Her drug dealing boyfriend opened fire. What do you expect? Don't want to die in gun fire? Don't date thugs. Boom. Take your irrational hate elsewhere.

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10:37–interesting that people decide on what the disputed "facts" are based on which side of the political spectrum thy are on. More left leaning contingencies, including Black Lives Matter, will assume the worst factual scenario against the police(that the police entered unannounced and started firing) while more so-called Law And Order, and right-leaning contingencies, will assume the factual scenario most beneficial to their position(e.g,. the police announced, but were fired upon, and had to defend themselves, etc.).

But I prefer not to create or twist facts based on what political/social conclusion I wish to reach, so let's try to take an objective look at the facts.

The police initially had a "No Knock Warrant" but it was subsequently changed to a "Knock On Arrival Warrant".

They claim that the did announce, yet were fired upon and thus returned fire. But 11 witnesses insist they did not announce, and therefore when Ken Walker(Ms. Taylor's boyfriend) began firing he thought that the home was being invaded, so he feared for the lives of him and the other occupants.

Now problem appear to be that we need to just look beyond what the cops say, and what the occupants of the house say, as both versions may be inherently unreliable, or at least heavily tainted, for obvious reasons.

Now my understanding(but admittedly the reporting has been a little sketchy and somewhat inconsistent on this issue so far) is that as far as any objective, outside witnesses(who are neither the cops nor the occupants) that the police DID NOT announce.

And if that's true, Mr. Walker's perception(that a very loud, enraged breaking and entering by what sounded to be multiple people screaming threats and demands)constitutes an invasion by people trying to do real harm) is NOT unreasonable on his part.

So, if objective witnesses do in fact support that the police did not announce, then their actions led very directly, and very foreseeably, to the death of an occupant of the home, that being Ms. Taylor.

So, not wanting to judge these matters based on my political leanings, but attempting, to the best extent reasonably possible, to judge the matter on the reported facts, when we peel away at this it would seem to be a highly problematic shoot, to say the least.

Again, if they did not announce, and it was therefore not unreasonable for Mr. Walker to take the actions he did, then I agree with 10:37.

Of course, the reported "facts" can largely change over time and/or remain largely disputed. But when they do, the best source remains to always look to any independent witness with no real dog in the fight.

12:22–I'm the earlier 12:22(meaning you responded in less than a minute. So, well done).

I believe we need to start with the existing facts at the time, surrounding the actual incident.

If it turns out that Walker was precluded from legally owning a gun and/or that he feared it was rival gang members or criminals invading to visit vengeance upon him, those issues are largely distractions to poison the well.

Remember, a police shooting incident, by its very definition, seldom involves totally innocent people walking down the street, minding their own business. Instead, a police shoot is almost invariably based on some angry confrontation or aggressive or dramatic interaction.

So, if a shoot is bad, the fact that victims are usually not necessarily wonderful, saintly people(as they are often understandably portrayed by surviving family members) really does not matter.

Proper protocol and procedure needs to be followed, and improper, serious over-reactions(that result in maiming or death) can and should generate law enforcement culpability

12:41,very true.

But it gets even worse because the distracting issues people raise appear not even to be true.

Walker was a licensed firearm carrier, and no drugs or anything illegal was found on the scene.

I think 12:14 hits on a really important point. Why wouldn't people be totally inflamed over the press portrayal of any one of the BLM police shootings? If you take press clippings at face value, all these cops are cold blooded killers. I think the narrative is unfortunate because grand juries see a different and probably fuller set of facts, and their decision therefore doesn't seem to square with media portrayals. I think this can cause the public to lose faith in the justice system when, e.g., Freddy Gray cops, Breonna Taylor cops, Michael Brown cops, etc. aren't strapped to an electric chair, but are instead let free. Unfortunately, totally objective journalism doesn't sell or generate clicks, so we're stuck trying to square contradictory portrayals in HuffPo, CNN, Fox, and OAN.

Actually bodycams don't tell the whole story, either. It is a small snippet of what occurred at that moment, as seen in the narrow view of the camera lens. High level use of force situations are complex. 4:46 correctly notes that the grand jury gets the full set of facts. My opinion of what occurred does not matter. The grand jury's opinion should, and does, matter.

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