- Quickdraw McLaw
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As a public service (and to give our readers a chance to skew the results in favor of the real legal elite), we wish to inform you that tomorrow is the last day to participate in Nevada Business Magazine‘s annual survey to find Nevada’s Legal Elite. This is the crème de la crème of Nevada’s attorneys and has nothing to do with how much advertising you buy…or does it? You can view the 2012 elite here.
If you are a licensed Nevada attorney, click here to take the survey.
After taking this survey for the first time as a ten year attorney I see how every new associate for the big firms make this list.
You can nominate up to five people in your own firm. I expect to see a new batch of "elite" first year attorneys again this year.
Agree with 2:53p
No government or in-house attorneys made the list last year? Yeah, then this can't be the elite.
If your an new associate at a firm with 20 or more attorneys and you do not make the list of legal "elite", find a new job becuase everyone you work with hates you.
you're not your… I better correct myself before someone shits on me
The Legal Elite is the most ridiculous list in the history of all states, not just Nevada. Anyone who gets their name in there does so by cowardly asking friends and co-workers to stuff the ballot box.
No good lawyer would want to be associated with this list.
5:03 is simply bitter that his friends won't nominate him.
A partner in my firm did no lobbying and made the list, but I think that's the exception.
Ridiculous methodology aside, this stuff is pure marketing gold. Clients don't understand law school honors or even AV ratings. But 'legal elite' is something they get, or at least they think they get it.
I am a younger attorney. You can bet that in the next couple of years I will shamelessly ask others to vote for me. Then I'll get it and promote the hell out of it to clients/prospective clients/other professionals.
Don't hate the player, hate the game. If you think it's ridiculous, you can either (1) get over it, (2) use it to your advantage or (3) change it. Other than that, STFU.
1:52
That was truly an elite post.
I get 1:52pm's point, and I agree to an extent. If the system is flawed, why not take advantage. However, we all know people that take networking to the next level and everyone thinks those people are douche bags. When a guy fails the bar and gets fired from several jobs, he is not "elite," and when that guy makes the legal elite list, every Nevada attorney rolls their eyes every time they see the attorney's name.
I used to laugh at these rating systems–couldn't understand the attorneys who went after the ratings, figured they must be desperate, etc… Until I had to find me a competent surgeon in Las Vegas. Every surgeon's office that I went into, to meet and gauge the person who was going to be putting me under and cutting me open (possibly killing me), I found myself scanning the walls of diplomas and certificates like I had never done before, trying to read the tea leaves to determine which one had the best chance of NOT killing me. I didn't laugh at or mock the framed magazine articles then. Instead, I grasped at them like they were life-vests. That, my friends, was when I realized the truth about these rating systems: we may laugh at and mock them, but these ratings mean a lot to potential clients. And that is all that matters.
3:59 here. I want to note that I don't actually know any person that meets the description I gave. That was an example because I didn't want to use any person's actual bio.
The Legal Elite list might fool the general public and maybe result in a client or two, but the respect you get by being listed in a real list like Best Lawyers in America or, to a lesser extent, Super Lawyers, makes a difference if you want referrals from lawyers.
I personally wouldn't refer a client to someone who puts "Nevada's Legal Elite on his/her bio. How embarrassing for that person to have to solicit votes to try to make a lame list.
Go ahead and fool the public, but don't expect any credibility from real attorneys.
Legal Elite, Best Lawyers, Super Lawyers, Martindale Ratings, etc., are all largely marketing smoke and mirrors, not that I that I dismiss the value of such things as a good capitalist running dog should. The real question (assuming you toil in a commercial firm) is how much did you originate last year and how profitable was it? Show me the money.
Legal Elite, Best Lawyers, Super Lawyers, Martindale Ratings, etc., are all largely marketing smoke and mirrors, not that I that I dismiss the value of such things as a good capitalist running dog should. The real question (assuming you toil in a commercial firm) is how much did you originate last year and how profitable was it? Show me the money.
Jordan- The money comes in large part from marketing yourself. There is no doubt that having these credentials creates the branding that creates referral business. I think the point some above are making, in which I agree, is that the Legal Elite isn't a real rating service and is just about who stuffs the ballot box the most. I agree with those people.
Shark Pimp,
That's the question YOU, as a legal recruiter asks. The value of these rankings isn't in impressing the Shark Pimp. It's in impressing prospective clients. I am mind blown that so many supposedly intelligent people brush this stuff off w/o understanding it.
I agree with the comments above – that the Legal Elite is a joke.
Who is the top employment discrimination lawyer locally? That person or persons should appear on that list…
4th-year lawyer here. I see what is being said above, but I'm trying to get myself listed because the public doesn't know the difference, so what the heck?
I will honestky say I agree with the above that the Legal Elie is a "joke", but until I get in anything else, it's good enough for me.
How is the Legal Elite any different from the Oscars or Grammys or Emmys or Tonys. More specifically, how is it different from the golden globes, Oscars, Palm d'or, DGA, WGA, etc. Every industry has awards and honors that are voted on by a group of individuals that may or may not have valid opinions. I think if you get selected as Legal Elite, you should own it and not be ashamed.
Eglet was not on the 2012 list, enough said.
Latest news is that Tony Liker will run for D.A.
Latest news is that Tony Liker is apparently soliciting on the Internet for random strangers to pay legal fees to him.
http://www.tonylikerlegaldefense.com/
@4:44,
Old news, brother. Tony Liker dumped that client because she couldn't pay.
Wow. That website is just……wow.
I feel like there must be some kind of ethics violation in there, even if I don't know how or where. I guess just being yucky isn't an ethics violation in and of itself.
I almost want to wash my hands after viewing Liker's "pay me" website. He'll probably scam money for future "clients."