I get it that the political insults, etc. are tiresome and it’s the blood owners right to monitor their own blog. But I wish we could learn and have intelligent discussions WITHOUT politics about all the stuff going on with Trump. Like: Why can’t he appeal a scheduling order? Can he pay for Giuliani who seems to have just lost a defamation case? What interests me the most – how does a firm handle 12 million pages of discovery? Surely there is software or something.
Can’t appeal a scheduling order because only a final judgment and other specific orders are subject to interlocutory appeals. A writ can be filed but not likely to go anywhere. There are law firms dedicated to managing voluminous discovery through the use of coding software. Done all the time.
Frankly I'd be happy with the blog masters deleting questions with obvious answers found easily by typing those "questions" that we all know you know the answers to already into the little search box provided by google instead of here.
Removals of criminal cases aren't very common. Think about cases where a state is trying to criminalize a federal officer or employee carrying out the lawful functions of the office or employment. It's about ensuring a federal forum consistent with the Constitution's supremacy clause and to prevent states from overreaching.
The federal statute was adopted during the civil rights era because state law enforcement was going after federal officers for enforcing the civil rights laws.
I really appreciate these legal discussions. Politics aside, these Trump cases are legally interesting. Like Georgia's speedy trial law. What is a judicial term?
"Any defendant against whom a true bill of indictment or an accusation is filed with the clerk for an offense not affecting the defendant's life may enter a demand for speedy trial at the court term at which the indictment or accusation is filed or at the next succeeding regular court term thereafter;"
About the OP who says just Google it.
Yeah, sure. a reliable source. It's on the internet so it must be factual.
About the OP asking about voluminous discovery. Yes, there are firms that specialize in this work, often offshore in India or the Philippines. There are some US hires for document review, but the pay is something like $25/hr.
Can the courts take into consideration that Trump has so many cases? In other words, without mentioning one's feelings about Trump, it doesn't seem fair to me that he (or any defendant) has to defend on so many fronts. I would feel the same about an alleged killer in a state. Let him defend himself one by one as piling-on seems to give an advantage to the government that is unfair.
Maybe don't (allegedly) commit so many crimes in so many jurisdictions? The courts can take into consideration the various trials he is facing. I would expect the courts will coordinate trial calendars to some extent, to prevent Trump from having to be present in two different jurisdictions at the same time for different matters.
That said, any defendant charged with crimes in multiple jurisdictions would face similar concerns. In this respect, the "piling on" is not unique and is working as designed. That a defendant doesn't like it, well that's not a legitimate concern.
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August 30, 2023 4:47 pm
I'm interested in the question about how best to handle massive amounts of documentation/ESI. What is the best software? Relativity?
Yes, I would do that with Relativity (Holo), with Holo hosting the data and providing me with a license to use Relativity, but I/counsel still must search, review, classify the ESI. Which software is works best for counsel?
We had a massive document case in the FPD office (this was a while ago) and there was this consulting firm that hired a bunch of young lawyers to code the documents with key issues. (you need to know something about your case first)) and they sat all day in LA at computer screens coding. When you have over a million documents (not pages), you have to concede that you can't read every page and just do a good job of training the coders.
I would suggest that if this is a one off,,,, hiring an ESI firm is an excellent idea. Relativity/Holo is a really powerful and excellent program. However it is not terribly intuitive in my opinion, a bit clunky, and also expensive for licensing. Really good for having a common platform with clients though for big time file transfers.
11:52/1:38 I agree that 10:04 was not being a jerk and was just giving very sound advice regarding how to handle ESI. I remember when I was starting practicing and old-timers warned me about the book salesmen and that they were very good at selling things that you really did not need. Same thing became true of legal research platform salespersons. The best software to buy is the "software" that will allow you to work seamlessly with an experienced ESI provider rather than buying random software.
10:04 is spot on. Third party contractor is the way to go. Trust me, you do not want to go this alone, unless you are in a big firm, and even they third party it out.
This is 1004. You are being a jerk because the advice is as follows: ESI software companies love to find big cases and then sell their ESI software to all of the firms in the case and convince firms that they can run it themselves. Experience will tell you that hiring a legitimate ESI firm to manage the documents for you and service your firm is better than buying any of the software and thinking you can run it yourself.
People are being overly sensitive. I found 10:04's response informative and phrased in a mildly entertaining fashion. Simply shorthand for the poster's opinion that it would be a nightmare they would never attempt to handle personally and instead of using any software, would just hire a vendor. Nothing at all jerk-ish about it.
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August 31, 2023 3:25 pm
If the lounge is in a county that permits prostitution, will they be allowed to have working girls? That could be profitable, especially if the lounge is close to the Utah or California border.
I get it that the political insults, etc. are tiresome and it’s the blood owners right to monitor their own blog. But I wish we could learn and have intelligent discussions WITHOUT politics about all the stuff going on with Trump. Like: Why can’t he appeal a scheduling order? Can he pay for Giuliani who seems to have just lost a defamation case? What interests me the most – how does a firm handle 12 million pages of discovery? Surely there is software or something.
9:38 again. This ties into yesterdays comments. How am I supposed to learn this stuff without asking?
Can’t appeal a scheduling order because only a final judgment and other specific orders are subject to interlocutory appeals. A writ can be filed but not likely to go anywhere. There are law firms dedicated to managing voluminous discovery through the use of coding software. Done all the time.
