then they must be cut from the payroll. Every other industry went through this, these public servants should not be paid a salary and benefits and earn pension sitting at home and doing nothing to earn it!