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- Cleanup begins after F1, likely to last 6-8 weeks. What did you think of the race? [8NewsNow; RJ]
- Dimopolous Injury Law filed a class-action lawsuit against F1 organizers over cancelled practice race in Las Vegas. [8NewsNow; KTNV]
- Nevada laws increasing cost of pet care, exacerbating veterinary shortage, say experts. [Nevada Current]
- What else is happening out there today?
Class action is dumb. The Legal Elite ™ must be desperate for attention. Race was great, event was great. Haters gonna hate.
I can’t imagine there isn’t some sort of iron clad language for the ticket purchase permitting cancellation for these sort of unexpected shut downs.
I think it was a quick play to get on the ground floor of some sort of fraud misrep case if the race bombed. The fact the race was a success is devastating to any minimal merit the claim could have had.
The filing was/is nothing more than a way of getting media attention. the action is likely to be dismissed either at the class certification or by motion. The “Legal Elite” will have put very little work into the file but will have reaped free advertising by way of media attention.
AC Slater disagrees, will address in his next podcast on the subject.
Egg on the faces of those who thought the race would bomb. Fun stuff. Here’s to the next 9 years!
Now that the emotions have died down, can we honestly assess the gravity of the failure of justice in this case?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12771037/Derek-Chauvin-speaks-prison-new-George-Floyd-documentary-Fall-Minneapolis-trial-sham.html
You mean the injustice of a man screaming for his mother while he was murdered over a fake $20 bill? Or do you mean the injustice of the thousands of POC who were similarly murdered by the police who escaped accountability because it happened before the advent of high quality cameras on everyone’s phone?
Oh, Please! Cry me a river. The trial was railroaded from start to finish for politics. Separate from the trial is the reality that ALL of these kinds of police encounters about which you are enraged, would have turned out differently IF the detainee had only followed the instructions of the police.
Even if you do not comply with the cops, you still do not deserve to be murdered. Weird that I even have to point that out, but here we find ourselves.
What happened with the finding of the coroner who put the cause of death as drug related instead of asphyxiation?
This one? “Dr. Andrew Baker, Hennepin County’s chief medical examiner, said Floyd died after police ‘subdual, restraint and neck compression’ caused his heart and lungs to stop. He said heart disease and drug use were factors but not the ‘top line’ causes. He said Floyd had an enlarged heart that needed more oxygen than normal, as well as narrowed arteries.”
It was revealed in a deposition that the medical examiner found that Floyd died from drug use and not asphyxiation. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ex-cop-chauvin-cites-pathologists-theory-on-george-floyd-death-in-motion-to-overturn-murder-conviction/ar-AA1k3nGG
But would he have still died without the knee on his neck?
Yes
11:24 you seem to be the one who is crying a river over a guy who got a vigorous defense and lost at every stage of our judicial system.
If by “failure of justice in this case” you mean the fact that it shows that bad cops too rarely go to jail such that it is national news, yes we can discuss that. Good cops know that Derek Chauvin was a bad cop who caused the death of a guy over a fake $20 bill. The judge was a former DA employee who was appointed by Republican governor.
You can be conservative and generally Back the Blue (I am both) but recognize that the importance of generating respect for the Rule of Law comes from law enforcement following the law. No person has a duty to sit still and allow law enforcement to murder someone. “Patriotism is supporting your country all of the time, and your government when it deserves it.”- Mark Twain
You forgot the definition of murder, a crime involving intent. The only intent in this case was to keep the guy on the ground. Did he go too far? No doubt, but manslaughter at worst. “Murder” in this case is just local politics bending to the media and locals demanding a murder verdict. A modern-day urban mob version of lynching.
You forget that murder is defined by state statute and that you did not read the applicable state’s statute.
609.19 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:
(1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or
(2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit a drive-by shooting in violation of section 609.66, subdivision 1e, under circumstances other than those described in section 609.185, paragraph (a), clause (3).
§Subd. 2.Unintentional murders. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:
(1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting; or
(2) causes the death of a human being without intent to effect the death of any person, while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection and the victim is a person designated to receive protection under the order. As used in this clause, “order for protection” includes an order for protection issued under chapter 518B; a harassment restraining order issued under section 609.748; a court order setting conditions of pretrial release or conditions of a criminal sentence or juvenile court disposition; a restraining order issued in a marriage dissolution action; and any order issued by a court of another state or of the United States that is similar to any of these orders.
So show me where Chauvin did any of those things. “Intent to restrain” is not included.
The whole this is and was a fkg circus.
“(1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence”.
The video showed a felony battery which caused death. It was a really simple case once one could get past the fact that the perpetrator was in a blue shirt with a patch in his sleeve.
Wrong. Fake news.
He wasn’t killed over a 20 dollar bill but from being full of drugs and not complying.
At least you can acknowledge that he was murdered for “not complying” while a man was asphyxiating him to death. The price of struggling against four men abusing you is death.
Not murder under any rational definition.
Absent the “summer of love” hype and the BLM movement (before it was exposed as a fraud/money grift), zero chance Chauvin even gets tried. Punished by the dept. maybe. Fired even. But tried and convicted of murder. No chance.
And isn’t that the whole point, that absent BLM and the suumer of love rational people disagree over whether this was murder BUT IN THE PAST IT WOULD ALL HAVE BEEN COVERED UP.
I’m not sure this makes the point you think it makes.
Yeah I think you just put a knee on the throat of the very point that you were trying to make.
This is the quintessential “We would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for you meddling kids”
Yeah. They used to lynch people in the South, and “But tried and convicted of murder. No chance.”
That is the dumbest thing I have read all day.