Thanks 9:52
Maybe this is my own myopic view, but I had never even heard of removing a State Criminal Case to Federal Court. VERY interesting.
Admittedly, I don’t practice in criminal law but I have never heard of it either. Does it happen often?
Frankly I'd be happy with the blog masters deleting questions with obvious answers found easily by typing those "questions" that we all know you know the answers to already into the little search box provided by google instead of here.
Frankly I would he happy if you would kindly piss right off.
Right back atcha Sparky.
Removal of state criminal prosecutions to federal court is governed by 28 U.S.C. 1442 & 1455. The grounds for removal are set out in section 1442 and the procedure on removal is set out in section 1455.
Removals of criminal cases aren't very common. Think about cases where a state is trying to criminalize a federal officer or employee carrying out the lawful functions of the office or employment. It's about ensuring a federal forum consistent with the Constitution's supremacy clause and to prevent states from overreaching.
10:20 you ignorant, ignorant person. I can google something but it comes back devoid of the insights that my colleagues have. Fn buzz kill
The federal statute was adopted during the civil rights era because state law enforcement was going after federal officers for enforcing the civil rights laws.
I really appreciate these legal discussions. Politics aside, these Trump cases are legally interesting. Like Georgia's speedy trial law. What is a judicial term?
"Any defendant against whom a true bill of indictment or an accusation is filed with the clerk for an offense not affecting the defendant's life may enter a demand for speedy trial at the court term at which the indictment or accusation is filed or at the next succeeding regular court term thereafter;"
https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2022/title-15/chapter-6/article-1/section-15-6-3/
About the OP who says just Google it.
Yeah, sure. a reliable source. It's on the internet so it must be factual.
About the OP asking about voluminous discovery. Yes, there are firms that specialize in this work, often offshore in India or the Philippines. There are some US hires for document review, but the pay is something like $25/hr.
Discriminate your sources. Surely 12:04 can evaluate a source for credibility.
I just want to say this has been educational and I like that we can all discuss stuff without the insulting politics.
Can the courts take into consideration that Trump has so many cases? In other words, without mentioning one's feelings about Trump, it doesn't seem fair to me that he (or any defendant) has to defend on so many fronts. I would feel the same about an alleged killer in a state. Let him defend himself one by one as piling-on seems to give an advantage to the government that is unfair.
Maybe don't (allegedly) commit so many crimes in so many jurisdictions? The courts can take into consideration the various trials he is facing. I would expect the courts will coordinate trial calendars to some extent, to prevent Trump from having to be present in two different jurisdictions at the same time for different matters.
That said, any defendant charged with crimes in multiple jurisdictions would face similar concerns. In this respect, the "piling on" is not unique and is working as designed. That a defendant doesn't like it, well that's not a legitimate concern.
I'm interested in the question about how best to handle massive amounts of documentation/ESI. What is the best software? Relativity?
Best software is hire an ESI firm to do it all for you.
Yes, I would do that with Relativity (Holo), with Holo hosting the data and providing me with a license to use Relativity, but I/counsel still must search, review, classify the ESI. Which software is works best for counsel?
We had a massive document case in the FPD office (this was a while ago) and there was this consulting firm that hired a bunch of young lawyers to code the documents with key issues. (you need to know something about your case first)) and they sat all day in LA at computer screens coding. When you have over a million documents (not pages), you have to concede that you can't read every page and just do a good job of training the coders.
10:04 – why be a jerk? 9:47 asked a valid question.
I didn't think that 1004 was being a jerk. Just making a suggestion based on what sounds like personal experience.
I would suggest that if this is a one off,,,, hiring an ESI firm is an excellent idea. Relativity/Holo is a really powerful and excellent program. However it is not terribly intuitive in my opinion, a bit clunky, and also expensive for licensing. Really good for having a common platform with clients though for big time file transfers.
11:52/1:38 I agree that 10:04 was not being a jerk and was just giving very sound advice regarding how to handle ESI. I remember when I was starting practicing and old-timers warned me about the book salesmen and that they were very good at selling things that you really did not need. Same thing became true of legal research platform salespersons. The best software to buy is the "software" that will allow you to work seamlessly with an experienced ESI provider rather than buying random software.
10:04 is spot on. Third party contractor is the way to go. Trust me, you do not want to go this alone, unless you are in a big firm, and even they third party it out.
1004 was being a jerk.
Or you are an over-sensitive snowflake.
This is 1004. You are being a jerk because the advice is as follows: ESI software companies love to find big cases and then sell their ESI software to all of the firms in the case and convince firms that they can run it themselves. Experience will tell you that hiring a legitimate ESI firm to manage the documents for you and service your firm is better than buying any of the software and thinking you can run it yourself.
10:04: Those who know get you and understand. Your advice is 100%
OK I admit calling 1:38 a jerk was pretty reciprocally jerkish. Sorry about that. Consider it retracted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZLpZtcMAoU
People are being overly sensitive. I found 10:04's response informative and phrased in a mildly entertaining fashion. Simply shorthand for the poster's opinion that it would be a nightmare they would never attempt to handle personally and instead of using any software, would just hire a vendor. Nothing at all jerk-ish about it.
If the lounge is in a county that permits prostitution, will they be allowed to have working girls? That could be profitable, especially if the lounge is close to the Utah or California border.
Mesquite will be booming!
@ 8:42. Mesquite is in Clark County.