18 Years Later

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  • It’s been 18 years since that fateful September morning. Check out the memorial here. Local memorials are here. Feel free to share your memories below. Has time changed your perspective on that day?
  • About 12% of Nevada prisoners are in solitary confinement–twice the national average. [Las Vegas Sun]
  • Snack-filled packages for inmates present unique hurdles. [TNI]
  • California lawmakers vote to undo NCAA amateurism. [NY TImes]
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September 11, 2019 3:18 pm

I turned 16 years old on 9/11/01. bittersweet day for sure

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September 11, 2019 3:48 pm

I was in the 7th grade in Connecticut on 9/11/01, right on the Long Island Sound. Could see the smoke from CT. By the time I got home from school, my father had been scrambled to active duty and was gone. As an attorney, any time I see a terrified mother during a family or immigration proceeding, I think of my own. It's that same fear of unknowing.

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September 11, 2019 4:00 pm

Born, raised and attended undergrad in upstate NY. Four classmates from my undergrad college were killed on 9/11; many friends, family have injured lost loved ones on that day. It's the only day of the year I still feel much more like a New Yorker than a Las Vegas and we love Las Vegas. Hard to believe 18 years ago today. Not a good day at all.

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September 11, 2019 5:35 pm
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I have a similar experience 9:00 AM. Born, raised and attended undergrad (Hamilton College) in upstate NY. I lost classmates too. I went to work on 9/11 at my firm in the US Bank Building and wondered if a plane was going to fly into the Stratosphere.

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September 11, 2019 4:01 pm

There were a bunch of us in the middle of a big construction defect trial. I think Denton was the judge. A lot of us showed up for court and were sent home.

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September 11, 2019 4:37 pm

close friend's mom was on the second plane that crashed into the tower. the mom, along with grandmother, were on their way back to the westcoast from seeing off my friend to her first year of college. truly devastating. the mom was wel liked in our community and was heavily involved in our school and incredibly charitable.

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September 11, 2019 5:03 pm

I was asleep when it happened because I was living in California at the time. When a roommate told me there had been a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, I initially shrugged it off because I assumed it was like the bush league car bomb from 1993(?).

The more that time passes, I think historians, centuries from now, will look back at 9/11 as a major turning point in American history, and not in a good way. It's probably too soon to know for sure, but I suspect it will be seen as the end of the post-war world order and the associated U.S. hegemony.

Domestically, our nation is much less healthy than it was on September 10, 2001. We have very few shared values or experiences anymore. Our military fights are carried almost exclusively by the children of the poor and working class. We all live in subnations with their divergent narratives and intellectual bubbles. Some of the division was probably inevitable with fragmentation of media. But I can't help shake the feeling that our country took several serious wrong turns after 9/11. So while 9/11 itself is sad, so is the decline of the United States in the subsequent years. I do not believe we can regain the inheritance the Greatest Generation left us, which we have foolishly squandered.

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September 11, 2019 5:16 pm
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September 11, 2019 5:49 pm

Thank you for the valuable contribution to the blog!

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September 11, 2019 5:58 pm

Bill Noall is a stage 9 doucheblaster and so is the NRA. I hope Noall gets his ass kicked in for the world to see and the NRA implodes. And this is coming from a gun owner.

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September 11, 2019 6:17 pm
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what is the stage scale? Also, where do you find yourself on the scale?

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September 11, 2019 6:41 pm
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Bill No all is Bybee's cousin. Seriously, Bybee needs to disqualify himself.

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September 11, 2019 6:45 pm
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Just like representing banks, you could not pay me enough money to represent the NRA. Good for you, Noall.

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September 11, 2019 6:47 pm
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10:58 here. I'm not sure exactly how the scale works, but I have no doubt I'm on the spectrum.

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September 11, 2019 6:48 pm
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"send not to know for whom the douche blasts; it blasts for thee."

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September 11, 2019 6:52 pm
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this ^ is awesome.

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September 11, 2019 11:16 pm
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Bill Noall is at Garmen Turner? What a demotion.

