Key Insurance is in Liquidation in Kansas as of March 2025. Policy holders who paid premiums in advance are supposed to receive automatic refunds. Has anyone heard of a policy holder receiving a refund yet?
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April 3, 2025 12:00 pm
When you get a District Court Order/Judgment that is patently ridiculous, how often do you attempt a reconsideration or motion to alter/amend as opposed to just taking the ridiculous decision up on appeal straight away (assume its a final judgment)? I have 2 in the last 3 weeks (one state and one federal) where the decisions are so ridiculous and contrary to statute that part of me thinks if the judges really just looked at how contrary to law their Orders were that they would change their minds and get it right and then part of me thinks that if they did not get it right the first time they are only going to double down on a reconsideration and it would be a waste of time and money.
Most motions for reconsideration are a complete waste of time as the standard is rather exacting. If the decisions are ripe for appeal, go that route. You’re just dragging it out by doing anything less. This is exceptionally true in Fed court.
Occasionally the motion for reconsideration will go somewhere, especially if you have reason to believe the judge wasn’t really paying attention like they should have been, but yeah, generally a huge waste of time. Which is often their express purpose, to just waste time and resources.
Like Jim Mahan once told me during a hearing on a motion for reconsideration: “Counsel, you’re asking Mahan to reverse Mahan. That’s why God invented San Francisco.”
When i was in government and did not need to necessarily worry about the approval from carrier on these pleadings which rarely found relief… i almost stopped writing them because to some extent it gave the judge an opportunity to correct some of the more problematic aspects of the order and it would kneecap the appeal.
So we would often make the appeal worse and still not get the sought relief.
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April 3, 2025 12:59 pm
Seizing Seven Tigers – my new death metal band name!
I voted for Trump. I’m not sure what ‘economic state of emergency’ Trump cited to in order to put the tariffs in place, but we sure do have one now! How the republicans are walking lock step behind him potentially off of an economic cliff, boggles my mind…
It’s not mind boggling it’s a cult of cowardice. Everyone keeps thinking, “I’ll just ride this out and not stand up and say something.” These people are pathetic.
That’s right. And according to Mitt Romney (and others) some are scared for the personal safety of themselves and their family. Romney hired private security at seven figure expense. These are compromised, spineless people who will never, ever say that the emperor has no clothes.
3:01: if you are referring to the post about Romney, with those reasoning skills, I sure hope you aren’t a lawyer. The takeaway is that Romney is wealthy and had the money to do that. What are the people who don’t have 7 figures, or 6 or 5, to spend on personal security supposed to do.
What’s on display on the blog today is a cult of hate anything Trump related.
Can you honestly say that US goods sold in another country should be subject to tariffs, but that country’s goods sold in the US should avoid tariffs? Is it bad to hope that manufacturing will come back to the US?
Yes, some pain is to be expected, but hopefully it will be short term.
This isn’t about economic growth. It’s about Trump creating leverage to force the leaders of private industry to genuflect to him. He is doing the same thing to universities and academia right now.
2:08 here. The problem with this line of thinking is that let’s say ‘manufacturing’ comes back in full force; do you know how long it would take to rebuild/retool the plants to make said product? 1-3 years. Also, since the said product is made in America now how much more would we have to pay for said product? I thought we were trying to combat inflation…
This is the same rhetoric from Trump’s first term. He promised that tariffs would bring Apple back to America. Guess what –it never happened. This line of hypothetical thinking is also consistently debunked by economists. Go to google scholar. Look up some peer-reviewed articles. You’ll find that none of them support this flawed line of logic.
The next problem is that America does not have enough resources to support this isolation-theory. We have to buy things from other countries to survive. We need oil from Canada (which, is where we get the majority of our oil). So, your solution is to move a car manufacturer back to America, but then make oil so expensive that the American people can’t afford to use a car anyway?
As of 2018, America was entirely dependent on importing 18 mineral commodities: Arsenic, asbestos, cesium, fluorspar, gallium, natural graphite, indium, manganese, natural sheet mica, nepheline syenite, niobium, rare earths, rubidium, scandium, strontium, tantalum, thorium, and vanadium.
These are necessary to production and manufacturing. For example, if you want something that is valued for its heat resistance, you want natural sheet mica. Do you like LED lights? Good, me too. That uses gallium –a required U.S. import. But, now, we have to pay 74% tariffs (or whatever it is that day), to import natural sheet mica or gallium just to support those manufacturing companies that we moved back to the states.
Basically, the “let’s move these manufacturers back,” argument is completely flawed. Logically and historically, tariffs do not work. They are a tax on the consumers. They do not move manufacturing back, and if they did, that still would not reduce prices to the consumer. Absolute trash argument.
Key Insurance is in Liquidation in Kansas as of March 2025. Policy holders who paid premiums in advance are supposed to receive automatic refunds. Has anyone heard of a policy holder receiving a refund yet?
