Does SBN do anything well? I cannot think of a single thing. The entire organization is a bloated, ham-handed embarassment. It disgusts me to pay dues to an organization for which I have zero respect.
The CLE is meant to be well meaning. But it points out that SBN employees who decided on this generally lack common sense. I have lived a few years in the profession and don’t need a CLE to tell me to be careful in conflicted situations.
The employees and leaders of the Bar are masterful at trying to look busy and concerned and involved while accomplishing little to nothing. They aren’t fooling anyone; but they really think they are.
Why not a CLE whereby the Bar can tell us what it intends to do to start policing these circumstances in which attorneys threaten other attorneys because there is a very obvious example that the bar continually ignores and which Family Law practictitioners continuously point out.
Has anyone called the cops? Surely if there are such frequent threats of violence, the police would have gotten involved by now! BTW I’ve been practicing in family court for well over a decade and the only people I’ve ever been threatened by are opposing litigants. This comment isn’t credible. It’s likely either the party being sued for violating the confidentiality clause they contracted themselves into or it’s a disgruntled former employee.
I am 25 years in this year and the only threat I have ever received were from opposing pro se litigants in F.Ct. as well. And even then its maybe only 3-4 in that time. Barely had an uncivil word (personally) with Opposing Counsel.
Stop creating / perpetuating / manufacturing problems where there are none.
These statements are false. Yes there are threats made by attorneys on attorneys in cases. As seen in the Prince v. Houston case, there are threats made by attorneys who end up being litigants in Family Court cases (yes the RPCs govern even in those cases). Have witnessed one attorney threaten to throw another attorney out of the window at a court reporting agency. Know of an attorney who threatened to bust his way into a law firm’s office and kick the ass of the staff in that firm. We remember the attorney who brandished a gun in a deposition a few years ago (OBC did discipline that one). This notion that there are not attorneys who fashion themselves pugilists and not advocates is absolutely incorrect.
Try reading the statements again, with a little critical thinking skill and you will see that no absolutes were stated. Simply personal experiences described after decades in. No one herein stated that there not attorneys who threaten violence. Of course there are. But, again you exaggerate, at the very least.
This is NOT a pervasive problem in our community. So, knock off the “sky is falling” until YOU have been threatened personally more than once. THAT is a pervasive problem.
You have ballpark 12,000 currently licensed attorneys in the state (with some 8,500 active IN Nevada and not somewhere else).
You cite 4 instances of violence or threatened violence (two of which are unverified hearsay, at best).
You cannot make a valid point with the use of such hyperbole and the lack of actual evidence against the experience of decades. Is diminishes your credibility and your effectiveness as an advocate.
Your rebuttal is pure fallacy. You ignore (or best discount) the countless examples of people who have experienced this because you assert that you personally have not experienced this phenomenon. You fall into the logical fallacy that your anecdotal experience should be extrapolated over the entire community (interestingly the same allegation that you make against the other posters). That you have not personally experienced it is admirable but not representative of the experiences of attorneys in this community.
I practice Family Law almost exclusively. In the last 14 years: 1) had the window of my building shot out; 2) had my building set on fire; 3) had my tires slashed; 4) had my building set on fire again.
1, 2, and 3 were all by the same pro se litigant, were witnessed, police called and Metro did nothing! Number 4… well no one saw anything and it was no where near a hearing with the other person. Likely someone or something new.
It is not widespread but it happens, so being careful is wise. More important, Metro is useless!
@10:58 do you have evidence that says otherwise? If so, have you turned it over to metro? If not, stfu you vulture. Those kids and those families are in hell. No one needs your gross comments.
I suspect people will always have their doubts. Let’s just hope the kids, the Pages, the Princes, and even the Houstons (yes, all of them) are somehow able to find peace. There’s been enough sadness.
Man I think what consenting adults want to do on their own time is up to them. This is not a close case This guy was a frat party lawsuit waiting to happen.
As an old guy I think the world was better when the number one way of meeting a spouse was at work. We’d get to know each other. Been married 26 years.
FOIST
Does SBN do anything well? I cannot think of a single thing. The entire organization is a bloated, ham-handed embarassment. It disgusts me to pay dues to an organization for which I have zero respect.
Pobrecito
The CLE is meant to be well meaning. But it points out that SBN employees who decided on this generally lack common sense. I have lived a few years in the profession and don’t need a CLE to tell me to be careful in conflicted situations.
The employees and leaders of the Bar are masterful at trying to look busy and concerned and involved while accomplishing little to nothing. They aren’t fooling anyone; but they really think they are.
Why not a CLE whereby the Bar can tell us what it intends to do to start policing these circumstances in which attorneys threaten other attorneys because there is a very obvious example that the bar continually ignores and which Family Law practictitioners continuously point out.
Has anyone called the cops? Surely if there are such frequent threats of violence, the police would have gotten involved by now! BTW I’ve been practicing in family court for well over a decade and the only people I’ve ever been threatened by are opposing litigants. This comment isn’t credible. It’s likely either the party being sued for violating the confidentiality clause they contracted themselves into or it’s a disgruntled former employee.
I am 25 years in this year and the only threat I have ever received were from opposing pro se litigants in F.Ct. as well. And even then its maybe only 3-4 in that time. Barely had an uncivil word (personally) with Opposing Counsel.
Stop creating / perpetuating / manufacturing problems where there are none.
