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Happy Nevada Day, observed! Are you taking the day off to celebrate? Any Nevada Day traditions for your firm? What do you love about living and practicing in the great state of Nevada?
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Unrelated – There was a snafu on the Texas bar website yesterday and those who took the bar exam couldn't login to see their results. Of course, panic ensued. TX put out a publicly available list in PDF form. Holy crap they have a lot of new attorneys each year. For the July 2019 bar, they added ~1,986 newly licensed attorneys (well – more specifically, 1,986 people passed and I'm assuming they'll all become licensed.)
Link to list: http://www.txcourts.gov/media/1445018/complete-pass-list-for-web.pdf
It's one page of 21 (first page), one page of 5 (last page) and 28 pages of 70 names, total 1,986.
@9:12a here – AND…that doesn't include the 639 that passed in February 2019. Total 2,625 newly licensed attorneys just in 2019 in Texas.
What is the job market like in Texas with these numbers? My understanding that is pretty good. Years ago even during the Great Recession (2008 to 2014) it was quite good. Had lots of opportunities to work and live in various Cities in Texas but toughed it out in Vegas. At one time you could waive into the bar after 5 years of experience. Does anyone have any knowledge or input of the legal landscape/market.
The Austin market is hot!
Okay, let's not get bogged down on numbers without context. Texas has 28.7 million people. According to a 2018 report by State Bar of Texas Dept. of Research and Analysis, there were 91,244 attorneys in Texas in 2018. So an increase of 2,625 is less than 3%. Basically, around 1 attorney for 315 people. Nevada's numbers are harder to suss out, because we don't have a Dept. of Research and Analysis. We have a Dept. of Travel for Annual Parties and Overpriced CLEs.
Toughed it out in Vegas? Why? I get that Vegas has historically been a decent place to work and practice law; but who would stay and live here if he or she had other options?
I've been here 24 long years, have about 4-5 more years to work, and can't leave just yet But as soon as our last kid is done with college, we are so out of this shithole it'll look like the Roadrunner leaving Wile E. Coyote in the dust. Vegas has been a great place to work, but it's been a lousy place to live.
10:57 AM–Toughed it out in Vegas. Sorry you hate Vegas. Where will you go when done. Vegas is/was a great place to live especially during the Great Recession but much harder to make a living. Most of the good positions were in Dallas area and Houston. Not a fan of either.
I've lived in four states. I love it here, it is by far my favorite place that I've lived. No humidity. Great weather 8.5 months of the year. No income tax. Good restaurants. Always fun stuff to do. Great outdoors activities both locally and within a days drive. Close to the national parks in Utah, close to the beach in Southern California. Would much rather live here than any neighboring state.
In reply to @10:50a – At a rate of 1 attorney per 315 people, with Nevada's population estimated at 3.09M, we'd need 9,809 attorneys to hit that number. Nevada's numbers for last year's annual report lists 9,056 active and 2,462 inactive attorneys so if we added ~300 attorneys last year (estimate) we'd be at 9,356 active attorneys, or 1 per 330 people.
According to the BEA, Nevada's GDP in 2018 for private industries was 147,763,300,000 (147.76B) with an estimated population in 2019 of 3.09M (one year off I know), for an avg of 47,819.84 per person/year.
Texas's GDP in 2018 for private industries was 1,591,095,200,000 (1.59T) with a 2018 population of 28.7M people, for an avg of 55,438.86 per person/year. The numbers per person aren't astronomically different but the potential is substantially larger with that large of a pie.
Texas doesn't have an income tax either, it's a red state (with a blue island smack dab in the middle = Austin), the government generated GDP portion being $184.7B, by itself exceeds Nevada's combined government + private GDP of 165.8B by itself (18.1B is government generated GDP in NV).
The few times I've been to Houston and Dallas I've cringed at the quantity of traffic in the morning and evening though, so one would seem to need to live near one's office and/or downtown if one did not want to spend 2 hours a day commuting.
Maybe its time to learn energy law and move……
@ 11:27 "vEGAS WAS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE ESPECIALLY DURING THE GREAT RECESSION???" Which Vegas did you live in? There was no worse place than VEgas during the Great REcession.
@12:07 – I'm not 11:27, but I can tell you that I did consumer bankruptcy and the great recession was freaking awesome in terms of number of cases I did 2007-2009.
@10:57 am. If Vegas is such a shithole to you, why did you stay and raise your family here? Or were at the office working the whole time?