It is sad they are gone. They were both patriots in the real sense of the word, not cheapened way demagogues use the word now. There are very few leaders left in the Republican Party who have a similar commitment to integrity. I remember watching General Powell on Meet the Press with Tim Russert when some aid tried to cut the audio because of what he was saying. Both Tim Russert and General Powell completely flipped out, but in a very dignified and righteous way. You don't see that anymore. John McCain, Tim Russert and General Powell are the kind of people our democracy needs. None of them have living equivalents and that is really scary.
Disagree. They were beholden to the military industrial complex and were complicit in all the lies Il Duce Bush used to lure us into completely immoral and unnecessary wars. I imagine them in the afterlife drowning in the blood of their innocent victims.
I always had a lot of respect for Powell, but lost a good deal deal of it when he joined the Bush Administration, and then allowed himself to be pressured by Cheney and Rumsfeld(who reportedly openly belittled and mocked him to his face at meetings for being too dovish, and not hawkish enough, even though he was a career military hero)into adopting the false Weapons OF Mass Destruction mantra that Powell knew was bullshit, and that Iraq possessed nothing of that sort.
Agree with 11:33. Powell allowed the Bush Administration to capitalize on his political credit to ram through a baseless invasion that accomplished little more than enriching defense contractors.
He was a good man and I believe he had sincere regrets over what happened in the Bush years. I'm not sure how much of it was him being misled by the Cheney/Rumsfeld factions in the white house and how much of it was him being naïve, but Iraq will forever mar his legacy.
12:14-He knew. 11:33 is right. When he presented the info. it was clear he lacked confidence in its reliability, could not answer reasonable questions about the source and viability of the information, and just in general was seriously lacking in the confidence that he almost always projected when presenting material to the Senate, media, and general public.
He would also highly qualify certain statements, and show a real lack of conviction, much to the chagrin of the Bush Administration.
More fundamentally, he has come fairly close to admitting(and has strongly implied) not that he was duped, but that he knowingly went along with the charade, to his lasting shame and deep regret.
But that being a major faux pas, it does not erase a brilliant, honorable career–but does mar it a bit.
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October 18, 2021 5:27 pm
Sig Rogich and his lawyer wife were awarded half-million dollars because their daughter (who has dyslexia) did not get special treatment by a failing school district. Nice. Oh by the way, she is now attending the University of Utah, despite CCSD not providing adequate education.
@10:35– We are lucky enough to be a family of some means in both time and money. Being a family of means in time has resulted in us deciding to leave our kids in CCSD because they are each in what we consider pretty decent schools. The time element means that we are blessed to be able to put the time in with our kids to work with them and to closely monitor their education. Our kids seem to be testing out at fairly successful levels and to be maturing reasonably. We made the decision that the $16,000+ for Meadows per child could be better invested in the long term financial stability for our children. We do not challenge those who choose to pay the monies to place their children in private school if they believe that to be in their best interests.
I agree that for most families of means, tuition is not worth it. Better to save that money for college (where again, price and value don't necessariy correlate). That does not mean, however, that you leave your kids in CCSD. The schools where we live are OK. But they are inferior to the charter schools, so that's where our kids are. The expectations and rigor at the charter schools are night and day compared to CCSD. The parents are engaged. The kids treat each other better. Though it's not the end all be all, the test scores are noticeably higher. CCSD is never, ever going to break up. Ever. There are too many people in too much power who have a personal financial stake in the status quo. The best thing we can do is put our kids in charter schools.
11:26 – Pretty sweeping statements with nothing to back it up. I think charter schools can be good, but they can also be terrible and pits for financial abuse. Our friends put their kid in charter school (a succesful one with multiple campuses). By 2nd grade he couldn't read, as he was getting ignored. He was getting bullied and the teacher wasn't fully accredited, etc. They pulled him and put him in the local public school and was caught up by the end of the year. So tell me again that all public schools are inferior.
Another charter school I am aware of provides no accountability for its spending, because the sole "expense" is a management fee paid to a Utah company. Thus while the Charter school is "transparent", it hides behind this transfer of responsibility so that the actual line items are hidden.
Charter schools have a few benefits 1) they don't have to take every student, and can choose not to take those requiring special needs or IEPs etc 2) the parents who elect to put them in charter schools are more likely on average to be involved with the school and their child's education.
Who cares who sued CCSD? If it takes a family with means to hold the district accountable, so be it. This ruling will help families all over Clark County who don't have the financial means or clout to hold the district accountable. And it'll mean kids that are struggling can get the resources they need.