When you get a District Court Order/Judgment that is patently ridiculous, how often do you attempt a reconsideration or motion to alter/amend as opposed to just taking the ridiculous decision up on appeal straight away (assume its a final judgment)? I have 2 in the last 3 weeks (one state and one federal) where the decisions are so ridiculous and contrary to statute that part of me thinks if the judges really just looked at how contrary to law their Orders were that they would change their minds and get it right and then part of me thinks that if they did not get it right the first time they are only going to double down on a reconsideration and it would be a waste of time and money.
Interested to hear your thought processes.
Most motions for reconsideration are a complete waste of time as the standard is rather exacting. If the decisions are ripe for appeal, go that route. You’re just dragging it out by doing anything less. This is exceptionally true in Fed court.
Occasionally the motion for reconsideration will go somewhere, especially if you have reason to believe the judge wasn’t really paying attention like they should have been, but yeah, generally a huge waste of time. Which is often their express purpose, to just waste time and resources.
Like Jim Mahan once told me during a hearing on a motion for reconsideration: “Counsel, you’re asking Mahan to reverse Mahan. That’s why God invented San Francisco.”
When i was in government and did not need to necessarily worry about the approval from carrier on these pleadings which rarely found relief… i almost stopped writing them because to some extent it gave the judge an opportunity to correct some of the more problematic aspects of the order and it would kneecap the appeal.
So we would often make the appeal worse and still not get the sought relief.
Seizing Seven Tigers – my new death metal band name!
Lemmy would be proud!
What was your old death metal band called?
OP here: Corpus Delicti – get ready for your ears to bleed!
Good to see that even thought Kamala didn’t win, my 401k is now unburdened by what has been gained since the election.
I voted for Trump. I’m not sure what ‘economic state of emergency’ Trump cited to in order to put the tariffs in place, but we sure do have one now! How the republicans are walking lock step behind him potentially off of an economic cliff, boggles my mind…
It’s not mind boggling it’s a cult of cowardice. Everyone keeps thinking, “I’ll just ride this out and not stand up and say something.” These people are pathetic.
They’re all scared that if they say anything, Elon will give $100M to a primary challenger.
That’s right. And according to Mitt Romney (and others) some are scared for the personal safety of themselves and their family. Romney hired private security at seven figure expense. These are compromised, spineless people who will never, ever say that the emperor has no clothes.
rich guy spends lots of money, lets feel bad for him
3:01: if you are referring to the post about Romney, with those reasoning skills, I sure hope you aren’t a lawyer. The takeaway is that Romney is wealthy and had the money to do that. What are the people who don’t have 7 figures, or 6 or 5, to spend on personal security supposed to do.
If that’s what you got out of the comment, I question your ability to competently read at an 8th grade level.
What’s on display on the blog today is a cult of hate anything Trump related.
Can you honestly say that US goods sold in another country should be subject to tariffs, but that country’s goods sold in the US should avoid tariffs? Is it bad to hope that manufacturing will come back to the US?
Yes, some pain is to be expected, but hopefully it will be short term.
I see what you did there. You’re being ironic by referring to non-MAGA as the cult. Good one!!
This isn’t about economic growth. It’s about Trump creating leverage to force the leaders of private industry to genuflect to him. He is doing the same thing to universities and academia right now.
2:08 here. The problem with this line of thinking is that let’s say ‘manufacturing’ comes back in full force; do you know how long it would take to rebuild/retool the plants to make said product? 1-3 years. Also, since the said product is made in America now how much more would we have to pay for said product? I thought we were trying to combat inflation…
That isn’t how it happened last time. But hey, what is history if you cant “mis-remember” it?
This is the same rhetoric from Trump’s first term. He promised that tariffs would bring Apple back to America. Guess what –it never happened. This line of hypothetical thinking is also consistently debunked by economists. Go to google scholar. Look up some peer-reviewed articles. You’ll find that none of them support this flawed line of logic.
The next problem is that America does not have enough resources to support this isolation-theory. We have to buy things from other countries to survive. We need oil from Canada (which, is where we get the majority of our oil). So, your solution is to move a car manufacturer back to America, but then make oil so expensive that the American people can’t afford to use a car anyway?
As of 2018, America was entirely dependent on importing 18 mineral commodities: Arsenic, asbestos, cesium, fluorspar, gallium, natural graphite, indium, manganese, natural sheet mica, nepheline syenite, niobium, rare earths, rubidium, scandium, strontium, tantalum, thorium, and vanadium.
These are necessary to production and manufacturing. For example, if you want something that is valued for its heat resistance, you want natural sheet mica. Do you like LED lights? Good, me too. That uses gallium –a required U.S. import. But, now, we have to pay 74% tariffs (or whatever it is that day), to import natural sheet mica or gallium just to support those manufacturing companies that we moved back to the states.
Basically, the “let’s move these manufacturers back,” argument is completely flawed. Logically and historically, tariffs do not work. They are a tax on the consumers. They do not move manufacturing back, and if they did, that still would not reduce prices to the consumer. Absolute trash argument.
You should hope in one hand and sh!t in the other then let us know which one fills up first.
Kind of like y’all did for four years of Biden. Give me the 2019 economy back. Ill wait no problem.
Really? Boggles your mind? Where have you been the last ten years?
How might the tariffs affect settlement amounts going forward?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOHbyuanbY
Absolutely priceless.