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  • Former President Trump pleaded not guilty to 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.  Feel free to civilly discuss the legal merits/aspects of the case. [NBC News]
  • Carson City Judge James Wilson sides with Governor Lombardo on conservation agency appointment. [Nevada Current]
  • Fraudster’s gambling losses at Wynn lead to subpoena request. [RJ]
  • A readers want to know if there are any objective standards they can rely on when negotiating their salary–i.e. are there any good numbers to use or does everyone just do the best they can?
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April 4, 2023 8:07 pm

I'll hold off on forming an opinion until after they unseal the Hunter Biden indictment.

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April 4, 2023 8:52 pm
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Sorry, should read: LOL. Even if they did indict HUNTER BIDEN, the cult would just latch on to some other false equivalence and victimhood narrative.

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April 6, 2023 8:20 pm
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what the hell are you even trying to say

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April 4, 2023 8:28 pm

I know there is prosecutorial discretion but, when this has never been charged before, one has to wonder about the motivations – except they don't as Bragg indicated while running for office he would pursue Trump. The most basic of all legal concepts is treating like people a like – and here that was not done. IMHO, Trump is a deeply flawed person but I do not wish to see a cycle of all former Presidents hounded by the new people in power. Thank you.

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April 4, 2023 8:53 pm
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I find Trump to be an utterly loathsome person and incompetent leader. However, the gravity of charging a former President is so enormous that it really ought to only occur in extraordinary circumstances. These charges should never have been brought. The Georgia stuff, on the other hand, seems very fair to pursue. Not just fair, but necessary to preserve the integrity of elections and to prevent future candidates from thinking they can get away with phone calls like that.

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April 4, 2023 11:51 pm
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How can you not believe in karma after all the times he called for the arrest of his political opponents? I can't count all the times I heard him whipping his minions into a frenzy. "Lock her up! Lock her up!" He invited it. He begged for it. He set the standard.

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April 5, 2023 12:04 am
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4:51 I beg the guardians of logic by all that is consistent and reasoned that you are not serious. Please tell me you are not a lawyer but someone who smoked too much, dropped their game controller in their friend's basement, and somehow stumbled into our site. He would have set the standard had he been in power and actually charged Ms. Clinton through his own justice department and/or cronies. So different I can only be reminded of the Adam Sandler movie … " we are all dumber for having heard you … etc" Not being in power and asking for is different than being in power and doing. In the words of your apparent leader – C'Mon man.

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April 5, 2023 12:54 am
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C’mon 5:04! Trump’s indictment is a delicious karmic sundae his outrage is the luscious cherry on top.

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April 5, 2023 3:36 pm
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I want to discuss this from a different karmic perspective as a Republican and tie it into the Beasley discussion. You want to be immune from prosecution but let Michael Cohen burn for your campaign finance sins? You want to stab John Bolton in the back and smirkily watch while people threaten to assassinate your Vice President? Of course people are going to roll on you and cheer you riding that bomb all the way into the ground.
I don't need to even compare it to what he threatened against his political enemies; I compare it to what he despotically allowed to happen to his supposed friends.

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April 5, 2023 4:40 pm
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Everyone's indignance at this indictment and arraignment is what is amusing to me. Mark my words. This too will go the way of Russia Collusion, the Steele dossier and his tax returns.

Desperate moves by desperate people who are terrified of the Teflon Don.

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April 5, 2023 5:24 pm
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April 5, 2023 5:27 pm
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And the last reliable Rasmussen poll was when?

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April 4, 2023 8:31 pm

The indictment is a sha ROD hahaha

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April 5, 2023 12:16 am

I would think an associate negotiating salary is entitled to understand their direct cost (salary and other direct comp, and benefits) along with indirect cost (pro rata portion of rent, back office costs, etc.) and then can figure out billable hours x hourly rate x realization and have a sense of their profitability and how that compares with others. To the extent it's out of whack, the associate should ask for a portion of that overage.

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April 5, 2023 2:32 am
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Except that logic doesn't typically apply for an attorney's first few years in practice, where they they may lose money for the firm.

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April 5, 2023 2:49 pm
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Yeah right. I did the numbers my first few years and I brought in way more than I was paid, many times over. Could my boss have handled it alone? Yes, but that would’ve interfered with their 8-10 vacations per year and their 4-hour work days. So, you want that life? Pony up and pay your associate(s) what they deserve.

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April 5, 2023 3:39 pm
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As a managing partner of a firm, I understand the assertions but have to say that I have had this discussion with many associates who make similar arguments and had to show them the numbers. Sure you billed 22 hours for that MSJ, but we as firm only could bill 6 hours for the motion. So what productivity and profitability looks like to an associate and what it looks like to a firm administrator are often different things.

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April 5, 2023 4:59 pm
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So @5:16 pm here again . . . I think the most successful discussions have at least had data as a shared starting point. If a firm doesn't want to share data with you, that's a problem. If they do, you may have a better understanding of your profitability to the firm (which is what @8:39 am is getting at). Either way, this approach gets away from "I deserve more/we can't afford more than this" discussion and the even less helpful "I can make $X over there".

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April 5, 2023 5:19 pm
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I made a similar demand for data at the last firm I worked for (circa 2001) and made my case for a raise and origination percentage. They effectively told me it wasn't happening. Within a month, I was gone and "invited" my clients to utilize the services of my newly formed firm. Several chose to accept, some didn't, but 22 years later, I have never once regretted it.

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April 5, 2023 12:45 am

I just want to publicly express my gratitude for being blessed to have once experienced a time when one could have different opinions in law school, and even openly cavort with SCOTUS justices. Ah, those were the days! One opinion; one Volk; one leash.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11938167/Columbia-law-students-attack-colleges-Federalist-Society-photo-Brett-Kavanaugh.html

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April 6, 2023 8:31 pm
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Wait, what happened? I missed the part where Colombia prohibited that 🙁 Something awful must have happened to the fed soc students though for this to be worth your precious time… what is the daily mail not telling us?? Surely there must be another story about the injustice of … your classmotes openly disagreeing with you and criticizing your position!!?!?!!!?????

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April 5, 2023 4:05 pm
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April 5, 2023 5:25 pm

This is what happens when you replace intelligence with nationalism.

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April 7, 2023 8:19 pm

I read the indictment and it was a nothingburger. Then I listened to this attorney sum it with lots of context and I was blown away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp3U6JSgqY4