My favorite is C to Db. My least favorite is probably B#-C#.
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August 7, 2025 11:09 am
Is the Ballou hearing on Zoom?
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August 7, 2025 12:11 pm
Why is the Nevada Supreme Court bothering to have oral arguments in the fake electors case? The decision will be that, based on U.S. Supreme Court precedent, the fake electors were actually real electors because they were working on behalf of God-King Donald J. Trump, Supreme Leader and Walking Deity. In fact, the so-called unselect “REAL” electors were the ones who really committed crimes on behalf of the Deep State, who was using its Jewish Space Lasers (TM) to make vaccines for interracial trans athletes. Further, not only did those trans athletes write the Epstein List, the record establishes that their interracial status was only made possible via Loving v. Virginia, which is hereby abrogated, rendering their birthright citizenship invalid. Parties to be deported halfway to El Salvador and ejected over the Gulf O’Merica. Request for attorneys fees granted, to be paid for from the Chinese Tariff Fund.
@12:11
I have seen you motions, which are equally fanciful with made up facts.
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August 7, 2025 1:11 pm
Michele and Sigal, stop it.
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August 7, 2025 2:51 pm
I don’t understand the fake electors case, at all. To me, what the electors did (or tried to do) is the equivalent of flat earthers or moon landing deniers doing whatever it is they do. I mean, did anyone even remotely possibly believe these electors? It’s not like it was disputed (other than by maybe the fake electors) that Biden won NV. What am I missing here?
It was part of the president’s plan to steal the election — submit the fake certificates to the senate, have Pence declare there was a conflict in the votes, and then have the house vote (1 vote per state) for the new president, which Trump would win.
Look up the Cheesebro and Eastman (Trump’s lawyers) memos. They lay out the whole scheme to try and steal the election. They weren’t just rogue random people doing this. It was a coordinated plan from the top.
AI is ridiculous – at best it is a novelty and its serious or applied usage in our field should be mocked. I understand as much as anyone else here that there is not enough time in the day to review lengthy cases and several decades worth of decisions to arrive at a solid point – but that’s kind of your job – know the law, apply the law. It is bonkers to me that there are people who can’t read a statute and make an argument about it in this field and instead need to have a robot write their stuff for them. And these motions these guys get caught on are never anything serious like a MSJ or a Bad Acts motion in crim law or something it’s like basic stuff that would realistically take an hour for a law clerk to write. Stop running from hard work, do your job.
This is a dumb take that will leave you in the dust, boomer. AI is a great tool, but the user has to be competent and understand its limits. AI cannot reliably quote documents or cite legal authorities. AI can help put together first drafts, like a law clerk, that an attorney can go through to revise and edit. AI can help revise for clarity. Go ahead and use a broad generalization here, keep wet ink signing your non-native PDF filings and using your @aol.com email address for your practice.
“Can’t Research”?? What is “research”? You search case law for similar or applicable rulings to your current case. Ok boomer. Do you understand what “AI” actually does? One presents a query and the “AI” searches through a database for relevant cases. Mandatory retirement age of 60 would help this profession a lot.
Lawyers like 8:35 sign motions and briefs with hallucinated cases.
Do YOU know what AI does under the hood? It has no concept of step-by-step thinking. It breaks down your query into parts and assigns weight to what it perceives you to be looking for and attempts to provide an answer that you will like.
Note there is a HUGE difference between “getting you the correct answer” and “getting you an answer you will like.”
That’s why ChatGPT routinely makes up cases to give you the exact holding you are looking for. That’s why WestLaw and Lexis AI routinely present the analysis a court rejects as the holding that you are looking for. AI can’t tell the difference between good law and bad law and not law.
By the way, if AI does all your research and writing, what do you even do as a lawyer? Sounds like AI is the lawyer and 8:35 is the AI’s assistant.
Getting tired of the boomer put downs. Young pups don’t know much other than how to walk around like they are a gift to everything they come into contact with.
Not OP and I don’t necessarily have a problem with “boomers” in the profession. But honestly, when I see 70+ year olds still practicing law and working 40+ hours a week, I feel bad for them.
I don’t disagree with that either. But some people just don’t know what to do with themselves. I got out of the full time rat race at 63.5 cuz I was getting real close to telling some scum bag lawyers, incompetent- obviously biased judges off. Better to eat 1.5 years of health insurance then get hauled before the bar for being unprofessional. Found out it’s hard to fill 8-10 hours a day.
Age bring experience, wisdom, temperament and skill…. This is why we “practice” law. Its a muscle you have to exercise over time to get better and stronger. Lots of older attorneys see the practice of law as their life fulfillment, because it is not a 9-5 job that so many younger folks want, it is a calling, a profession and a mission. it gives them purpose and they do not want to retire and play golf or sit around their house every day.
First to beat the Latin dude!
secondus minimus
My favorite is C to Db. My least favorite is probably B#-C#.
Is the Ballou hearing on Zoom?