These statements are false. Yes there are threats made by attorneys on attorneys in cases. As seen in the Prince v. Houston case, there are threats made by attorneys who end up being litigants in Family Court cases (yes the RPCs govern even in those cases). Have witnessed one attorney threaten to throw another attorney out of the window at a court reporting agency. Know of an attorney who threatened to bust his way into a law firm’s office and kick the ass of the staff in that firm. We remember the attorney who brandished a gun in a deposition a few years ago (OBC did discipline that one). This notion that there are not attorneys who fashion themselves pugilists and not advocates is absolutely incorrect.
You are overstating the case. Period.
Try reading the statements again, with a little critical thinking skill and you will see that no absolutes were stated. Simply personal experiences described after decades in. No one herein stated that there not attorneys who threaten violence. Of course there are. But, again you exaggerate, at the very least.
This is NOT a pervasive problem in our community. So, knock off the “sky is falling” until YOU have been threatened personally more than once. THAT is a pervasive problem.
You have ballpark 12,000 currently licensed attorneys in the state (with some 8,500 active IN Nevada and not somewhere else).
You cite 4 instances of violence or threatened violence (two of which are unverified hearsay, at best).
You cannot make a valid point with the use of such hyperbole and the lack of actual evidence against the experience of decades. Is diminishes your credibility and your effectiveness as an advocate.
Your rebuttal is pure fallacy. You ignore (or best discount) the countless examples of people who have experienced this because you assert that you personally have not experienced this phenomenon. You fall into the logical fallacy that your anecdotal experience should be extrapolated over the entire community (interestingly the same allegation that you make against the other posters). That you have not personally experienced it is admirable but not representative of the experiences of attorneys in this community.
Yet, you resort to hyperbole in an attempt to bolster your argument. Which falls on its face when you utilize absolutes.
You literally state “countless” when I counted the examples that you have given and published it here.
I haven’t fallen into any logical fallacies by simply poking holes in your argument that is filled with exaggeration and bluster. Calm down, sister.
I practice Family Law almost exclusively. In the last 14 years: 1) had the window of my building shot out; 2) had my building set on fire; 3) had my tires slashed; 4) had my building set on fire again.
1, 2, and 3 were all by the same pro se litigant, were witnessed, police called and Metro did nothing! Number 4… well no one saw anything and it was no where near a hearing with the other person. Likely someone or something new.
It is not widespread but it happens, so being careful is wise. More important, Metro is useless!
As to the assaults on your building, take it as a compliment. As Reggie Jackson famously said, “They don’t boo nobodies!”
Maybe even incorporate this into your marketing. “Family law litigator so effective I’ve driven the opposing party to arson!”
They don’t burn down the law offices of nobody attorneys!
As to Metro, yes, they are useless. Metro exists for Metro, not the public. You’re on your own in this town!
One of Metro’s favorite copouts: “this is a civil matter.”
@10:11 I second your comment
The same state bar that didn’t disbar an attorney who waved a gun around at a deposition.
He was just a proud patriot with animated hands exercising his God-given 2nd Amendment rights!
What are you, some kind of liberal spaghetti noodle?
97 year old judge from the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit loses lawsuit to be reinstated after allegations of cognitive impairment.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-judge-97-loses-lawsuit-seeking-reinstatement-2024-07-09/
Judge Mahan?
This judge was unable to recognize her own impairment. She shares that problem with another government official.
Dylan Houston not suspected of being an accomplice.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/son-of-summerlin-law-office-shooter-not-suspect-in-killings-police-say-3087157/?utm_campaign=widget&utm_medium=section_row&utm_source=homepage&utm_term=Son%20of%20Summerlin%20law%20office%20shooter%20not%20suspect%20in%20killings%2C%20police%20say
If only that . . . . . . were that.
@10:58 do you have evidence that says otherwise? If so, have you turned it over to metro? If not, stfu you vulture. Those kids and those families are in hell. No one needs your gross comments.
Well, you myopic fuck, 1058 here. Try reading my comment again. My point was simply that this is far from over.
Words mean things.
During COVID, I watched a lot of True Crime. Based on my aforementioned research, Dylan Houston should not have custody of his two children.
Excellent, reliable source. Not! Stop being a dunce.
Find a sense of humor, or try shedding your tears in private.
. . . . . agreed. In the best interests of the children.
I suspect people will always have their doubts. Let’s just hope the kids, the Pages, the Princes, and even the Houstons (yes, all of them) are somehow able to find peace. There’s been enough sadness.
Hug your loved ones, folks.
More than enough.
Not Vegas, but an awful story that led to the resignation of a federal judge in Alaska: https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/ce9/2024/22-90121%20News%20Release%20&%20Order%20and%20Certification.pdf
Man I think what consenting adults want to do on their own time is up to them. This is not a close case This guy was a frat party lawsuit waiting to happen.
As an old guy I think the world was better when the number one way of meeting a spouse was at work. We’d get to know each other. Been married 26 years.
Did you know Judge Michael Fondi?
Divorced wife, and married his law clerk.
I don’t have an RJ sub, can someone please tell me what they say the most popular specialty plate is?
The Las Vegas commemorative plate. Also, there are ways and ways and WAYS around the RJ’s piss-poor blocking.
I used to use 12 foot ladder but it stopped working. Now I just don’t bother. Thanks for the response!
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