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September 11, 2019 6:18 pm

I LOVE the unintentional irony: "The gun lobby wants the court 'to instruct elected officials that freedom of speech means you cannot silence or punish those with whom you disagree.'" Like filing an aggressive lawsuit against a bunch of anti-gun liberal elected officials, right? You can't make this stuff up!

This reminds me of when my 3 year old wants me to intervene with my 5 year old to tell the 5 year old that the three year old is not a "stinky poo poo head." "Dad, tell Jane that she can't call me a stinky poo poo head!"

What a bunch of snowflakes at the NRA.

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September 11, 2019 7:20 pm

Are all of you lawyers? You don't sound like lawyers. More like freshman high school students have been told something is "bad"; who suffer from lack of factual basis or logic and base opinions on and emotion. Cute puppies.

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September 11, 2019 7:27 pm
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Poopy head

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September 11, 2019 7:57 pm
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The National Rifle Association (NRA), an organization originally established in 1871 to train hunters and marksmen on gun use and safety, has transformed into one of the most effective political lobbies in modern American history. The group advocates for gun rights, resisting any encroachment on what it deems to be an inalienable right to unhindered, unregulated gun ownership. To advance its mission, the NRA deploys a disinformation campaign reliant on fearmongering and the systematic discreditation of opposition voices in order to secure its position as a powerful lobbyist for the gun industry. The NRA has masterfully constructed a narrative based on gun rights propaganda, evoking images of a society devoid of rule of law and under constant threat of attack from an unidentified but ever-present enemy.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/guns-crime/reports/2019/04/24/468951/guns-lies-fear/

Enough is enough NRA. Civilians don't need assault weapons, just like they don't need rocket launchers, land mines, or nuclear weapons. And I refuse to believe it is a bad thing to make laws to make sure only competent, law-abiding adult citizens can legally get their hands on non-assault rifles. We do a very similar thing with driver's licenses now.

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September 12, 2019 12:01 am
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@12:57
Exactly, loose general feel good phrasing, lacking factual substance. Can you define an "assault weapon"? How is it different from any semi automatic pistol or rifle (other than the cosmetics like plastic stocks with rails). How would you ban a gun with the vague but inflammatory description which includes the word "assault". Military fully automatic weapons are already illegal, and none of this type have been used. The reference to landmines etc is pure emotional hyperbole.
Everyone, including the NRA, wants to stop killing. But get some structure, fact and maybe a little education.

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September 12, 2019 2:48 pm
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My first comment on this thread. I get frustrated when the government does nothing because I think there are some things we can all (at least 90% of Americans) agree on.

How about this: ban on magazines over a certain size. I would hope that everyone can agree that 100-round barrels are not necessary for civilian use? If we can get there, then the only question for debate is how large is to large? 10? 20? 50?

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September 12, 2019 4:26 pm
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7:48,

Your last question is exactly the reason why the NRA opposes what you would consider "reasonable restrictions." You won't stop. You say you just want to ban the absurd things, but then move straight on to trying to figure out how to ban the mundane.

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September 11, 2019 8:56 pm

I knew Erika would have her paws into this too.

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September 11, 2019 9:44 pm
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1:56- The use of "paws" is offensive and mysoginistic. Are you scared old white man? Is that why you're reduced to weak insults?

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September 12, 2019 2:14 pm
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Erika Pike Turner is fashion. She is the best attorney in town, in her head. Kudos to you for your firm landing the NRA.

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September 12, 2019 7:30 pm
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I would not be bragging about having the NRA as a client. I would surrender my license if I had to defend them.

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September 13, 2019 12:53 am
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She has loans and rent to pay for her warehouse on the freeway. NRA pays. Forget the mass shootings. Congrats, Erika.

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September 11, 2019 11:05 pm

2:44 stop being misogynistic- erika is the tits!!

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September 12, 2019 2:35 pm

Is Greg Garman a gamer?

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September 12, 2019 4:21 pm

You people. I'm gone from the jurisdiction for one day and come back to this nonsense. I did spend last night looking at some video of 9-11, and it hits like a punch to the gut. I finished with George W. Bush's throwing out the first pitch at a Yankees game a few days later. I forgot how moving it was to have baseball back in New York, and all of us pulling together. 30 for 30 has a great short on it, if you want an escape from hating each other.