Charter schools and private schools are not the answer. 11:49 touched on some very real issues with charter schools. We need to fully fund public education and get rid of 90% of the people working at the ed shed. Give their salaries to the teachers.
What does "fully fund" public education mean? Do we set a per pupil funding level and then everything is fixed? The NYSD has a per pupil funding level of $28,000 per year. How is that school district doing? Certainly better than CCSD, but is it just funding level's that fix our school systems? I doubt it.
The Utah-based management company you are referring to no longer has any association with the charter school you are referring to. There was a whole Nevada federal court lawsuit about it when the management company got the boot, and the school changed its name.
2:17, 11:49 here. My point was not to impugn any particular private or charter school. That is why I did not call them out by name. But your reference to the lawsuit undermines my point. There is a lack of transparency and oversight. I think it might have gone to a lawsuit only because one of the leaders there is an attorney, but otherwise the problem would have gone remedied.
I know people who are involved with charter schools (including the one you mentioned), and think that they are intelligent, and have good intentions. But I think structurally it is problematic. If you want to have private schools, great! But if you take public money you have to play according to the same rules.
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October 18, 2021 6:31 pm
I did not attend the U, but I'm pretty sure it's not open enrollment and hasn't been for quite some time. I think Utah State, Weber State, Utah Valley, Southern Utah and Dixie are all open enrollment though. I could be wrong though.
11:03, a nostalgic BYU alum, was just trying to "soak" in the humor.
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October 18, 2021 7:31 pm
Although Minnesota does not track pass rates by race or ethnicity, the American Bar Association said that in 2020, 88 percent of white candidates passed the exam on their first try, compared with 80 percent of Asians, 78 percent of Native Americans, 76 percent of Hispanics and 66 percent of Blacks.
At his installation last week as dean and president of Mitchell Hamline School of Law, Anthony Niedwiecki said the bar exam was “created by white people to exclude others from the profession.”
“The bar exam is racist,” Niedwiecki declared. “It was built to keep certain people out of the profession, and we should get rid of it. It doesn’t test the skills needed to be a successful lawyer, and there are other ways to license lawyers that are more reliable and equitable.”
Just read the dean's professional bio at their website. It appears that he has been working his entire legal career as a lecturer, instructor and professor, with no real life legal experience. Of course he is going to make statements like this. Blame "white people" for all of societies problems and ills. That way when you come up short, you have someone to blame and not yourself. I
This guy is a grifter who works for diploma mills. Disgusting.
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October 18, 2021 9:19 pm
11:49 is right. Parties change. The Republican party now is a nihilist cult of Donald Trump.
By the current standard, Powell, McCain, both Bushes, Reagan, Goldwater, Eisenhower, …..Lincoln, all must be considered “Republicans” in mane only. What a waste
Interesting interview with Robert Gates last night. Hawkish Republican. Still a Republican but disavows the virus that has torn apart the party faster than Powell's breakthough COVID case ever could. There is only one effective way to destroy a cult of personality such has gripped my GOP.
I'm still aghast at how the GOP descended so rapidly into a cult of personality, especially a personality as buffoonish as Trump. There is a house a couple miles from mine where the owner still has a 6+ picture of Trump on his gable. It's like a shrine. It's creepy.
The GOP is supposed to be the party of law and personal responsibility (and at least some individual thought). Now it really is like a cult. The cardinal sin is to is to question the leader. It's insane.
I for one would like to have a meaningful ballast against some of the nuttier progressives. But now that the GOP has left the planet, what shall I do?
Three worlds. In 2020, "around a third of registered voters in the U.S. (34%) identify as independents, while 33% identify as Democrats and 29% identify as Republicans" PewResearch
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October 19, 2021 2:27 am
Who's getting their covid boosters? For those who have gotten it, how were the side effects?
Powell and McCain reunited!
It is sad they are gone. They were both patriots in the real sense of the word, not cheapened way demagogues use the word now. There are very few leaders left in the Republican Party who have a similar commitment to integrity. I remember watching General Powell on Meet the Press with Tim Russert when some aid tried to cut the audio because of what he was saying. Both Tim Russert and General Powell completely flipped out, but in a very dignified and righteous way. You don't see that anymore. John McCain, Tim Russert and General Powell are the kind of people our democracy needs. None of them have living equivalents and that is really scary.
