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Over in Family Court Department F we have Denise Gentile challenging Judge William “Bill” Gonzalez. More info at Vote411.
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- Posted on 11 years ago
Wow, that's a great photo of Denise on her website! Too bad she looks nothing like that in person.
Wow, those are great credentials and experiences on Denise's website. Too bad her opponent is so grossly unqualified for such a position.
You know who else looks nothing like the picture? The lady running in Dept. 8. Add 30 years and 30 pounds. False advertising. You don't see Doug Smith altering his photo.
Who should have altered their pic? Gonzalez and Bare. The Vampire Bros!
Oink….oink….
When was the last time a blonde woman lost a judicial election (when not running against another blonde woman)?
…says the jealous, balding fat man who (I'm guessing, because you just sound like this kind of guy) routinely talks down to his female colleagues…
Good point. If not for blonde hair and a big rack, Miley never becomes a judge.
Come, on now, Friedberg. Show us your true colors.
Blonde hair / big rack obviously is a sure way to win. Halverson getting elected is proof of that.
Halverson never put her pictures on her signs. RIP
It is well known that female voters will often vote straight party ticket for politicos and any female name for judges. Since women love to have their "voices" heard, they vote more than men. So, yes, being female is key for getting elected. Add to this some breasts and a nice smile, and many clueless males will vote — Miley, Gentile, etc. As for me, I only vote for men unless it is a woman I know and respect, like Cadish or Gonzalez.
But it's the women who are the problem here. Not you. Got it.
I'm all for a blonde with a nice rack, but…Exhibit A, Sexism. A judicial race between two men would never devolve into a discussion about their peckers. Denise has the race on the merits, but hey, we can discuss her good looks later. Move along.
It would if you could see how big the peckers were under the clothes.
Off Topic and way left field…
Has anyone had any interaction with the Character and Fitness Committee? There is not much literature available to help one understand their process. Specifically, has anyone had a character and fitness hold prior to being notified about the results of the exam? Any insight would be helpful.
Asking for a friend?
I have some experience with that. One of the main considerations about whether the "hold" gets turned into a "denial" of the ability to obtain a law license is whether you are blonde with a big rack.
As to 3:13, it is my understanding that if there is a "hold" on someone's bar results until that applicant meets with the Character and Fitness Board, that is good news–it means the applicant passed the bar exam. But the applicant does have to meet with the Board, or a representative, to discuss whatever the issues of concern are–e.g. some old arrest, some bar discipline in another state, etc. Usually, the matter ends satisfactorily because if the issues in question were serious enough, the applicant never would have been permitted to sit for the exam in the first place(providing the items were properly disclosed in the bar application in response to questions which directly inquired about such matters).
So, whether this is you or someone else, the applicant has apparently passed the exam. If you fail the exam, they don't bother having you meet with the Board. They simply fail you for not reaching the cut off score. At least that's how I believe the process operates.
What do you mean by C&F hold? Do you mean that you have already been told that you failed C&F? As far as I understand, you'd have to go through both an informal and formal hearing before it was officially determined that you failed C&F. But, if you are going to have an informal hearing, then your membership into the bar will be postponed until that hearing occurs and you are given the thumbs up from the committee, assuming you pass the exam.
Personally, I think it is okay news to hear about your hearing, as I don't believe they conduct hearings for individuals who they know failed the exam. Unless of course you are completely taken aback by finding out you may have C&F issues, as most people who have C&F issues know the committee will want to talk to them before they ever get asked to come in. If you never expected to get called in, and now have been, you need to start preparing for what could come up at the hearing. If that is the case and you do get notice of an informal hearing, pay attention to who is listed as attendees because it will give you some insight into what they want to talk to you about.
Thank you for your feedback 3:54 and 3:58. It is greatly appreciated.
Would you recommend retaining an attorney at the informal hearing level?
Bill Terry is the man to call on this.
Agreed. He is the best for matters of this sort. And yes, the applicant passed the actual exam. if you fail, they don't bother with procedures of this sort as there is completely no need to do so.
It was my experience that there was very little communication from the Bar about the C&F process. In fact, I received nothing from the Bar until about ten days after all other applicants learned that they passed or failed. My admission was sightly delayed (missing all swearing in ceremonies) and I had to pay $250 (or so) only to learn after much anxiety that someone else's criminal record made it into my file. No apology. No refund. My subsequent dealings with the Bar have been equally frustrating.
We are shooting in the dark here without knowing the nature of the hold. Is it something that can be be described in general terms for analysis or comment? It can be something which needs to be explained or clarified or a serious obstacle that needs to be addressed at a hearing. The Character and Fitness Committee is comprised of volunteers and moves very slowly like the Disciplinary Committee.
Yeah. We gots to know more. Sex with a goat – you're out. Sex with a kid – you're out (and should be shot). Sex with your high school teacher – you might be okay.
Grand theft auto / more serious drug offenses – you may have to wait while the C&F committee expects you to demonstrate a pattern of a screw-up free life.
Car burglary and gang offenses, particularly as a youth – you have a shot (see, e.g. Lucy Flores).
Don't represent yourself in this situation. There are others besides Bill Terry ($$$$). Frank Cremen and Make Warhola among others. You just need someone who can speak to the Committee on your behalf.
Bill Terry may be worth it if serious.
What about a C&F informal meeting regarding a past BK? Anything in particular to expect?
They will want to know why you filed, esentially make sure you're not bad with money (since you will be holding a lot of money in trust for your clients). Was it overwhelming hospital bills due to a catastrophic injury, or did you live a lavish lifestyle you couldn't afford, or anything in between.
Having been there before, I don't think an attorney is necessary at the informal hearing. It is truly informal and bringing an attorney could potentially raise the suspicion level of the committee members interviewing you. I believe that being candid and open with the few people there is all you need to do to get the pass. Unless you actually don't have the C&F needed to practice law, in which case perhaps you should probably speak with an attorney, but I still don't think they should come to the informal hearing. C&F is about who you are at this time, not who you were or what you've done, so go into it with that mindset and show the committee you are fit to practice now regardless of what they want to talk to you about regarding your past. Advocate for yourself to the committee and quash any doubt or belief they have that you may be unfit. But if you get a formal hearing definitely bring a lawyer.
This was seemingly forever ago, but I was informed before the bar exam that I had to come in for the C&F committee to explain my prior debts from about 7-8 years ago before taking the bar exam, and what caused it (job losses leading to deciding to change careers btw.) After meeting with them, they released the hold and let me take the exam. I passed, then they put me on a 'probationary license' period after which they wanted me to come back and prove I had a job, was paying my bills and student loans. I did, they released the probation and all is well.
If yours is because of a bankruptcy, then @7:16pm says it best – if it wasn't because of your intentional bad money management and was because of a job loss, home foreclosure due to job loss, major hospital stay or large medical bills from an accident; then you should be fine.
Good luck!