Do Not Embarrass The Future

  • Law

  • The U.S. Supreme Court issued four new decisions today, including one narrow holding that police need a warrant to get location information from cell phone tower sites. [SCOTUSblog]
  • Yesterday the same court issued a decision that will allow states to collect sales tax from more online retailers–meaning Nevada could have $30 million more in tax revenue per year. [TNI]
  • Black Knight Sports and Entertainment LLC dba Vegas Golden Knights, represented by Dan Polsenberg, has sued StubHub Inc. for $1.4 million in profits from playoff tickets that StubHub has yet to pay the Golden Knights. (Case No. A-18-776361-B.)  For some mysterious reason, the Complaint was filed under seal. Anyone have any other details? 
  • With the 4th of July coming up, Clark County and Metro want you to report illegal fireworks at ispyfireworks.com. [RJ]
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June 22, 2018 3:34 pm

So with Stan gone, who is applying for the Bar Counsel position? Janeen Isaacson is Acting Bar Counsel. As many of you know, David Clark was promoted from within. Before David was pushed out, they brought Brian Kunzi in (former Nye County DA) to be the Bar Counsel in Waiting. When David was pushed out, Brian was told he was getting the gig. Then Brian got pushed down so Stan could come in (and then Brian took the easy way out and went to Admissions). So who is it going to be now?

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June 22, 2018 4:48 pm
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Fortunately I've never had to deal with Janeen in her current job, so I can't speak to that, but she was always decent to work with when she was in private practice.

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June 22, 2018 4:52 pm
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Ditto

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June 22, 2018 5:23 pm
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Janeen is a professional, with compassion.

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June 22, 2018 5:40 pm
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I am very pro-Janeen with one caveat. Janeen marched as Stan told her to march and did some very Stan-things during his tenure, took some positions and did some actions which demonstrated that she wanted to be Stan's right hand and successor. She is a good person who may have really changed within the office. Frankly I am hoping that she does NOT get Bar Counsel and has to leave and save whatever is left of her soul after the last 3 years.

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June 22, 2018 7:35 pm
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I heard that the BOG delegated complete hiring and firing authority of Bar Counsel to the Executive Director. Why would they do that?

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June 22, 2018 8:26 pm
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Wow! Well Kim Furself will abuse that for all it is worth.

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June 22, 2018 9:36 pm
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That means it will be a total cluster.

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June 22, 2018 4:46 pm

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June 22, 2018 5:51 pm

Any good gossip from last night's NJA gala?

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June 22, 2018 6:48 pm
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Some photos on Twitter, looked fancy

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June 22, 2018 9:19 pm

When are the national raises going to hit the Vegas market, at least for the large regional firms?

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June 22, 2018 9:29 pm
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Seriously? Get back to billing, no one cares about your desire for a raise simply because you work at a large firm. Go get some clients – then you'll get a raise.

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June 22, 2018 9:32 pm
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Akerman is hiring.

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June 22, 2018 9:46 pm
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The national raises brought top-tier firms up to $190k. What is top of the market here? $120k?

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June 22, 2018 10:13 pm
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No way any of the Nevada firms is going to match the national raises. You can't match if you are not charging the same rates as those firms.

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June 22, 2018 10:43 pm
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Obviously not. That being said, market here hasn't really changed in a decade, while major markets have increased from $160k to $190k. We have a hard time recruiting law students with the resumes to work in major markets, and each salary increase in those markets will only exacerbate that problem.

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June 22, 2018 10:49 pm
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It always amazes me that people believe that they are going to get BIGLAW Major Market Money here. Stop it. Just stop it. The most valuable Associate in town is worth what the top firm is willing to pay that Associate. If you want BIGLAW Major Market, go there.

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June 22, 2018 11:10 pm
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Not only that, but a client paying LA or SF rates wants a lawyer who went to Stanford/Cal/UCLA/USC. So, big firms need to pay big money to attract that talent. In Vegas? Even at Snell, LRRC, BHFS etc., their clients don't demand that kind of "pedigree." They are happy getting a summa Boyd grad and the pay is commensurate.

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June 22, 2018 11:17 pm
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There are far more $300-600 an hour attorneys in this town than there is $300-600 an hour legal work.

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June 22, 2018 11:25 pm
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I don't read the original comment as someone expecting NY salaries in LV. But its no secret that NY, DC and LA lead the market on associate salaries. When they move them up, it causes changes in the marketplace, and sometimes they are even felt as far away as Las Vegas. So I don't think its stupid to ask if/when those changes might have an impact, however small, in Las Vegas.

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June 22, 2018 11:46 pm
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This market isn't immune to raises. National firms set higher salaries due in part to cost a living adjustment. Las Vegas hasn't had those in some years. So it seems weird more firms haven't increased associate salaries.

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June 23, 2018 12:06 am
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Supply and demand. Those firms can fill its hiring needs without raising salaries. Where else can Boyd grads get jobs?

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June 25, 2018 3:08 pm
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25 years out and I can recall being asked where I went to law school 3 times. Each time it was well after I had been retained. If you keep thinking where you went to school after your first year means anything, you are delusional.

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June 25, 2018 5:31 pm
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I think bad law schools stop hurting a few years out, but good law schools do not stop helping. I am several years out and I still regularly get referrals just by virtue of where I went to law school. My law school has come up probably three times a month more often than not.

I also think it misses the point. It is not just signaling to potential clients. Success in sophisticated practices requires a minimum intellectual threshold, and the combination of law school and class rank is the best proxy by which firms can measure law students. Anecdotally, I know some very good lawyers who did very well at mediocre schools, and some very good lawyers who did average to below average at very good schools. I do not know lawyers doing high-level work in complicated practice areas who did average or worse at middling or worse law schools. School and rank are obviously not perfect proxies, but they are good enough where I will continue to value students from the top of the class at Boyd and Loyola and USD and the middle of the class at UCLA and USC and anywhere in the class at Stanford or Harvard.

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June 25, 2018 5:49 pm
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Cohen went to Cooley and he represents the President and Sean Hannity.

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June 25, 2018 6:42 pm
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8:08 has apparently never worked at a BigLaw firm offering market salary. At the firms I've worked at that offered the top market salary to first years, it was clear that where you went to school mattered. All of the associates went to a top 30 school. Also, why would the interviewer ask where you went to law school if they have your resume showing where you went?

All of this misses the point. What is the incentive for any firms to raise salaries right now? There's a glut of attorneys looking for jobs. If an attorney from Boyd doesn't want to take a job because of low pay, an attorney from Cooley will. Surely, a Cooley grad is just as good as a Boyd grad or even a Harvard grad (if 8:08 is right).