Disagree. They were beholden to the military industrial complex and were complicit in all the lies Il Duce Bush used to lure us into completely immoral and unnecessary wars. I imagine them in the afterlife drowning in the blood of their innocent victims.
I always had a lot of respect for Powell, but lost a good deal deal of it when he joined the Bush Administration, and then allowed himself to be pressured by Cheney and Rumsfeld(who reportedly openly belittled and mocked him to his face at meetings for being too dovish, and not hawkish enough, even though he was a career military hero)into adopting the false Weapons OF Mass Destruction mantra that Powell knew was bullshit, and that Iraq possessed nothing of that sort.
Powell and McCain both helped fuel and define what it means to be a RINO
Agree with 11:33. Powell allowed the Bush Administration to capitalize on his political credit to ram through a baseless invasion that accomplished little more than enriching defense contractors.
He was a good man and I believe he had sincere regrets over what happened in the Bush years. I'm not sure how much of it was him being misled by the Cheney/Rumsfeld factions in the white house and how much of it was him being naïve, but Iraq will forever mar his legacy.
@11:11
11:11 is a troll who shows up to spew negativity. Never has anything postive to say about anything.
@12:23 so what is your point? This is a liberal blog and when inside of it, he probably can only summon negative things to write.
12:14-He knew. 11:33 is right. When he presented the info. it was clear he lacked confidence in its reliability, could not answer reasonable questions about the source and viability of the information, and just in general was seriously lacking in the confidence that he almost always projected when presenting material to the Senate, media, and general public.
He would also highly qualify certain statements, and show a real lack of conviction, much to the chagrin of the Bush Administration.
More fundamentally, he has come fairly close to admitting(and has strongly implied) not that he was duped, but that he knowingly went along with the charade, to his lasting shame and deep regret.
But that being a major faux pas, it does not erase a brilliant, honorable career–but does mar it a bit.
Sig Rogich and his lawyer wife were awarded half-million dollars because their daughter (who has dyslexia) did not get special treatment by a failing school district. Nice. Oh by the way, she is now attending the University of Utah, despite CCSD not providing adequate education.
To be fair, they had to pay for her to go to private school to get there because of the district's failings.
10:32 AM,
That may all be true, but I think the point here is that most families lack the means to (1) go to private school and (2) make CCSD pay for it.
I don't understand why families with means (both in time and money) leave their kids in CCSD.
I am pretty sure the U. of Utah is still an open enrollment school. No big deal getting in there. Can you breathe? OK, you are enrolled.
@10:35– We are lucky enough to be a family of some means in both time and money. Being a family of means in time has resulted in us deciding to leave our kids in CCSD because they are each in what we consider pretty decent schools. The time element means that we are blessed to be able to put the time in with our kids to work with them and to closely monitor their education. Our kids seem to be testing out at fairly successful levels and to be maturing reasonably. We made the decision that the $16,000+ for Meadows per child could be better invested in the long term financial stability for our children. We do not challenge those who choose to pay the monies to place their children in private school if they believe that to be in their best interests.
10:35 AM here, 11:18 AM.
I agree that for most families of means, tuition is not worth it. Better to save that money for college (where again, price and value don't necessariy correlate). That does not mean, however, that you leave your kids in CCSD. The schools where we live are OK. But they are inferior to the charter schools, so that's where our kids are. The expectations and rigor at the charter schools are night and day compared to CCSD. The parents are engaged. The kids treat each other better. Though it's not the end all be all, the test scores are noticeably higher. CCSD is never, ever going to break up. Ever. There are too many people in too much power who have a personal financial stake in the status quo. The best thing we can do is put our kids in charter schools.
I don't think U of U is an open enrollment university. It appears they require a 3.66 GPA to even be considered for admission.
11:26 – Pretty sweeping statements with nothing to back it up. I think charter schools can be good, but they can also be terrible and pits for financial abuse. Our friends put their kid in charter school (a succesful one with multiple campuses). By 2nd grade he couldn't read, as he was getting ignored. He was getting bullied and the teacher wasn't fully accredited, etc. They pulled him and put him in the local public school and was caught up by the end of the year. So tell me again that all public schools are inferior.
Another charter school I am aware of provides no accountability for its spending, because the sole "expense" is a management fee paid to a Utah company. Thus while the Charter school is "transparent", it hides behind this transfer of responsibility so that the actual line items are hidden.