Why is the Nevada Supreme Court bothering to have oral arguments in the fake electors case? The decision will be that, based on U.S. Supreme Court precedent, the fake electors were actually real electors because they were working on behalf of God-King Donald J. Trump, Supreme Leader and Walking Deity. In fact, the so-called unselect “REAL” electors were the ones who really committed crimes on behalf of the Deep State, who was using its Jewish Space Lasers (TM) to make vaccines for interracial trans athletes. Further, not only did those trans athletes write the Epstein List, the record establishes that their interracial status was only made possible via Loving v. Virginia, which is hereby abrogated, rendering their birthright citizenship invalid. Parties to be deported halfway to El Salvador and ejected over the Gulf O’Merica. Request for attorneys fees granted, to be paid for from the Chinese Tariff Fund.
Are you being sarcastic?
Cry harder, sis.
You forgot to include the Pizza Gate pedophile ring in there
This is not nearly as funny as you thought it was while you laughed while typing it.
You just sound like a bitter leftist cuck.
Cry harder, sis.
It’s obvious that the person was not trying to be funny. There is nothing at all funny about this.
Other than the obvious sarcasm, this could be an actual POTUS tweet. Nothing is based on any sort of logical reality anymore.
Enjoy the next 3.5 years.
@12:11
I have seen you motions, which are equally fanciful with made up facts.
Michele and Sigal, stop it.
I don’t understand the fake electors case, at all. To me, what the electors did (or tried to do) is the equivalent of flat earthers or moon landing deniers doing whatever it is they do. I mean, did anyone even remotely possibly believe these electors? It’s not like it was disputed (other than by maybe the fake electors) that Biden won NV. What am I missing here?
It was part of the president’s plan to steal the election — submit the fake certificates to the senate, have Pence declare there was a conflict in the votes, and then have the house vote (1 vote per state) for the new president, which Trump would win.
Look up the Cheesebro and Eastman (Trump’s lawyers) memos. They lay out the whole scheme to try and steal the election. They weren’t just rogue random people doing this. It was a coordinated plan from the top.
This is why he was indicted in DC.
Good grief
https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2025/08/07/reno-judge-suspects-hallucinated-ai-quotes-used-in-uprise-lawsuit/85564236007/
AI is ridiculous – at best it is a novelty and its serious or applied usage in our field should be mocked. I understand as much as anyone else here that there is not enough time in the day to review lengthy cases and several decades worth of decisions to arrive at a solid point – but that’s kind of your job – know the law, apply the law. It is bonkers to me that there are people who can’t read a statute and make an argument about it in this field and instead need to have a robot write their stuff for them. And these motions these guys get caught on are never anything serious like a MSJ or a Bad Acts motion in crim law or something it’s like basic stuff that would realistically take an hour for a law clerk to write. Stop running from hard work, do your job.
I wonder if they had a law clerk do it and then signed off without checking.
This is a dumb take that will leave you in the dust, boomer. AI is a great tool, but the user has to be competent and understand its limits. AI cannot reliably quote documents or cite legal authorities. AI can help put together first drafts, like a law clerk, that an attorney can go through to revise and edit. AI can help revise for clarity. Go ahead and use a broad generalization here, keep wet ink signing your non-native PDF filings and using your @aol.com email address for your practice.
AI can write and edit writing, but it can’t research and it DEFINITELY can’t analyze.
“Can’t Research”?? What is “research”? You search case law for similar or applicable rulings to your current case. Ok boomer. Do you understand what “AI” actually does? One presents a query and the “AI” searches through a database for relevant cases. Mandatory retirement age of 60 would help this profession a lot.
Yeah sure legal research, let me just go to the law library crack open some books that haven’t likely been pulled from their shelves in decades.
Heard of westlaw, Lexi’s, fast case, etc. typical young pups nonsensical take ignoring the facts.
Oh, you mean put relevant search terms into westlaw or lexis and analyze the results.
Lawyers like 8:35 sign motions and briefs with hallucinated cases.
Do YOU know what AI does under the hood? It has no concept of step-by-step thinking. It breaks down your query into parts and assigns weight to what it perceives you to be looking for and attempts to provide an answer that you will like.
Note there is a HUGE difference between “getting you the correct answer” and “getting you an answer you will like.”
That’s why ChatGPT routinely makes up cases to give you the exact holding you are looking for. That’s why WestLaw and Lexis AI routinely present the analysis a court rejects as the holding that you are looking for. AI can’t tell the difference between good law and bad law and not law.
By the way, if AI does all your research and writing, what do you even do as a lawyer? Sounds like AI is the lawyer and 8:35 is the AI’s assistant.
Getting tired of the boomer put downs. Young pups don’t know much other than how to walk around like they are a gift to everything they come into contact with.
Not OP and I don’t necessarily have a problem with “boomers” in the profession. But honestly, when I see 70+ year olds still practicing law and working 40+ hours a week, I feel bad for them.
I don’t disagree with that either. But some people just don’t know what to do with themselves. I got out of the full time rat race at 63.5 cuz I was getting real close to telling some scum bag lawyers, incompetent- obviously biased judges off. Better to eat 1.5 years of health insurance then get hauled before the bar for being unprofessional. Found out it’s hard to fill 8-10 hours a day.
Age bring experience, wisdom, temperament and skill…. This is why we “practice” law. Its a muscle you have to exercise over time to get better and stronger. Lots of older attorneys see the practice of law as their life fulfillment, because it is not a 9-5 job that so many younger folks want, it is a calling, a profession and a mission. it gives them purpose and they do not want to retire and play golf or sit around their house every day.