Charter schools have a few benefits 1) they don't have to take every student, and can choose not to take those requiring special needs or IEPs etc 2) the parents who elect to put them in charter schools are more likely on average to be involved with the school and their child's education.
Who cares who sued CCSD? If it takes a family with means to hold the district accountable, so be it. This ruling will help families all over Clark County who don't have the financial means or clout to hold the district accountable. And it'll mean kids that are struggling can get the resources they need.
Charter schools and private schools are not the answer. 11:49 touched on some very real issues with charter schools. We need to fully fund public education and get rid of 90% of the people working at the ed shed. Give their salaries to the teachers.
What does "fully fund" public education mean? Do we set a per pupil funding level and then everything is fixed? The NYSD has a per pupil funding level of $28,000 per year. How is that school district doing? Certainly better than CCSD, but is it just funding level's that fix our school systems? I doubt it.
11:49,
The Utah-based management company you are referring to no longer has any association with the charter school you are referring to. There was a whole Nevada federal court lawsuit about it when the management company got the boot, and the school changed its name.
2:17, 11:49 here. My point was not to impugn any particular private or charter school. That is why I did not call them out by name. But your reference to the lawsuit undermines my point. There is a lack of transparency and oversight. I think it might have gone to a lawsuit only because one of the leaders there is an attorney, but otherwise the problem would have gone remedied.
I know people who are involved with charter schools (including the one you mentioned), and think that they are intelligent, and have good intentions. But I think structurally it is problematic. If you want to have private schools, great! But if you take public money you have to play according to the same rules.
I did not attend the U, but I'm pretty sure it's not open enrollment and hasn't been for quite some time. I think Utah State, Weber State, Utah Valley, Southern Utah and Dixie are all open enrollment though. I could be wrong though.
I imagine 11:03 is a BYU grad trying to be funny
11:03, a nostalgic BYU alum, was just trying to "soak" in the humor.
Although Minnesota does not track pass rates by race or ethnicity, the American Bar Association said that in 2020, 88 percent of white candidates passed the exam on their first try, compared with 80 percent of Asians, 78 percent of Native Americans, 76 percent of Hispanics and 66 percent of Blacks.
At his installation last week as dean and president of Mitchell Hamline School of Law, Anthony Niedwiecki said the bar exam was “created by white people to exclude others from the profession.”
“The bar exam is racist,” Niedwiecki declared. “It was built to keep certain people out of the profession, and we should get rid of it. It doesn’t test the skills needed to be a successful lawyer, and there are other ways to license lawyers that are more reliable and equitable.”
Just read the dean's professional bio at their website. It appears that he has been working his entire legal career as a lecturer, instructor and professor, with no real life legal experience. Of course he is going to make statements like this. Blame "white people" for all of societies problems and ills. That way when you come up short, you have someone to blame and not yourself. I
This guy is a grifter who works for diploma mills. Disgusting.
11:49 is right. Parties change. The Republican party now is a nihilist cult of Donald Trump.
By the current standard, Powell, McCain, both Bushes, Reagan, Goldwater, Eisenhower, …..Lincoln, all must be considered “Republicans” in mane only. What a waste
Interesting interview with Robert Gates last night. Hawkish Republican. Still a Republican but disavows the virus that has torn apart the party faster than Powell's breakthough COVID case ever could. There is only one effective way to destroy a cult of personality such has gripped my GOP.
I'm still aghast at how the GOP descended so rapidly into a cult of personality, especially a personality as buffoonish as Trump. There is a house a couple miles from mine where the owner still has a 6+ picture of Trump on his gable. It's like a shrine. It's creepy.
The GOP is supposed to be the party of law and personal responsibility (and at least some individual thought). Now it really is like a cult. The cardinal sin is to is to question the leader. It's insane.
I for one would like to have a meaningful ballast against some of the nuttier progressives. But now that the GOP has left the planet, what shall I do?
Agreed. I'm pretty liberal, but even I can see that the country benefits from more than one party. The GOP truly has gone bonkers.
We definitely live in two different worlds.
Three worlds. In 2020, "around a third of registered voters in the U.S. (34%) identify as independents, while 33% identify as Democrats and 29% identify as Republicans" PewResearch
Who's getting their covid boosters? For those who have gotten it, how were the side effects?
If folks answer, I'm curious if you got a booster from a different manufacturer (e.g., J&J first, then Pfizer)
I got the booster over the weekend (Pfizer). My arm hurt and I was tired on Sunday but that was about it.
I got the pfizer booster, literally no side effects.